TheBeaneBandit Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I don't think anyone is saying he HAS to move.....only if the chips fell a certain way then a shuffling would be on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Dion has declined rapidly. Stop the tik tok videos and get in shape… for a LT he has great ability but if he took his physique seriously he could be a stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 12 hours ago, Special K said: In one of the million mock drafts out there, (don't remember which website or news outlet it was from) the Mock had the Bills selecting Broderick Jones T Georgia. The writer went on to say that if the Bills go this route and select a LT prospect in round 1, it would allow them to slide Dion Dawkins from LT to LG: "where he would go from being an above average tackle, to being an elite guard." Does anyone agree with line of thinking, and more importantly, does anyone think this scenario could be on the Bills radar? Thoughts? I do agree with that line of thinking. I think DD would be a monster at OG... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 30 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: I don't think anyone is saying he HAS to move.....only if the chips fell a certain way then a shuffling would be on the table. Yea, if BPA in Rd 1 is an LT, you can take him and not worry about over-drafting an OG at that pick. Heck I wouldnt mind a good LT in Rd 2 either if there isnt a good one at # 27 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: Yea, if BPA in Rd 1 is an LT, you can take him and not worry about over-drafting an OG at that pick. Heck I wouldnt mind a good LT in Rd 2 either if there isnt a good one at # 27 Ya never know.... sometimes some good ones slip down a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 No way an OT better than Dion falls to 27. Even if it happened, it's still a draft pick, and you can't bank on that player outperforming a very solid vet. I would much rather see them take a G at 27 - even if it's a T who is then converted to G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 14 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Would that make Dawkins over paid as aguard? If Russ were in charge, he would make him take a pay cut and then trade him to Philadelphia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 8 hours ago, RyanC883 said: Dawkins is not to LTs what JA is to QBs. That might be true, but at this point moving Dawkins to guard is just as stupid as moving JA to TE... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 If Peter Skoronoski is there, you draft him. DD can go to LG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, artmalibu said: That might be true, but at this point moving Dawkins to guard is just as stupid as moving JA to TE... Not really, everyone knows we need help at LG. Skoronoski is one of the best LT prospects in while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Dawkins is going to RT before guard They’re not taking a top 12 left tackle and moving him to guard… not happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Dawkins would be so pissed that the late first round rookie took his spot at left tackle he wouldn’t be our left guard for very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) He has really ALWAYS looked like a guard to me. Just because a natural guard CAN play left tackle capably doesn't mean that he's not still a natural guard. Like Cordy Glenn before him, he is a natural guard that has the foot quickness and other necessary traits to be a good (not great) tackle. While it's doubtful that the Bills could get a tackle prospect as late as they pick in round 1 that would be better than Dion at LT, if they COULD....this is a move that should be considered. Edited March 10, 2023 by Logic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Logic said: He has really ALWAYS looked like a guard to me. Just because a natural guard CAN play left tackle capably doesn't mean that he's not still a natural guard. Like Cordy Glenn before him, he is a natural guard that has the foot quickness and other necessary traits to be a good (not great) tackle. While it's doubtful that the Bills could get a tackle prospect as late as they pick in round 1 that would be better than Dion at LT, if they COULD....this is a move that should be considered. Peter Skoronoski is already just as good as Dawkins IMO. If he is there at 27, I’m taking him and asking Dawkins to help the team anyways possible. He’s still getting paid high money, so he’s not going to be asked to take a pay cut. We could use his talents elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Logic said: He has really ALWAYS looked like a guard to me. Just because a natural guard CAN play left tackle capably doesn't mean that he's not still a natural guard. Like Cordy Glenn before him, he is a natural guard that has the foot quickness and other necessary traits to be a good (not great) tackle. While it's doubtful that the Bills could get a tackle prospect as late as they pick in round 1 that would be better than Dion at LT, if they COULD....this is a move that should be considered. Cordy Glenn Had a longer and better career at tackle Than guard a left tackle who is consistent and doesn’t miss games… Dawkins is absolutely in the top 12…. Is way more valuable than what he could be as a guard He would be at Right tackle well before Guard he isn’t quinton Nelson Edited March 10, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Not really, everyone knows we need help at LG. Skoronoski is one of the best LT prospects in while. So lets take solid starting LT and move him to a new position and maybe we can draft a guy to fill the void? How sure are you that the Bills could draft him? He is a top 10 on some Big Boards and we draft at what 27. What are you willing to give to move up? How sure are you that he will be better than Dion at OT? And he is a quote about this guy “He’s a Pro Bowler at guard but just an average tackle if a team keeps him there.” -- Executive for NFC team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He would be at Right tackle well before Guard You've said this a few times now. Your stance on this matter is clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just now, Logic said: You've said this a few times now. Your stance on this matter is clear. Because I don’t know how anyone thinks he would go to guard before replacing the turnstile at RT Brown would be Swing tackle way before Dawkins is just kicked inside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I can't see why he couldn't be tried out there, but he may have issues with leverage? Longer arms, a bit taller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, Logic said: He has really ALWAYS looked like a guard to me. Just because a natural guard CAN play left tackle capably doesn't mean that he's not still a natural guard. Like Cordy Glenn before him, he is a natural guard that has the foot quickness and other necessary traits to be a good (not great) tackle. While it's doubtful that the Bills could get a tackle prospect as late as they pick in round 1 that would be better than Dion at LT, if they COULD....this is a move that should be considered. Yes in the brief time that Dion Dawkins spent filling in for Richie Incognito at guard as a rookie he stood out. He looked much better than Incognito. And Incognito was still quite good at the time. He's older now and hasn't taken care to have himself in the best of shape for many years(in addition to a near death experience with Covid) but I do suspect he'd still be an excellent guard. He has the power, the feet and the low center of gravity that not all tackles have. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Why not just have him get in better shape? He’s a solid LT when doesn’t let himself go. He was definitely the sloppiest looking dude at the Pro Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Why not just have him get in better shape? He’s a solid LT when doesn’t let himself go. He was definitely the sloppiest looking dude at the Pro Bowl. 7 years is a great amount of time to get out of a never-elite LT. This is his 7th year. Whether they replace him this season or next it's either near or at the top of their long term needs. LT is the only premium OL position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Why not just have him get in better shape? He’s a solid LT when doesn’t let himself go. He was definitely the sloppiest looking dude at the Pro Bowl. It was crazy seeing him vs the other players, most people probably missed it. I bet he could eat more wings than anyone on the team though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Dawkins is going to RT before guard They’re not taking a top 12 left tackle and moving him to guard… not happening If they like a LT prospect at #27, Dawkins isn't a reason to pass on him. You get the best starting 5 on the field, if that means Dawkins is the LG so be it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, artmalibu said: So lets take solid starting LT and move him to a new position and maybe we can draft a guy to fill the void? How sure are you that the Bills could draft him? He is a top 10 on some Big Boards and we draft at what 27. What are you willing to give to move up? How sure are you that he will be better than Dion at OT? And he is a quote about this guy “He’s a Pro Bowler at guard but just an average tackle if a team keeps him there.” -- Executive for NFC team I’m not willing to trade up for Skoronoski, if he’s there at 27 I draft him. I’m fine with leaving Dawkins at OT and putting Skor at LG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: so the Bengals defenders don’t pants him again Sorry to say, our offensive issues are not squarely on the shoulders of our LT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I was thinking TE, but sure why not guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) I’ve said this for years, if we drafted an elite LT we could upgrade 2 positions with one pick. Edited March 11, 2023 by Call_Of_Ktulu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 18 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: I don't have a problem with his contract nor moving him to LG. If Jones were to fall to us it would make for an interesting decision by Beane. The idea if Dion moving to LG has been kicked around before. Saffold is out the door and Spencer playing RT terrifies me. This is the long overdue season we go crazy on OL. Agreed and he was projected as G coming out I believe I think Spencer has a good chance of working out and making a jump. He flashed at times and was better as a rookie. So it's a big year for him. But competition never hurt 28 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I’ve said this for years, if we drafted an elite LT we could upgrade 2 positions with one pick. Sounds good to me Elite LT-Dawkins-Morse would give us a great-elite left side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 19 hours ago, ngbills said: What about him makes him a better G than T? He's actually not that great a LT imo, though he can play the position. I think he could be a very good guard. I don't know how he would react to the suggestion that he move inside. Probably not very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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