Bengals RT torn ACL out for the year

[Nextmanup]

It's amazing what a poor design the human knee is.

 

It's not evolved for upright walking on 2 legs.

 

 

[John from Riverside]

On 12/25/2022 at 10:00 PM, Airseven said:

Needless to say - “don’t like to see it” - but they’ll be fine. Bengals are peaking at the right time again.

Lol they almost just lost their last game

[Bockeye]

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

It's amazing what a poor design the human knee is.

 

It's not evolved for upright walking on 2 legs.

 

 

See - that’s why I drink heavily and crawl around. I knew there was a reason. 

[HOUSE]

We had our share of injuries this season, I don't remember any sympathy cards....

[CSBill]

On 12/25/2022 at 4:32 PM, Steptide said:

Here's a really dumb question - are acl injuries not painful? How do you pass an acl test or play through a blown acl? 

 

Well, I cried like a baby when Von hurt his. It was very painful.

[machine gun kelly]

I don’t like to hear about any significant injury and helped my son who just went through it the last 10 months.  Objectively, it does possibly help us for next Monday.  Collins is a solid RT.  This is still outside of maybe KC our toughest opponent of the year until the playoffs.

[Behindenemylines]

On 12/25/2022 at 11:58 PM, Einstein said:

Expected recovery is 7 months?

 

Dont tell Tre.

7 months plus 4 or 5.  Literally 0% he makes it in 7 with a man that size doing what he needs to do.  
 

and I’ve seen it take 18 months to get back to shape. In high end athletes it’s all about what stresses will be placed on it and how quickly you can rebuild the surrounding muscle etc.  and of course all of this assumes no setbacks etc. 

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

I remember earlier in the season Collins was playing really poorly.  Had he turned it around since?

[Coldfronts]

On 12/25/2022 at 5:32 PM, Steptide said:

Here's a really dumb question - are acl injuries not painful? How do you pass an acl test or play through a blown acl? 

I can only speak to how it was for me..I am not and never was a pro athlete but, after the initial injury which was very painful it became just a low level dull ach.  For me it was the stability issues it felt like I was walking on clown stilts 

[SoCal Deek]

4 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

It's amazing what a poor design the human knee is.

 

It's not evolved for upright walking on 2 legs.

 

 

Mine are both fine and I have to believe are way way past their warranty. Thanks for asking. 

[Buffalo Boy]

4 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

It's amazing what a poor design the human knee is.

 

It's not evolved for upright walking on 2 legs.

 

 

   “Poor design “……., have you seen the human shoulder???!

    Only an idiot would have come up with that contraption 😈

[Einstein]

4 hours ago, Behindenemylines said:

and I’ve seen it take 18 months to get back to shape. In high end athletes it’s all about what stresses will be placed on it and how quickly you can rebuild the surrounding muscle etc.  and of course all of this assumes no setbacks etc. 

 

Robert Woods came back in 8 months. WR’s have nearly identical stress on the joint as a CB.

 

Peterson also was playing and cutting on his ACL knee 8 months after surgery in a historic season.

[SWATeam]

1 minute ago, Einstein said:

 

Robert Woods came back in 8 months. WR’s have nearly identical stress on the joint as a CB.

lol, great example... By the looks of his play maybe he could have used a few more months or ten...

[Einstein]

Just now, SWATeam said:

lol, great example... By the looks of his play maybe he could have used a few more months or ten...

 

Adrian Peterson also was playing and cutting on his ACL knee 8 months after surgery in a historic season.

[Real McClappy]

13 hours ago, Reks Ryan said:

Watched the replay of Cincinnati & NE.  #77 Adeniji played very well after Collins was hurt.  Don’t think the Bengals will lose much w Adeniji playing. 
 

And BTW, Cincinnati dominated that game. A few fluke plays like tipped ball TD on 3rd & 29 and Jamar Chase fumble  gave NE a chance late.   Bengals are going to be a tough match up for the Bills.

I wouldn't say Cincy dominated that game against the Pats when they scored 0 points the 2nd half. 

[SWATeam]

8 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Adrian Peterson also was playing and cutting on his ACL knee 8 months after surgery in a historic season.

Well, that seals it!  The outlier of outliers should be the norm!

[ExiledInIllinois]

8 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

It's amazing what a poor design the human knee is.

 

It's not evolved for upright walking on 2 legs.

 

 

I disagree... It's not made for what we do to it. 

 

Service life is only 40 years... What's life expectancy today?

[GolfandBills]

8 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

It's amazing what a poor design the human knee is.

 

It's not evolved for upright walking on 2 legs.

 

 

I don’t think the human knee was built with professional football in mind 

Edited December 27, 2022 by GolfandBills

[Neo]

On 12/25/2022 at 5:32 PM, Steptide said:

Here's a really dumb question - are acl injuries not painful? How do you pass an acl test or play through a blown acl? 

I’ve done it twice.   I won’t say they were painless, but there was surprisingly little pain when the tears happened.   There’s soreness and swelling after, especially if cartridge is torn.  OId man trivia, Dr. Marzo did my first surgery in the early 1990s.   Bills physician, surgeon at the time.

 

Most memorable physical impression … both times my brain believed my knee was “unraveling” because things where going in directions they shouldn’t.   Both times I felt an immediate “snap back” into place.    Think of those holiday toys where you press the bottom of a base piece and the elf, or santa, or reindeer collapses, and snaps back to upright.   That’s my ACL history.

[DaggersEOD]

On 12/25/2022 at 5:32 PM, Steptide said:

Here's a really dumb question - are acl injuries not painful? How do you pass an acl test or play through a blown acl? 

I don’t know the answer to your question but these guys are likely doped up prior to the game and get some in-game “treatments” in the tents. 

Guys carried/limping into the tent, leave 5 min later “testing the knee” doing sprints on the sideline 😬

 

Im sure there is a cool off period after each game where the “adrenaline” wears off and they start assessing the damage they did that week. 

[Behindenemylines]

8 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

Robert Woods came back in 8 months. WR’s have nearly identical stress on the joint as a CB.

 

Peterson also was playing and cutting on his ACL knee 8 months after surgery in a historic season.

Good for them. Those aren’t typical timeframes and references to Tre may be totally different. 
 

I’ve only been involved in rehab involving this type of thing for 25 so maybe I have no clue what I’m talking about. 
 

it’s a very patient specific issue involving more than just the joint tendons ligaments and muscle. 
 

but what do I know

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

On 12/25/2022 at 12:29 PM, Buffalo619 said:

7 months? Tre took over a year to come back.  Best of luck recovering. 

Collins makes $8 million this year, which sounds like a lot, but it's not Tre money. Not sure if it's a big enough pile of money to lounge around on for a full year like Tre.

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, Behindenemylines said:

 

but what do I know

 

I’m not questioning your intelligence, rather just showing you what actual human beings in his position (athlete) have done.

 

Im assuming you’re not working with a lot of NFL athletes.

[Hsker4life]

10 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

Robert Woods came back in 8 months. WR’s have nearly identical stress on the joint as a CB.

 

Peterson also was playing and cutting on his ACL knee 8 months after surgery in a historic season.

Not every “ACL injury” is the same. Woods had a clean tear and no other damage. White also had significant meniscus damage. 
 

The average NFL player returns from an ACL tear in about 11 months. White wasn’t that far off at all. 

[Behindenemylines]

8 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

I’m not questioning your intelligence, rather just showing you what actual human beings in his position (athlete) have done.

 

Im assuming you’re not working with a lot of NFL athletes.

Didn’t mean to be salty, post holiday venting - my apologies 

 

 

[John from Riverside]

This comes along at an opportune time for the bills sad for the injury, but Groot really needs to have a good game

[Comebackkid]

On 12/27/2022 at 10:46 AM, GolfandBills said:

I don’t think the human knee was built with professional football in mind 

I think athletes and joints are like putting a built big block in your stock unibody car.   I think the muscles can be built far better than the tendons that hold everything together.

[The Frankish Reich]

16 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

"Lounge around". Indeed....until YOU have had such an injury..

That was just a little sarcasm directed at the poster who started a thread about Tre dogging it … I agree with you: we are in no position to judge recovery times.