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Rumor: McDaniel could be fired if Fins lose to the Jets and miss playoffs


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35 minutes ago, appoo said:

They get to 8-3 and then lose to 

 

A) the best team in the NFC right now, possibly the NFL, in the Niners away

 

B) a more talented, though to this point underperforming, Chargers

 

C) arguably outplayed, but lost to the Bills away 


D) packers in a game where Tua played in the 2nd half with a concussion without anyone realizing it, and having basically the worst half of his career likely due to the concussion 

 

E) The pats without a QB

 

Yes they have a losing streak, but this isn’t choking. They’re losing to teams that are more talented or when they didn’t have a healthy Tua. 

 

 

Would you mind elaborating on the outplayed the Bills? 

 

Allen threw for more yards and tds than tua and had a higher rating.

The Bills had more total yards and first downs.

TOP was separated by 14 seconds.

The Bills won 3 of the 4 quarter score wise.

 

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2 hours ago, H2o said:

This was my thought exactly. Here come Sean Payton and Tom Brady to South Beach. 

No way.  They were already caught tampering to make this happen.  No way the league just lets that happen one year later.  If I’m New Orleans I ask a team for two firsts and settle for a first and a second to get Payton.  If it’s Miami I ask for 14 firsts and 8 seconds and settle for 14 firsts 7 seconds a third and a fifth.

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3 hours ago, arcane said:

I don't think this would be smart, I think McDaniel is a good coach. I think he outcoached our staff (a very good staff) in both games. 

No! They all need to be fired! It is for the greater  good and betterment of our team, “The Buffalo Bills!” What are ya a dolphins fan or something…, 

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3 hours ago, NewEra said:

Can you explain why you think he outcoached our staff in the first meeting?

The first one is a bit more hand-waivy than the second game, which I think was clear from an Xs and Os standpoint that the Bills won because josh allen wanted them to badly enough and ONLY for that reason. But their team was ready to play us in week 3, executed better than we did. Yes we walked up and down the field, but their red zone D stymied our red zone O in the second half. If the Bills replaced josh allen with a Tua level QB, they would lose worse in game 3 than they did, and would have lost handily a couple weeks ago. 

 

This isn't because our staff blows chunks, they are good. But Miami's coaches were excellent against us this year and had Tua not had injury issues (yes I understand the coach's role in these) the Dolphins would probably have won 11 or 12 games 

 

They wouldn't have won the east tho

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3 hours ago, NewEra said:

Can you explain why you think he outcoached our staff in the first meeting?

I wouldn’t say he outcoached us in the first game but the second meeting offensively we couldn’t stop them and Tua had a pretty decent game against us. Defensively we couldn’t stop Mostert or Wilson Jr.

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2 minutes ago, arcane said:

The first one is a bit more hand-waivy than the second game, which I think was clear from an Xs and Os standpoint that the Bills won because josh allen wanted them to badly enough and ONLY for that reason. But their team was ready to play us in week 3, executed better than we did. Yes we walked up and down the field, but their red zone D stymied our red zone O in the second half. If the Bills replaced josh allen with a Tua level QB, they would lose worse in game 3 than they did, and would have lost handily a couple weeks ago. 

 

This isn't because our staff blows chunks, they are good. But Miami's coaches were excellent against us this year and had Tua not had injury issues (yes I understand the coach's role in these) the Dolphins would probably have won 11 or 12 games 

 

They wouldn't have won the east tho

The dolphins “executed better than us?”

NO…..they did not.  
 

Also-  If they had a Josh allen type qb they wouldn’t have all the other talent in the field…… because they couldn’t afford it. 
 

your opinion is incorrect .

 

 

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2 hours ago, K-9 said:

Per the bold, I’d be interested in how you quantify that. Especially in the first game when we dominated them. 

Halftime adjustments, their D figured us out and despite hitting the red zone we could not finish any drives in half 2. Allen walked up and down the field yes, he bails us out from time to time. Miami executed better than we did and came away with the win. I'm willing to pass on that game if people really want to dig their heels in, because I'm not saying that the staff is BETTER than ours, but I think that team built itself for years to catch up to us and that preparation showed. They will not be an existential threat to us as long as allen is here, and our coaches are absolutely capable of swinging the pendulum back at them.

 

In the second game I don't think there's any pushback to the idea that they out-coached us, and that superman Allen saved the day.

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The dolphins “executed better than us?”

NO…..they did not.  
 

Also-  If they had a Josh allen type qb they wouldn’t have all the other talent in the field…… because they couldn’t afford it. 
 

your opinion is incorrect .

 

 

They won, forced a turnover in a critical area, and bowed up to force red zone stops at key times in the game. The bills choked all their key moments in that game. 

 

So yes, that's generally how I qualify executing 

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3 hours ago, arcane said:

I don't think this would be smart, I think McDaniel is a good coach. I think he outcoached our staff (a very good staff) in both games. 

I do not see how we can conclude he is a good coach based on the collapse of the team down the stretch and the gross incompetence displayed in the mismanagement of Tua’s head injuries.  That alone speaks to his immaturity and lack of leadership.  He could not out coach McDermott on his best day and did not in either game.  

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3 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

I wouldn’t say he outcoached us in the first game but the second meeting offensively we couldn’t stop them and Tua had a pretty decent game against us. Defensively we couldn’t stop Mostert or Wilson Jr.

We could not stop them??  They were 5/14 on third downs. 1/1 on 4th.  They had 20 first downs.  Which is decent amount….. but nothing close to “can’t be stopped”.  Tua was 17/30 passing. 


We couldn’t stop Jeff Wilson?  Interesting.  Care to explain? 

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