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Josh Allen injury update(officially questionable - expected to start per Ian Rappaport)


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1 hour ago, BillyBilliams said:

 

I mean, if him getting hit in his arm would cause a full tear, what's the difference with him being fully healthy and potentially getting hit like that and getting a sprain to a tear?  If it's not a risk of making it worse by throwing the ball, I think they should let him decide of the pain can be tolerated.  I have heard it could affect the grip of the football and accuracy.  I say let him play, but if he clearly doesn't look right (throwing power and accuracy is greatly diminished), then you put Keenum in.  

Allen didn't look right throwing the ball vs the Jets when healthy. Just saying...Sit him for a game or 2 and let him get healthy and clear his head and eyes. Casey can throw equally bad INTs too. 

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10 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

You do understand that in order to win a division and become the #1 seed, that all games are important…even NFC opponents.

Cute.

 

You do realize division games are much more important when it comes to deciding who will win the division?

 

After our next three games, we play three straight games vs division opponents. That's what will likely decide who wins the afce.

 

If sitting Allen three weeks allows him to come back 100%, that's better than him dealing with a lingering injury all season long. 

 

Even if we go 1-2 with Keenum, the Bills with a 100% Allen are capable of winning 6 straight and still finishing 13-4. 

 

Of course, this includes a lot of speculation about the injury and healing process. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Negan said:

Some fans are ready for that it seems, I'm not and I hope this team isn't either. 

 

Over the last 3 games in Arrowhead we're 2-1, and the loss was because of one of the worst coaching blunders of all time. Of course I'd prefer to get Mahomes in Buffalo in January but people are acting like if we're not the #1 seed we're doomed. Everyone knows the team is a lot better than it's shown these last couple weeks. We need to get everyone healthy as we head into the playoffs.

 

If you told me right now we could sit Allen for 2 games to guarantee he is fully healthy for the rest of the season but also guarantee us the #5 seed at best, I would take that over starting Allen if I knew the risk of re-injury or prolonging the injury was reasonably high.

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11 minutes ago, clayboy54 said:

You are not right in assuming because we don't try to run, that we cannot. These are professional football players. They can run the ball, if they decide to scheme and game plan for that.

 

The real question will be, can Dorsey come up with scheme and play designs to turn the Bills into a running team? In this, I question the possibility. Do these plays even exist in our 2022 playbook? There's no time to install new plays during in-season practices.

If you have watched this team the last 4 years, Allen is the run game. I hate it. I wanted balance even in the height of the high flying video game crazy points run. This style isn’t sustainable and you need balance. At this point, we can’t block it up, we don’t design runs properly, we don’t commit to it and we lack physicality at the point of attack. I hate it. I want a team that runs regularly. Certainly I can’t see a way for that to change now with LESS of a fear of a downfield passing game. Let’s use our head here

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7 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

If you have watched this team the last 4 years, Allen is the run game. I hate it. I wanted balance even in the height of the high flying video game crazy points run. This style isn’t sustainable and you need balance. At this point, we can’t block it up, we don’t design runs properly, we don’t commit to it and we lack physicality at the point of attack. I hate it. I want a team that runs regularly. Certainly I can’t see a way for that to change now with LESS of a fear of a downfield passing game. Let’s use our head here

So you hate the style of the best Bills team since the early 90’s by a country mile? Interesting that all that winning is not entertaining enough. Why bother watching ? 

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1 hour ago, nucci said:

just like we should beat the Jets without Poyer, White and Milano? You want him to play Sunday then sit for 2 games? 

 

I'm assuming a few things ...

  • Milano / Poyer / White are ready to go this week
  • Vikings are a far tougher test than the Browns / Lions where maybe Keenum could win
  • The injury is aggravating for Allen but not likely to get worse 
  • A couple weeks rest without throwing could heal it

Like everyone else, pure speculation. 

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5 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Just a quick reminder for the possibility of Josh sitting out a game or 2…that Keenum has also completed a few memorable passes to our current #1 WR

https://youtu.be/T_AyI8I4O3U

 

He has, and if the Bills were getting that version of Keenum then fine. He’s looked shaky at best in more recent times and that’s a huge concern. 

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8 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Do people realize an NFC loss counts the same as a divisional loss?  Divisional record only becomes a thing in tie-breaker scenarios.  

 

All they think about is tying lol. The goal is to ultimately have the better record which can only occur if you....win games. 

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20 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

But you understand we can’t run the ball right? If that was even a possibility then absolutely. We are incapable of running the ball. Even in extremely light boxes from the fear of a rocket arm MVP QB…what’s it going to look like with a noodle arm journeyman back up. People have to kind of start looking at this realistically. Josh Allen and Diggs are the offense.

 

In 2020, we couldn't run the ball.  4 games with <100 rush yards - one a low of 63!

Then we went into NE and ran the ball all over them.  38 rush plays, 18 pass plays, 190 yds rushing.  Moss and Motor both had >80 yds.

 

So, it's just possible that we might be able to run the ball if we actually focus on it.  Now, whether Dorsey and Kromer can creatively make that happen as Daboll did, don't know.

 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

But you understand we can’t run the ball right? If that was even a possibility then absolutely. We are incapable of running the ball. Even in extremely light boxes from the fear of a rocket arm MVP QB…what’s it going to look like with a noodle arm journeyman back up. People have to kind of start looking at this realistically. Josh Allen and Diggs are the offense.

you do understand there's a difference between can't and won't, right?  The Bills rely heavily on Josh's talent instead of using all the pieces we have.  This is the reason why I was against going after CMC, because I don't think we would've used him in the ground game.  Singletary averages 4-5 yards a carry and gets plenty of chunk plays when he touches the ball.  He runs hard and keeps going.  Cook seems to be getting more capable of touching the ball as well.  We just need to give them more opportunities.  Passing the ball 40 times a game vs running only 10 times a game doesn't mean we can't run the ball, we just simply don't.

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13 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Do people realize an NFC loss counts the same as a divisional loss?  Divisional record only becomes a thing in tie-breaker scenarios.  

 

Tiebreakers will likely be a huge factor for the division this year considering the AFC East competition and the Bills injury issues.  At 6-2, I would personally preferred to have lost to the Packers and Rams, which would put us at 6-0 in the conference and 2-0 in the division (on top of handing the Jets and Dolphins an extra loss).

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57 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said:

 

Let's be real.  Milano and Poyer plays if it's KC.  The coaching staff 100% sat them out because they were confident with a bad QB and no Breece Hall that they'd be fine.

 

Do they want to play?  I'm sure.  Do the Bills let them play if it's KC?  Well, we let Beasley play on a broken leg, and there are serious questions about whether he was, in fact, able to be more effective than "next man up". 

 

Milano in a shoulder brace played a couple games in 2020 where it turned out he literally could not lift his arm to make a tackle.  After that, the Bills wisely shut him down for 3 weeks.

 

Wanting to play and the team putting them out there does not mean "physically effective play".

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1 minute ago, ProcessYaDigg said:

you do understand there's a difference between can't and won't, right?  The Bills rely heavily on Josh's talent instead of using all the pieces we have.  This is the reason why I was against going after CMC, because I don't think we would've used him in the ground game.  Singletary averages 4-5 yards a carry and gets plenty of chunk plays when he touches the ball.  He runs hard and keeps going.  Cook seems to be getting more capable of touching the ball as well.  We just need to give them more opportunities.  Passing the ball 40 times a game vs running only 10 times a game doesn't mean we can't run the ball, we just simply don't.

I fully understand it. We don’t because we can’t. Believe me I hope it changed. I actually hate the way we play offense. I say all the time, I want the 14/15 Cam panthers offense with Josh. I absolutely hate this shotgun, pass every down BS. 

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20 minutes ago, Process said:

Cute.

 

You do realize division games are much more important when it comes to deciding who will win the division?

 

After our next three games, we play three straight games vs division opponents. That's what will likely decide who wins the afce.

 

If sitting Allen three weeks allows him to come back 100%, that's better than him dealing with a lingering injury all season long. 

 

Even if we go 1-2 with Keenum, the Bills with a 100% Allen are capable of winning 6 straight and still finishing 13-4. 

 

Of course, this includes a lot of speculation about the injury and healing process. 

 

Nothing cute about it.  NFC games only matter LESS when it comes to tie-breakers.  If you think the Bills can lose the NFC games and still win the division and the #1 seed, I have some Florida swamp land up ready for you to buy.

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