BillsSbSoon Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Billsy or not, we win a super bowl with Hopkins, sig it. You aren’t stopping Diggs + Hopkins with Allen throwing the ball. With good WR depth like Davis and Shakir eating if teams focus on both Diggs and Hopkins. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. But yes Hopkins added to this offense with what we have and added already would be ridiculously hard to stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Just now, Bruffalo said: Please correct me if I'm wrong but there's no O-Lineman of Hopkins' status available for a trade, much less a presumable cheap-ish trade. Just because you have deficiencies in one position group doesn't mean you shouldn't take a golden opportunity to massively increase another. I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, just that its a ridiculous contention that they're going to win a SB because they added a WR to run routes behind a porous OLine 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 minute ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: On my admittedly brief dive into interior OL in the draft Avila seemed like a good fit who we could get in round 2. What do you like about him? He’s one of the best pass protecting linemen in the draft. I’ve skimmed over his stats and game play, and he would absolutely help give Allen the time he needs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Funny listening to Schopp and Bulldog now arguing they want this trade (even expect it now) after disagreeing with callers about it less than 2-weeks ago. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, Virgil said: The trade will be made official on the 114th page of this thread. Make it happen people With your continued contributions, I'm sure we'll get there by tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Airseven said: Can you give a more specific and current assessment of those OL you mention? Can you leave forever? page 100 inc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 40 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said: Give AZ Moss and a 5th, then lets call it a day and grab DHop Who is Moss? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said: Funny listening to Schopp and Bulldog now arguing they want this trade (even expect it now) after disagreeing with callers about it less than 2-weeks ago. Well that pretty much mirrors my position on it, so I totally get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Which is why I want to trade for Hopkins and totally dedicate the draft to the oline and a LB Yeah, after you've traded your first round pick for a guy that probably won't even draw a third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Simon said: I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, just that its a ridiculous contention that they're going to win a SB because they added a WR to run routes behind a porous OLine That's fair. I do think McGovern is an upgrade from Saffold, but you're right in that I'd like to see them do more (cough cough Spencer Brown). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 100? Dang it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Simon said: I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, just that its a ridiculous contention that they're going to win a SB because they added a WR to run routes behind a porous OLine I’m making the assumption that Beane will address the oline in the draft. But generally yes I agree with you, but Hopkins should be the first main piece to get us to where we want to go. That allows us to not have to immediate use a pick on WR in the draft, but instead pick up more protection pieces for Allen. Avila is my main target for oline, the dude just stonewalls people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Simon said: You do understand that you could put Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson out there and it doesn't mean jack spit if your QB is getting swarmed before he even hits his drop? I think most of us would agree that we would have rather built this thing differently, but given our circumstances, we have no way to build the type of line in FA signings or the draft that pays dividends quick enough to allow this groups of WR's time to be an actual threat to opposing defenses. We should be bolstering the line heavily in the draft this year no doubt. In the interim, Hopkins will create more issues then just about any other option we can pursue given the way the team is built and the needs we have. He will also open up the ability to really focus on the line in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Simon said: I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, just that its a ridiculous contention that they're going to win a SB because they added a WR to run routes behind a porous OLine They definitely need to improve the oliine. McGovern and Edwards if healthy could raise the iol to competent which is a huge upgrade from last year. They still need to add. A day one or two pick needs to be brought in at minimum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 100 woo dang it lol Edited March 24, 2023 by CaliBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) If this is still going to happen, the holdup is probably finding someplace to send Oliver or Basham for a not-embarrassing low rate of return. Hey, I got the 100-page post without even trying. Edited March 24, 2023 by FrenchConnection 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Simon said: Yeah, after you've traded your first round pick for a guy that probably won't even draw a third. I said I would only do it if KC is offering a 2nd, which it doesn’t sound like they are. Nobody said anything about it being a 2023 pick, it can be a 2024 pick. Go get Hopkins and use the entire draft on oline and a LB. That’s my plan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 100, geah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: I’m making the assumption that Beane will address the oline in the draft. But generally yes I agree with you, but Hopkins should be the first main piece to get us to where we want to go. That allows us to not have to immediate use a pick on WR in the draft, but instead pick up more protection pieces for Allen. Avila is my main target for oline, the dude just stonewalls people. I really like some of the lineman that should be available to us in this year's draft too. I just won't assume they'll acclimate to the NFL game as rookies. That's pretty rare. The recent 2 good OL the Chiefs picked took 2 years before they were playing consistently for example. Doesn't mean I wouldn't still draft them but... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Beane, pull the trigger! Give them whatever they want. I can’t take it. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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