hemma Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Favre had 166 career fumbles, so Josh still has some wiggle room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 It’s a weakness, but clearly not a dealbreaker. im not sure there’s anything to say besides that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Josh Allen passes the ball a lot and runs the ball a lot. It’s not an understatement to say the offense literally goes through him. Because of that, I fully expect him to have higher turnover numbers than most QBs. I dont think it’s a matter of Allen being turnover prone but more a product of Allen constantly running this offense like no other QB does in the NFL. I rarely get that nervous feeling in my gut of “please don’t turn the ball over”. He’s pretty good about it overall. The only nervousness I suffer from Allen is when he runs and decides to go full linebacker mode on opposing players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 The offensive line is the issue. Weakest position group on team, and in dire need of post season upgrades. Josh fumbles are a symptom. Blind side hits throwing arm- how exactly is that Josh’s fault? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: It’s a weakness, but clearly not a dealbreaker. im not sure there’s anything to say besides that. Clearly this was just a LAMP intended to give the OP a reason to say “whilst”. He can’t help himself. It’s sad, really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: He fumbled running last week. What bad snap against Minnesota? Allen fumble was a perfect snap. Allen just blew it. Not buying this Morse is out nonsense. Allen is a ProQB and these are professional linemen. There is no excuse for a bad snap and exchange, ever. Practice it every day with Morse and the backups. Pretty simple. Not in the open field, was in the area between the O and D Lines. I was specifically talking about him being in the open field and fumbling while trying to run over someone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 5 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: If you look at most QBs, his fumble numbers are consistent. this comment tells me you're clueless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, NoSaint said: It’s a weakness, but clearly not a dealbreaker. im not sure there’s anything to say besides that. There is a bit more I would add (I agree with you) If anything, he has clearly shown a desire and ability to fix shortcomings in his game. Consider the INTs this season - 10 in the first 9 games, 1 since. So I expect him to continue to be cognizant of ball security. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Josh needs to be better plain and simple. I feel most of his fumbles have been stripped sacks or fumbled snaps. Against MIA alone I believe he has two strip sack fumbles, two botched snap fumbles and two regular fumbles. That’s SIX right there. It greatly contributed to the first loss against MIA and dang near again in the second game. Obviously the fumbled snap against MINN cost them. I love Josh but just like interceptions he’s got to be better protecting the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, WotAGuy said: Clearly this was just a LAMP intended to give the OP a reason to say “whilst”. He can’t help himself. It’s sad, really. My Whilst Mission is into its 12th year. I've made a lot of progress, I'm proud to say. And thank you for your assistance and your contribution!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninMinn. Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 9 hours ago, Big Turk said: Allen almost never fumbles while running anymore. Used to happen regularly, I can't remember the last time he did while out in the open field running. He had one recovered by Spencer Brown in this last game. I think 4th qtr and could have been devastating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Gugny said: My Whilst Mission is into its 12th year. I've made a lot of progress, I'm proud to say. And thank you for your assistance and your contribution!! Yer a Got Dam Rabble Rouser! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 His fumbles will be an issue if we lose a playoff game because of his fumbles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 9 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: And he really should have fumbled another time when he tried to swim the ball over a defensive player with one hand in a desperate attempt to score (I think this may have been the play before the Knox TD). He's much much better than he was during his first two seasons, but that reckless streak hasn't been completely tamped down. And it never should be coached out of him totally. The reckless streak that is. "Necessity is the mother of taking chances." ~Mark Twain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 7 hours ago, JohninMinn. said: He had one recovered by Spencer Brown in this last game. I think 4th qtr and could have been devastating. He was not in the open field running, which is what I was referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 11-3. Nope, not an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 * Dude is such a freak that he is about to smash Dan Marino’s 40 year TD record in the first 5 years! * He is about to become #10 ALL TIME on the Bills’ Career Rushing Yards list! * TDs? He is already #3, behind Thurman & OJ! And on the All Time Passing Yards list? * At Season’s end, he may be ranked #120 (Darryl Lamonica) with 19,000 yards * And will likely reach # 100 All Time in TDs with 142! I’m good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 I just read this on the Dolphins forum. Angry if this is true: https://finheaven.com/threads/we-are-better-team-than-buffalo-now-and-going-forward.376281/post-9256010 "Cam Newton 62 fumbles in 148 reg season games Josh Allen 51 fumbles in 75 reg season games" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 The only fumbles I "blame" Josh for are like the one he made on Saturday, right before his 44-yard run. It was a designed QB run and he had it popped out as he went through the line. We got lucky Brown recovered it or the game may have been over right there. That's totally on Josh. I don't blame him for strip sacks, and I don't blame him fully for botched center exchanges. Can anyone think of a game (besides Minnesota) in which a Josh fumble lost it for the Bills? And even in that one, he took us back to get to OT before he threw a bad INT that did lose the game (on a bad elbow). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 21, 2022 Author Share Posted December 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, eball said: The only fumbles I "blame" Josh for are like the one he made on Saturday, right before his 44-yard run. It was a designed QB run and he had it popped out as he went through the line. We got lucky Brown recovered it or the game may have been over right there. That's totally on Josh. I don't blame him for strip sacks, and I don't blame him fully for botched center exchanges. Can anyone think of a game (besides Minnesota) in which a Josh fumble lost it for the Bills? And even in that one, he took us back to get to OT before he threw a bad INT that did lose the game (on a bad elbow). I don't blame him for most of this year's fumbles. To your last question ... no - I don't think we've lost a game due to an Allen fumble. But to my earlier point, that's why I'm saying it's not necessarily a concern right now ... but giving playoff offenses extra chances isn't something anyone wants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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