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19 hours ago, Steptide said:

This should be an absolute blood bath (score wise) but I'll still have raging anxiety come Sunday at 1


Not if they play that €#*^¥ pass defense they played against the Pats.  Need to blitz the sh€# out of this youngster.

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2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

Tua gave them a punchers chance to win. Without him it’s going be near impossible for them to win this game.

 

The only way they could realistically win is of the Bills have 4+ turnovers, including at least one Dolphins Defensive/ST TD and another inside their own 10 yard line.

 

The Dolphins defense has to play much better than they have shown capable of to win.

 

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14 hours ago, JGMcD2 said:

Go off again??

 

Waddle 

 

4/6 for 102

3/7 for 114 and 1 TD

 

Hill 

 

2/4 for 33

9/13 for 69 and 1 TD

 

Waddle burned us 1 time in each game... they've done a pretty solid job of holding these two in check. Probably the best out of anyone that has played them... and we played them with Tua both times. 

 

Yes and our secondary in those games were nearly 100%, minus Tre in the first game and Hyde in the 2nd. Now? We are pretty banged up... Poyer isn't 100% (even though his 75% is better than most 100's), we lost our leading tackler for the year, Tre isn't the same as he was last year (been burned a lot and had had several flags for holding or PI), Hyde won't play. 

 

If you don't think any QB could simply use the speed of Waddle or Tyreek for a big play, not sure what to tell ya. I've watched way to much football to be completely convinced we won't struggle in the secondary. We win, by 10+ but I feel we are barely hanging on with our defense right now. 

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Bills need to focus and not take the Fins lightly, no matter that they are facing a 3rd string. They need to get up early and not let them hang around. No more of these opening drives TDs or long drives given up to opposition. This way they can pile on the pressure and force Thompson into bad decisions in desperation as the game wears on. And can we please get out of this game without getting banged up? rest some starters in the 4th and get some backups in there for experience!

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9 hours ago, sven233 said:

The Fins are going to run it, WR screen it, and slant us to death.  Their QB won't hold the ball.  It's going to be on us to make sure we tackle well which has been a major issue for us all season.  I have never seen a worse tackling team than we have been this season.  That said, if the offense can put up 28+, and get up really early, we should win comfortably.  But this is the NFL.  It's a division opponent that has played dirty at times.  Regardless of the spread, we will need to be on our game if for no other reason than to get out of the game healthy.  Bad things can happen if you are not 100% engaged in the game.  Stay focused on the task at hand and survive and advance.  That is what the Playoffs are all about.

Yes, yes you have... You've seen many worse tackling teams this season alone!

https://www.pff.com/news/sig-stats-tackling-efficiency-by-team

 

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57 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Yes and our secondary in those games were nearly 100%, minus Tre in the first game and Hyde in the 2nd. Now? We are pretty banged up... Poyer isn't 100% (even though his 75% is better than most 100's), we lost our leading tackler for the year, Tre isn't the same as he was last year (been burned a lot and had had several flags for holding or PI), Hyde won't play. 

 

If you don't think any QB could simply use the speed of Waddle or Tyreek for a big play, not sure what to tell ya. I've watched way to much football to be completely convinced we won't struggle in the secondary. We win, by 10+ but I feel we are barely hanging on with our defense right now. 

Huh? The secondary was decimated in the first game.  Probably the worst it’s been all year. The only starter that played was taron Johnson.  Poyer and hyde didn’t play at all.  Safeties were Jaquan Johnson/Damar Hamlin.  
 

didn’t have Dane Jackson or Christian benford so the corners were kaiir elam and cam Lewis/Jamarcus Ingram. 
 

our secondary situation is exponentially better than that game right now even if tre is mediocre 

 

miami would’ve gotten absolutely destroyed if our injury situation was a little closer to typical.  We were missing 5 offensive linemen by the second half also.

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7 minutes ago, blitzboy54 said:

I don't know why everyone assumes Thompson is going to start. It could very well be Bridgewater. Absolutely nobody has ruled him out. He's not Tua but can make a game competitive

I really think it’s gonna be bridgewater.  To be fair to people though lol,  all the talking heads have been saying Thompson is ‘expected’ to start which is why they think that.  
 

they don’t want bridgewater to further aggravate his finger so he’s not takin practice reps and they’re gonna see how it feels Sunday 

 

The thing with bridgewater though is he’s a bit of a mismatch to what their offense likes to do.  I don’t think he’s that much worse than tua he just doesn’t have the skills their offense is built around 

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1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I really think it’s gonna be bridgewater.  To be fair to people though lol,  all the talking heads have been saying Thompson is ‘expected’ to start which is why they think that.  
 

they don’t want bridgewater to further aggravate his finger so he’s not takin practice reps and they’re gonna see how it feels Sunday 

 

If he doesn't practice with the 1st team offense all week, starting him would be weird. 

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5 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I really think it’s gonna be bridgewater.  To be fair to people though lol,  all the talking heads have been saying Thompson is ‘expected’ to start which is why they think that.  
 

they don’t want bridgewater to further aggravate his finger so he’s not takin practice reps and they’re gonna see how it feels Sunday 

 

The thing with bridgewater though is he’s a bit of a mismatch to what their offense likes to do.  I don’t think he’s that much worse than tua he just doesn’t have the skills their offense is built around 

Their chances are about the same with Bridgewater and Thompson. I was giving them 50/50 odds if Tua started. We played two, really tough games against each other this year. With the other two, I have it 80/20 favoring the Bills. Our offense would have to implode for them to win, specifically Josh would have to play his worst game in a long time. I just don't see it. 

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1 hour ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Yes and our secondary in those games were nearly 100%, minus Tre in the first game and Hyde in the 2nd. Now? We are pretty banged up... Poyer isn't 100% (even though his 75% is better than most 100's), we lost our leading tackler for the year, Tre isn't the same as he was last year (been burned a lot and had had several flags for holding or PI), Hyde won't play. 

 

If you don't think any QB could simply use the speed of Waddle or Tyreek for a big play, not sure what to tell ya. I've watched way to much football to be completely convinced we won't struggle in the secondary. We win, by 10+ but I feel we are barely hanging on with our defense right now. 

Where in God's name are you getting your information from?

 

Buffalo @ Miami 9/25/2022

 

Injured Players

  • Jordan Poyer OUT
  • Micah Hyde OUT (Placed on IR that week)
  • Dane Jackson OUT
  • Tre'Davious White IR 

That's 3/5 of our starting secondary when the season opened up (our base D is Nickel) for anyone who is counting. Or 4/5 if you want to include Tre.

 

Active Players

  • Jaquan Johnson and Damar Hamlin played the entire game as our starting safeties (They're both backups)
  • Elam and Taron Johnson played 100% of the defensive snaps (Elam was a backup at this point)
  • Benford started opposite of Elam but BROKE HIS HAND during the game and Ja'Marcus Ingram who was elevated from the practice squad played 56% of the defensive snaps at CB that game (Benford had been playing the majority of the snaps at CB2 through the first two weeks of the season)
     

If you didn't want to include Tre in the initial exercise because he started the season on the IR, then here we can point to the fact that a 4th member of our starting secondary missed the majority of the game anyway when he broke his hand :) 

 

Dolphins Receiving Stats

 

  • Jaylen Waddle
    • 4 receptions on 6 targets
    • 102 yards receiving (Long of 45)
    • 0 TD
       
  • Tyreek Hill
    • 2 receptions on 4 targets
    • 33 yards receiving (Long of 22)
    • 0 TD

 

 

Miami @ Buffalo 12/17/2022

 

This is where things returned closer to normal. 

 

Injured Players

  • Micah Hyde IR
  • Christian Benford IR

 

Active Players

  • Jordan Poyer 100%
  • Damar Hamlin 100%
  • Taron Johnson 100%
  • Tre'Davious White 100%
  • Dane Jackson 53%
  • Kaiir Elam 47%

 

Dolphins Receiving Stats

 

  • Jaylen Waddle
    • 3 receptions on 7 targets 
    • 114 yards receiving (Long of 67)
    • 1 TD
  • Tyreek Hill
    • 9 receptions on 13 targets
    • 69 yards receiving (Long of 20)
    • 1 TD

 

Waddle and Hill Combined Performance in 2022

 

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Games in red are where Teddy Bridgewater played the majority of the snaps and games in green are where Skylar Thompson played the majority of the snaps. Oddly enough we're the only AFCE team to play the Dolphins with Tua twice. Also, probably a coincidence, but our performance was better against Hill/Waddle the second time around. 

 

In terms of CTCH% we tied ourselves for the 6th best performance. Patriots and Jets had better weeks, but both times it was without Tua starting. In terms of Y/R we had the 7th best performance (Week 15) and 16th best performance (Week 3). 

 

So yeah... they did fairly well when we were missing 4 members of our starting secondary (Week 3) and then it was weird in Week 15... we got 4 members of our starting secondary back and performed much better.

 

Also want to point out their two worst performances of the year were when Skylar Thompson played the majority of the snaps :) 

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3 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

It'll only be close if the Bills can't stop the run and Miami converts RZ opportunities into points.

 

I don't see it happening.

 

Side note: keep Phillips on the sideline; he can't stop the run with that gimpy arm.


Hey Goat,

 

As you know McFrazier usually sacrifice one thing to stop the other.  They have prioritized containing as best as possible Waddle, Hill, and Gesecki.  As a result they sacrificed rushing yards as it’s not that Miami are world beaters in the run game.

 

Now that Tua is out, my guess is they will be a little more balanced as they aren’t going to have the same confidence in Thompson.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:


Hey Goat,

 

As you know McFrazier usually sacrifice one thing to stop the other.  They have prioritized containing as best as possible Waddle, Hill, and Gesecki.  As a result they sacrificed rushing yards as it’s not that Miami are world beaters in the run game.

 

Now that Tua is out, my guess is they will be a little more balanced as they aren’t going to have the same confidence in Thompson.

 

 

Yeah, I have no doubt they can stop the run if they want to. Just not with a one-armed DT out there.

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