hemma Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, UKBillFan said: So why cut Mancz? That’s the interesting one. You got me. I didn’t think we were even allowed to cut an injured player without an accompanying injury settlement. I think it’s possible that he refused the injury settlement and Beane said fuggit, bye bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, hemma said: You got me. I didn’t think we were even allowed to cut an injured player without an accompanying injury settlement. I think it’s possible that he refused the injury settlement and Beane said fuggit, bye bye. Thought the latest report was that he should be fit for the Rams. Only thing is if we’re going to put someone else on IR and bring him back. Perhaps he was the one chosen to go through that as he’s not as engrained with the Bills as Hart whilst I think I’m right in saying Sweeney, Lewis and McCloud would all go through waivers, so there was a risk that someone else would pick them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 To everyone concerned about Stevenson, Mancz, Hodgins, etc.......chill for a few minutes. There will be a lot of roster juggling and gamesmanship within the next few days that will allow the Bills to retain players they feel have potential and may end up on the 53 at some point. There's some risk when attempting to sneak prospects through waivers* to put on the practice squad, but that's the price you pay when you've assembled a playoff caliber team. The NFL is structured to have competitive teams and a certain degree of parity. The 53 you see this morning will not be the same 53 we see Sept 8. *correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's kind of how the Bills ended up with Jack Kemp. He was with the Chargers, got injured, then was waived. The Chargers assumed they could bring him back onto 'the taxi squad' (or whatever their version of injured reserve was at that time) after clearing waivers. But their plan didn't work out for them. DOH! Instead, Lou Saban put in a claim, the Bills paid the $100 waiver fee, and the rest is (AFL) history. You win some, you lose some. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Thoughts: Gotta feel for Mike Love. Has been with the team for four years now - works hard, plays well - and gets cut every time. Disappointed in keeping Sweeney over Howard. Gave a guy who is still a physical specimen a guaranteed $3 million contract only to cut him for a guy with limited talent who has already peaked. Not the smartest. With Bobby Hart and Greg Van Roten, we might have the worst OLine depth in the league. God help this team if one or more of our starting OLinemen are injured. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Yes, but don’t you know? EVERY team in the league has this problem. 😅 They do. Name teams that have great OL depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 8 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: I’m really bummed about Tre. Not that he’s not ready, as a PUP-er, he can’t even practice for the 4 weeks. Perhaps the brass was as hopeful as I was, having stated several times ‘he’s on course, he’s looking very good, we’re just waiting on the med staff to give us the OK’. Now? It seems we won’t see him til at least after the Bye -missing ALL of what’s considered the toughest part of our schedule. Dane Jackson and rookies?? 🤦♂️ Devastating. As good as Tre is, there's plenty of support in the secondary with Poyer, Hyde, T. Johnson, and mid-field with our experienced LBs. With (hopefully) added pressure this year from the front 4 on the D line, it should make it easier for the secondary. They played pretty well after Thanksgiving last year without White. They're already improved at CB with the Levi Wallace's replacement(s). As long as the offense does as we expect, and the defense does their job, they'll be fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, Doc said: They do. Name teams that have great OL depth. Philly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Doc said: They do. Name teams that have great OL depth. I've mentioned before when Sirius was doing their camp tour Pat Kirwin raved about the job Beane did to have depth on the OL. He said if they lost their starting 5 they could still have players with starting experience at every position - there is not another team in the NFL that can say that. They had just came from Pats TC, and he said if they lost a starter they had NO ONE (his emphasis) behind the starters Edited August 31, 2022 by stevewin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said: Thoughts: Gotta feel for Mike Love. Has been with the team for four years now - works hard, plays well - and gets cut every time. Disappointed in keeping Sweeney over Howard. Gave a guy who is still a physical specimen a guaranteed $3 million contract only to cut him for a guy with limited talent who has already peaked. Not the smartest. With Bobby Hart and Greg Van Roten, we might have the worst OLine depth in the league. God help this team if one or more of our starting OLinemen are injured. I trust Kromer about who he needs. Guarantee you he wouldn't put this line in a bad position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 9 hours ago, mannc said: We’ll be ok…it’s one of the reasons we drafted Elam in round 1… Drafting Elam in the first round, i.e. a major long term investment, because Tre is recovering from injury to is not why they took a CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said: I trust Kromer about who he needs. Guarantee you he wouldn't put this line in a bad position Kromer has nothing to do with personnel. He works with what he's given. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Kromer has nothing to do with personnel. He works with what he's given. Yeah why would they talk to their position coaches about who plays those positions well, let's not get crazy here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said: Thoughts: Gotta feel for Mike Love. Has been with the team for four years now - works hard, plays well - and gets cut every time. Disappointed in keeping Sweeney over Howard. Gave a guy who is still a physical specimen a guaranteed $3 million contract only to cut him for a guy with limited talent who has already peaked. Not the smartest. With Bobby Hart and Greg Van Roten, we might have the worst OLine depth in the league. God help this team if one or more of our starting OLinemen are injured. That says more about the state of Howard’s ability than it does Sweeney’s. Bills took a shot that Howard had sufficiently recovered from injuries and regained the form that made him the number five overall pick in his draft. Unfortunately, he is a shadow of his former self. Sweeney outplayed him all summer. It’s as simple as that. Edited August 31, 2022 by K-9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Kromer has nothing to do with personnel. He works with what he's given. You think McDermott and Beane make the decisions alone then tell the co-ordinators to get on with it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Kromer has nothing to do with personnel. He works with what he's given. Kromer definitely has input regarding personnel. He's not cutting guys and signing guys. - that's Beane's job. But he is involved in evaluating guys and most likely has significant input on who they draft and sign. It's just how it works in the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: You think McDermott and Beane make the decisions alone then tell the co-ordinators to get on with it? They receive input from the coaches, obviously. But you really think it was Kromer's choice not to invest in better OLinemen? Maybe that 2nd round pick should've been spent on the best available OLineman. Maybe they should've invested more of their free agency money on OLinemen. Things like that are above Kromer's pay grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: They receive input from the coaches, obviously. But you really think it was Kromer's choice not to invest in better OLinemen? Maybe that 2nd round pick should've been spent on the best available OLineman. Maybe they should've invested more of their free agency money on OLinemen. Things like that are above Kromer's pay grade. Kromer would be instrumental in who was cut from the 53 I would imagine, as far as the O-Line goes. Agreed, McDermott and Beane make the final call on draft and trades and I doubt they can please all of the people all of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: They receive input from the coaches, obviously. But you really think it was Kromer's choice not to invest in better OLinemen? Maybe that 2nd round pick should've been spent on the best available OLineman. Maybe they should've invested more of their free agency money on OLinemen. Things like that are above Kromer's pay grade. You are changing the original position that was stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: You are changing the original position that was stated. "With Bobby Hart and Greg Van Roten, we might have the worst OLine depth in the league. God help this team if one or more of our starting OLinemen are injured." How am I changing the position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Their 2nd and 3rd round picks are head scratching to me… was a 3rd down back really necessary to use a 2nd round pick on?…. And a reserve LB in the 3rd for a defense already stacked? What if Edmunds is the odd man out? Us fans don't know what long-term planning is being considered. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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