DrDawkinstein Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 The Pat McAfee show was notified by the NFL, that even though the show pays the NFL $4M/yr to use clips and copyright material, the show is NOT allowed to use team logos in the graphics they make. SMH... Pat McAfee is the best thing FOOTBALL (college and NFL) has going towards marketing their products. Of course the NFL wants to mess that up. I love McAfee's response "I dont think we've touched on many subjects we could have that we now will in the offseason. Such as CTE and insurance and the NFL being held accountable for the things they should be accountable for. Guess we'll start talking a lot more about that stuff." 4 5 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 That show makes enough money to cover the $4 million a year? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 What are only the broadcast partners and the gambling companies allowed to use the logos? Not a good look NFL. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doc said: That show makes enough money to cover the $4 million a year? Theyre on for 3 hours a day, 5 days a week, with millions of listeners. That generates a lot of advertising revenue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said: What are only the broadcast partners and the gambling companies allowed to use the logos? Not a good look NFL. Some of the NFL owners are the owners of the gambling houses, that’s why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doc said: That show makes enough money to cover the $4 million a year? 4 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 The expression "Penny wise and pound foolish" comes to mind. I love my Buffalo Bills but I hate the NFL. 8 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 So McAfee’s show was also broadcast on SiriusXM until fairly recently but that ended and now is exclusively on youtube (I think.) I wonder if moving off from SXM has anything to do with this licensing spat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Well that show is about to get even more interesting 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Pay the fee or don’t use NFL products. That simple. Stop crying about it Simp. 1 6 2 3 1 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 I've been saying it a lot lately. If you are a football fan of any kind, Pat McAfee is a national treasure. Whether it is on his show covering mostly NFL, or on College Gameday, or any of the other shows he participates in... He is well-informed, has the players-chops to back it up, he is quick and witty, and always entertaining. Doesnt say controversial stuff just for the attention, because he doesnt have to. Of course the NFL is going to eff around. Now they are about to find out. 5 1 8 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynamemike Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Cotton Fitzsimmons said: Yeah the boys are doing alright when it comes to their bank accounts. Now Pat’s doing gameday on Saturdays and I think he’s still involved with WWE doing their commentary so he’s pretty good I’d imagine. they have a lot Bills players on for interviews which is cool too. Players really seem much more loose during his show as compared to the normal cookie cutter interviews Edited November 1, 2022 by Mynamemike 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Pay the fee or don’t use NFL products. That simple. Stop crying about it Simp. He's paying 4 million a year. But they aren't letting him use the logos for graphics 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: He's paying 4 million a year. But they aren't letting him use the logos for graphics Cool that is their RIGHT. He can ask how much is the upgrade and we’ll then pay it to for USE of NFL materials. Capitalism Baby. why Should NFL Let ANYONE profit off their items without that fee? Edited November 1, 2022 by MAJBobby 6 3 4 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, Doc said: That show makes enough money to cover the $4 million a year? Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Cool that is their RIGHT. He can ask how much is the upgrade and we’ll then pay it to for USE of NFL materials. Capitalism Baby. why Should NFL Let ANYONE profit off their items without that fee? I don't really care about McAfee or his show but this is just a silly opinion considering the obvious symbiotic relationship between the NFL and the show. 7 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsflyer12 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Cool that is their RIGHT. He can ask how much is the upgrade and we’ll then pay it to for USE of NFL materials. Capitalism Baby. why Should NFL Let ANYONE profit off their items without that fee? I want to hope this is just trolling, but I’m guessing not. SMH 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I've been saying it a lot lately. If you are a football fan of any kind, Pat McAfee is a national treasure. Whether it is on his show covering mostly NFL, or on College Gameday, or any of the other shows he participates in... He is well-informed, has the players-chops to back it up, he is quick and witty, and always entertaining. Doesnt say controversial stuff just for the attention, because he doesnt have to. Of course the NFL is going to eff around. Now they are about to find out. 👍🏻 Been watching him every day since he started on YT. The absolute best, without peer imo. I only watch clips of other talk shows since being spoiled by Pat. I watch his show nearly every m-f 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, Bruffalo said: I don't really care about McAfee or his show but this is just a silly opinion considering the obvious symbiotic relationship between the NFL and the show. Not a silly opinion. It is Capitalism. You want to profit of NFL materials PAY THE FEES. just that easy. All broadcasters do. So take some of your 30M a year made selling gambling to people that cannot afford it and send the fees for use of the logos. Or don’t. But crying about it ***** off Just now, Billsflyer12 said: I want to hope this is just trolling, but I’m guessing not. SMH Do you give away your ***** for FREE? 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Pay the fee or don’t use NFL products. That simple. Stop crying about it Simp. Listen to the clip. It clearly states that they pay the NFL over $4 million for licensing. They have been allowed to use logos until recently and the NFL just told them to stop. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Not a silly opinion. It is Capitalism. You want to profit of NFL materials PAY THE FEES. just that easy. All broadcasters do. So take some of your 30M a year made selling gambling to people that cannot afford it and send the fees for use of the logos. Or don’t. But crying about it ***** off Do you give away your ***** for FREE? Edited November 1, 2022 by DrDawkinstein 4 4 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, MAJBobby said: Not a silly opinion. It is Capitalism. You want to profit of NFL materials PAY THE FEES. just that easy. All broadcasters do. So take some of your 30M a year made selling gambling to people that cannot afford it and send the fees for use of the logos. Or don’t. But crying about it ***** off Yes, the great altar of capitalism. On your knees before its greatness, don't dare look at it in the eyes, for the supply side jesus saves. Screeching libertarianism isn't representative of reality. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Listen to the clip. It clearly states that they pay the NFL over $4 million for licensing. They have been allowed to use logos until recently and the NFL just told them to stop. I dont CARE. That is Well within the NFLS rights. What does the licensing that they were paying for entail? Have you seen the agreement? Is it everything including logos for graphics? The OWNER of the material said you can no longer USE. Their Right to 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I can accept this GIF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Not a silly opinion. It is Capitalism. You want to profit of NFL materials PAY THE FEES. just that easy. All broadcasters do. So take some of your 30M a year made selling gambling to people that cannot afford it and send the fees for use of the logos. Or don’t. But crying about it ***** off Do you give away your ***** for FREE? MILLIONS of businesses give away their products for free in exchange for positive feedback and marketing. McAfees show portrays the nfl in a positive light 99.99a% of the time. i get what you’re saying and I agree that they deserve to get paid….and they are. 4M a year. But the nfl would rather make more money at the expense of one of their biggest supporters. Eager to see how the show attacks this. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I can accept this GIF We get the "black & white", you signed a contract, point of this. I'm not going to argue with you on that. We all get that. It's the most basic way of looking at this. The point of discussion is that the Trillion Dollar NFL is once again shooting itself in the foot for something they could easily smooth over at no cost of their own, and even garner more good will. It's marketing and advertising. They pay a ton for it anyways. It's a short-sighted, greedy move. Sure, they have "the right" to do it, but that doesnt make it "right". But I look forward to the upcoming "NFL Dirt" segments and discussions that will be coming. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: MILLIONS of businesses give away their products for free in exchange for positive feedback and marketing. McAfees show portrays the nfl in a positive light 99.99a% of the time. i get what you’re saying and I agree that they deserve to get paid….and they are. 4M a year. But the nfl would rather make more money at the expense of one of their biggest supporters. Eager to see how the show attacks this. A Couple things. the NFL doesnt need to give away anything for Free Marketing. They need to maximize all the revenue that they can maximize. Pats Show would not have a 30M a year contract to Fan Duel without the NFL would it? So time for NFL to say you want to use our logos on your gambling graphic that you get 30M a year for....... PAY US. How he will attack it, is will quietly pay the license fee and get access to the logos again, his 30M contract from Fan Duel will likely FORCE that. Edited November 1, 2022 by MAJBobby 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, MAJBobby said: I dont CARE. That is Well within the NFLS rights. What does the licensing that they were paying for entail? Have you seen the agreement? Is it everything including logos for graphics? The OWNER of the material said you can no longer USE. Their Right to Nobody is saying the American professional football league doesn't have the right to pull this petty crap. Obviously somewhere in the contract it covers logos and they decided to exercise their right to be giant douches. What we are all saying is that the American professional football league (and you) are wrong for thinking this is a smart move. It's not like they have been pirating American Professional Football League clips and dodging copyright laws. McAffee is extremely good for the image of the American professional football league and now they have pissed him off. Hope it was worth it American Professional Football League! 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: We get the "black & white", you signed a contract, point of this. I'm not going to argue with you on that. We all get that. It's the most basic way of looking at this. The point of discussion is that the Trillion Dollar NFL is once again shooting itself in the foot for something they could easily smooth over at no cost of their own, and even garner more good will. It's marketing and advertising. They pay a ton for it anyways. It's a short-sighted, greedy move. Sure, they have "the right" to do it, but that doesnt make it "right". But I look forward to the upcoming "NFL Dirt" segments and discussions that will be coming. I am willing to bet the NFL says NOTHING is not for the 30M per year Fan Duel contract that these logos are USED on. Fan Duel will pressure him to pay the license and get the logos back, watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 34 minutes ago, Doc said: That show makes enough money to cover the $4 million a year? Lol... MacAfee just signed a 4 year 120 million deal with Fanduel. I think he is good for the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Nobody is saying the American professional football league doesn't have the right to pull this petty crap. Obviously somewhere in the contract it covers logos and they decided to exercise their right to be giant douches. What we are all saying is that the American professional football league (and you) are wrong for thinking this is a smart move. It's not like they have been pirating American Professional Football League clips and dodging copyright laws. McAffee is extremely good for the image of the American professional football league and now they have pissed him off. Hope it was worth it American Professional Football League! Wanna bet. Watch how FAST Pat Folds when he gets the letter from Fan Duel saying get the logos back or we end our sponsorship Just now, Protocal69 said: Lol... MacAfee just signed a 4 year 120 million deal with Fanduel. I think he is good for the money AND THIS IS WHY the NFL said time for more money. They know they will have Fanduel on their side as well with pressure 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: A Couple things. the NFL doesnt need to give away anything for Free Marketing. They need to maximize all the revenue that they can maximize. Pats Show would not have a 30M a year contract to Fan Duel without the NFL would it? So time for NFL to say you want to use our logos on your gambling graphic that you get 30M a year for....... PAY US. Does anyone else see the humor in the fact that MAJBobby is illegally using the NFL's logos in his profile picture without their express written consent? 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Does anyone else see the humor in the fact that MAJBobby is illegally using the NFL's logos in his profile picture without their express written consent? AM I PROFITING??? Simple Yes or No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Does anyone else see the humor in the fact that MAJBobby is illegally using the NFL's logos in his profile picture without their express written consent? Thank god nobody owns the rights on random capitalized words otherwise he'd be in big trouble. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, Bruffalo said: Thank god nobody owns the rights on random capitalized words otherwise he'd be in big trouble. DO you WANT more, DOES it ANNOY you MUCH? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 As a new watcher of that show....damn is it funny. I thought it was interesting they CAN show video but they can't show still GRAPHICS. I honestly thought it would be the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just now, Golden*Wheels said: As a new watcher of that show....damn is it funny. I thought it was interesting they CAN show video but they can't show still GRAPHICS. I honestly thought it would be the opposite. I think it is more likely the Graphics that the logos are on is their Fanduel betting stuff. I am positive the NFL is seeing that nice new 30M a year contract and saying yep we need our piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: AM I PROFITING??? Simple Yes or No? Are you guys not getting paid to post here? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Are you guys not getting paid to post here? Nope, actually I have been told my random caps at times is annoying and the Mods would actually pay me NOT (there it is again) to post. But for me ***** money. At least I dont go with the constant color changing words like was it beastintheeast or something that used to make those posts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said: I want to hope this is just trolling, but I’m guessing not. SMH he’s the same guy that rooting for the Bills to raise ticket prices. Kinda out there 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: he’s the same guy that rooting for the Bills to raise ticket prices. Kinda out there Where did I root for higher ticket prices. You gaslighting needs improvement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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