CorkScrewHill Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: The bills kept Tyrel Dodson after he was accused and arrested for domestic violence He eventually plead guilty to misdemeanor disorderly conduct. Not certain the point you were making 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Haak was outta here even if they had to find a UKBillFan to punt. (you’re better than Barkley, right?) Oh definitely. 45 yards is a breeze… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: The bills kept Tyrel Dodson after he was accused and arrested for domestic violence Rape is domestic on violence on steroids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marck Posted August 28, 2022 Author Share Posted August 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: Congratulations on a LAMP. What are you talking about, if you have a problem with my post, say what it is 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Based on what we think we know we know, this was the right answer. Time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, marck said: What are you talking about, if you have a problem with my post, say what it is There two well-established, well-moderated threads for discussing this subject. Yours is what's known as a LAMP: "Look At My Post!" 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, BigDingus said: I mostly agree, but I'd still pump the breaks just a tiny bit, as we can't confirm for sure what they knew before even drafting him, or how much they knew the past couple months. Some reports suggest other teams were aware of certain things about this case pre-draft (hence the best punting prospect in ages being the 3rd off the board), and others say the Bills were made aware of aspects as early as June. I really don't know, but I'd just caution heaping too much praise right away. Still, they do deserve credit for moving on this quickly, and that is something I 100% support. They pretty much stated they and confirming with the NFL - the league had no knowledge by the draft. Even Matt’s agent knew nothing. Matt was not the best punting prospect in ages - that is absolutely BS. He had the best leg, but there were huge questions about his hang time, directional kicking, control over kicks to prevent touchbacks, and his speed to get punts off. Most pre-draft things had 3-4 punters that depending on what you wanted being his equal or better - including the 2 guys drafted before him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: The only misstep for me is cutting Haack over Araiza. If they knew this was hanging over the latter, why cut the former when they did? Because he sucks !!?? Edited August 28, 2022 by Putin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, BigDingus said: I mostly agree, but I'd still pump the breaks just a tiny bit, as we can't confirm for sure what they knew before even drafting him, or how much they knew the past couple months. Some reports suggest other teams were aware of certain things about this case pre-draft (hence the best punting prospect in ages being the 3rd off the board), and others say the Bills were made aware of aspects as early as June. I really don't know, but I'd just caution heaping too much praise right away. Still, they do deserve credit for moving on this quickly, and that is something I 100% support. I agree with it. The Bills investigation team would have had to have known about it and raised a red flag; may be they raised it and Beane/McDermott ignored it. Also, the BIlls organisation would have shown MORE class if they had cut him before the Carolina game. MY worry is the fear in Beane and McDermott to let go of a player at a non-critical position with zero financial impact. I understand that the Bills are in general a very caring and empathy oriented organzation towards the players; But this one needed to show to players that at the end Beane and McDermott are the boss and they will be ruthless with things that bring disrepute to the Buffalo Bills. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: He eventually plead guilty to misdemeanor disorderly conduct. Not certain the point you were making I think it’s silly to say The bills are a class organization because they released MA When they have a alleged murderer on the wall of fame and another player with who got arrested for domestic abuse Now I’m not saying those things make them a classless organization… But They are a football organization They generally do what they think is in the best interest of the team… I didn’t think them keeping Dodson made them classless… Tho some certainly did And I don’t equate them cutting MA to class It was a business decision 35 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Rape is domestic on violence on steroids. Again I’m not Saying it isn’t … rape is obviously much much more serious I’m saying it’s hard call the bills a classy or classless organization based on one roster transaction We have an alleged murderer on the wall of fame Edited August 28, 2022 by Buffalo716 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Class would be cutting him because facts arose that showed he is guilty. Class would be sticking by someone who you believe is innocent in the face of media and Twitter mobs. Bills did neither of those things, but they did handle a horrible set of circumstances about as well as they could in the context of running a business. 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I think it’s silly to say The bills are a class organization because they released MA When they have a alleged murderer on the wall of fame and another player with who got arrested for domestic abuse Now I’m not saying those things make them a classless organization… But They are a football organization They generally do what they think is in the best interest of the team… I didn’t think them keeping Dodson made them classless… Tho some certainly did And I don’t equate them cutting MA to class It was a business decision Again I’m not Saying one is better than the other I’m saying it’s hard call the bills a classy or classless organization based on one roster transaction We have an alleged murderer on the wall of fame Acquitted. 20 years after he played. You don't have to like the acquittal, but you have to respect the law. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Yes they handled it well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Class would be cutting him because facts arose that showed he is guilty. Class would be sticking by someone who you believe is innocent in the face of media and Twitter mobs. Bills did neither of those things, but they did handle a horrible set of circumstances about as well as they could in the context of running a business. well said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, ganesh said: I agree with it. The Bills investigation team would have had to have known about it and raised a red flag; may be they raised it and Beane/McDermott ignored it. Also, the BIlls organisation would have shown MORE class if they had cut him before the Carolina game. MY worry is the fear in Beane and McDermott to let go of a player at a non-critical position with zero financial impact. I understand that the Bills are in general a very caring and empathy oriented organzation towards the players; But this one needed to show to players that at the end Beane and McDermott are the boss and they will be ruthless with things that bring disrepute to the Buffalo Bills. I don’t think you break that news in Carolina, you have to do it back home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Acquitted. 20 years after he played. You don't have to like the acquittal, but you have to respect the law. And Matt Ariza has not been charged with a crime yet Edited August 28, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, ExiledInIllinois said: Acquitted. 20 years after he played. You don't have to like the acquittal, but you have to respect the law. He did get convicted for other things later though, also was civilly liable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Class would be cutting him because facts arose that showed he is guilty. Class would be sticking by someone who you believe is innocent in the face of media and Twitter mobs. Bills did neither of those things, but they did handle a horrible set of circumstances about as well as they could in the context of running a business. Unless, based on the new information they have, they believe MA is destable human being. In that case, the classy thing is to cut him, even though they just built the punting game around his leg. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I think it’s silly to say The bills are a class organization because they released MA When they have a alleged murderer on the wall of fame and another player with who got arrested for domestic abuse Now I’m not saying those things make them a classless organization… But They are a football organization They generally do what they think is in the best interest of the team… I didn’t think them keeping Dodson made them classless… Tho some certainly did And I don’t equate them cutting MA to class It was a business decision Again I’m not Saying one is better than the other I’m saying it’s hard call the bills a classy or classless organization based on one roster transaction We have an alleged murderer on the wall of fame OJ did it ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 This is a terrible precedent for our country. People can and do lie, now anyone can just levy an accusation and it means you lose your job? Some people suggest that this is a private business, which is true, so they can handle it any way they need to. What if this was you and your job and someone were to hurl an accusation you know you didn’t do and you were let go? I’m not saying he’s innocent or not but we don’t have all the facts. I hope the Bills know something specific we don’t know and are moving on that. At this point it’s an accusation, and you can accuse a ham sandwich for anything. People here seem to be ok with lively hoods destroyed just for an accusation that may be proven false in the end. Sad state of affairs and actually the opposite of class. Class would have been letting it play out instead of jumping the gun, but here we are in todays backward world. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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