GoBills808 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: A radical gun law was enabled, you'd allow it? Is this true for all laws or just the ones you spirit? Do you champion the cause of every government ruling? Do you respect all laws or just the ones that embody your feelings? Never admit to owning guns on the internet. 😂😂they’re all registered. It’s not a secret in my state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 18 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I haven’t lost my mind at all. That wasn't directed at you. I'm talking about people that have decided they will use any form of civil unrest or violence to get what they want. I know most gun owners aren't like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: That wasn't directed at you. I'm talking about people that have decided they will use any form of civil unrest or violence to get what they want. I know most gun owners aren't like that. No, you don’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Do you champion the cause of every government ruling? Do you respect all laws or just the ones that embody your feelings? No I disagree with a lot of government policies. I've just never thought to "dare" a law enforcement officer to enforce the law against me. Only a certain type of nutjob would go there. Like I said it's mostly just anonymous internet bravado. Keyboards have made all of us so tough. 27 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: But, that's ok to him an thousands of others who don't respect the US Constitution. Changing the law is literally written into the Constitution. It's been done, oh, about 27 times now. Sorry but if your argument amounts to "the 2nd Amendment says so" you're not worth my time. Edited May 29, 2022 by HappyDays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 38 minutes ago, HappyDays said: No I disagree with a lot of government policies. I've just never thought to "dare" a law enforcement officer to enforce the law against me. Only a certain type of nutjob would go there. Like I said it's mostly just anonymous internet bravado. Keyboards have made all of us so tough. Changing the law is literally written into the Constitution. It's been done, oh, about 27 times now. Sorry but if your argument amounts to "the 2nd Amendment says so" you're not worth my time. I never said I was tough, nor am I trying to be tough or some tough... I know what I would do. You don't need to concern yourself with that, nor does anyone. The Constitution has only been amended 27 times in 250 some years and none of it doing much to alter firearms. And of those 27 times we have found that some of them have been repealed, it's an interesting conversation that could be had, there are many other places for it. I've said more than my piece here, there really isn't much more to discuss and respectfully disagree with your opinion and by sentiment of your posts then I believe we can agree to disagree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bad Things Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 US marks Memorial Day weekend with at least 11 mass shootings https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/us-canada/300601728/us-marks-memorial-day-weekend-with-at-least-11-mass-shootings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Bad Things said: US marks Memorial Day weekend with at least 11 mass shootings https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/us-canada/300601728/us-marks-memorial-day-weekend-with-at-least-11-mass-shootings What a dumb headline. Thanks, New Zealand! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 11:54 AM, Gugny said: As a veteran, I have always believed this notion of ex-military being better-equipped to handle firearms is absolutely ridiculous. First of all, some of the most ignorant and most stupid people I've ever known were those I served with. Secondly, for those vets with firearms training/experience, there's a decent chance that they could be suffering from PTSD to some extent. Why on earth do people think they're the best ones to provide semi-automatic weapons? And then have those people, with those weapons, IN OUR SCHOOLS? More guns is the answer to NOTHING. Semi-automatic weapons in ANYONE's hands is a continuous step backwards. Not to mention that vets have already been trained for a very different mission. Heres a little discussion of vets who are now police officers. https://www.themarshallproject.org/2018/10/15/police-with-military-experience-more-likely-to-shoot 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 16 hours ago, LeGOATski said: What a dumb headline. Thanks, New Zealand! The story was originally from the Washington Post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, Bad Things said: The story was originally from the Washington Post. Yeah...with a different headline. So you're a fan of sites that plagiarize and change the headline. Cool.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 31 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Yeah...with a different headline. So you're a fan of sites that plagiarize and change the headline. Cool.... Screw you, dude. I was simply sharing an article that was online. If it hurts your feelings, then that's on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, LeGOATski said: What a dumb headline. Thanks, New Zealand! Stuff headline: "US marks Memorial Day weekend with at least 11 mass shootings". If you actually read the entire news story instead of pretending it's trash, you would have noted that this story talked about the twelfth mass shooting that wasn't included in the database of mass shootings. 49 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Yeah...with a different headline. So you're a fan of sites that plagiarize and change the headline. Cool.... Washington Post Headline: "U.S. marks Memorial Day weekend with at least 12 mass shootings". The WP version was published on May 31 as an update of the original article by Annabelle Timsit published on May 30. Timsit was credited in both articles so there's no plagiarism involved. Now, to the pertinent issue, why exactly is the headline "dumb"? Since neither headline is untrue nor inflammatory, I have to believe that you think it's "dumb" because you dislike being reminded of the prevalence of gun violence in the US. I'm sure that you prefer that the mainstream US news media as well as the foreign news media kowtow to the NRA and their allies in the US media and government that pretend that gun violence is primarily a problem of inner city criminals engaging in criminal activities with illegal guns rather than a problem that can affect anybody at any time, in grocery stores, in schools, in fast food restaurant, at graduation parties, at Memorial Day events .... Edited May 31, 2022 by SoTier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 What the hell is going on here? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 57 minutes ago, HappyDays said: What the hell is going on here? They're in full "posterior protection" mode. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Coverup. Interesting how some police behave when they are not the ones issuing orders to comply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: What the hell is going on here? Seems like a massive cluster*****. Edited May 31, 2022 by Warcodered 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 3 hours ago, SoTier said: Stuff headline: "US marks Memorial Day weekend with at least 11 mass shootings". If you actually read the entire news story instead of pretending it's trash, you would have noted that this story talked about the twelfth mass shooting that wasn't included in the database of mass shootings. Washington Post Headline: "U.S. marks Memorial Day weekend with at least 12 mass shootings". The WP version was published on May 31 as an update of the original article by Annabelle Timsit published on May 30. Timsit was credited in both articles so there's no plagiarism involved. Now, to the pertinent issue, why exactly is the headline "dumb"? Since neither headline is untrue nor inflammatory, I have to believe that you think it's "dumb" because you dislike being reminded of the prevalence of gun violence in the US. I'm sure that you prefer that the mainstream US news media as well as the foreign news media kowtow to the NRA and their allies in the US media and government that pretend that gun violence is primarily a problem of inner city criminals engaging in criminal activities with illegal guns rather than a problem that can affect anybody at any time, in grocery stores, in schools, in fast food restaurant, at graduation parties, at Memorial Day events .... I own guns and am in favor of more restrictions. Feel free to look at my post history. I'm glad they've since updated it because it originally didn't link to the source material at all. It's the definition of plagiarism and people like @Bad Things are happy to blindly share that online. That's a problem for me. I work for a police department, not a police officer, but see and hear about the ***** things people do with and without guns every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 33 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Seems like a massive cluster*****. Part of me thinks they may have tried to use that one old guy as a scapegoat and end it quick, but the investigation may turn up details that place blame on others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Dr Phil McGraw will have a show special dealing with the Texas shooting tomorrow Wednesday check your local listings. Here is CBS 3pm pacific His tagline drew my eye........Prevention not Intervention. He mentioned in a brief snippet that school shootings occur within minutes of the breach of a school. That by then it's too late to really stop it. The ticket is stopping it before it ever gets started and identifying the potential perp PRE Violence. ***Applauds****** I'll be watching. very curious as to what they will all have to say. Especially now in view of the fiasco developing in the aftermath from the school district and Police Dept. He is from Texas himself and I dont know his politics. m 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: What the hell is going on here? Trying to limit their own liability YEP ....That to me seems a very tall hill...they are in trouble DEEP by all accounts. I mean from what we know it is BAD for the Police especially. its so sickening ..just the cherry to this whole event eh mates? SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 35 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: It's the definition of plagiarism and people like @Bad Things are happy to blindly share that online. That's a problem for me. The "definition" of plagiarism, huh? I posted a link to a reputable source, which showed their source. I don't think you know what you're talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UConn James Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 17 hours ago, HappyDays said: What the hell is going on here? Add obstruction of justice to whatever’s coming down the hill for all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, UConn James said: Add obstruction of justice to whatever’s coming down the hill for all of them. They will need lawyers and stop talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) I wonder if what occurred in Uvalde TX will show other police departments what not to do in the event they are faced with such a nightmare scenario themselves. We can only pray it does so that the very least it will help in training exercises in what TO do and especially what NOT do. The Uvalde Police have a fiasco on their hands. I would love something productive an positive come from this. It will never totally mitigate the tragedy but hopefully save lives in the future. Edited June 1, 2022 by muppy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 17 hours ago, HappyDays said: What the hell is going on here? Sounds like what's going on is they ***** up religiously and it's biting them hardcore in the ass. Lots of facts starting to come out disputing some of their statements and they probably stopped cooperating to get their story straight with everyone on the same page to keep them from looking even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 41 minutes ago, muppy said: I wonder if what occurred in Uvalde TX will show other police departments what not to do in the event they are faced with such a nightmare scenario themselves. We can only pray it does so that the very least it will help in training exercises in what TO do and especially what NOT do. The Uvalde Police have a fiasco on their hands. I would love something productive an positive come from this. It will never totally mitigate the tragedy but hopefully save lives in the future. And it was reported they had training and also had recently had drills for this. So I don't know, but doesn't look good for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 The thing is... According to what I read. A teacher went to their car for a cellphone OR something... They propped open a door. That's how the gunman got in. NOT sure how true this is...??? I am not looking to defend the police force here for might be their inaction... But it had to be a confusing situation on how the gunman got in. Didn't they think it was a "barricade" type situation. I guess it doesn't matter, how the gunman got in... He was in. But... The police couldn't even get in. They had to wondering how the gunman got in? Hope it serves to make the point... Safety rules like: "Don't prop open a door" EVER ... Are meant to protect people! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: The thing is... According to what I read. A teacher went to their car for a cellphone OR something... They propped open a door. That's how the gunman got in. NOT sure how true this is...??? It's been reported that was not true and door was closed 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Just now, Sheneneh Jenkins said: It's been reported that was not true and door was closed Thanks! Yikes. Amazing how all kinds of erroneous info gets spread. Sorry... And again, thanks for correcting it. Who would spread misinformation like that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Thanks! Yikes. Amazing how all kinds of erroneous info gets spread. Sorry... And again, thanks for correcting it. Who would spread misinformation like that! It was Uvalde official and just another on the list of statements from them that was disputed. I'll see if I can find the article again real quick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Thanks! Yikes. Amazing how all kinds of erroneous info gets spread. Sorry... And again, thanks for correcting it. Who would spread misinformation like that! https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-police-union-says-misinformation-144412466.html https://www.inquirer.com/news/nation-world/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-robb-elementary-door-20220601.html https://news.yahoo.com/uvalde-teacher-did-not-leave-210343526.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Thanks! Yikes. Amazing how all kinds of erroneous info gets spread. Sorry... And again, thanks for correcting it. Who would spread misinformation like that! The 1st link I posted at the top is about all the other disinformation/false statements. Other 2 is more about the door being propped open in general. Not for nothing, but they look even more silly with those Texas hats that they think makes them look all serious after how cowardly some of them were proven to be lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: The 1st link I posted at the top is about all the other disinformation/false statements. Other 2 is more about the door being propped open in general. Not for nothing, but they look even more silly with those Texas hats that they think makes them look all serious after how cowardly some of them were proven to be lol Funny you mention the hats. I had a similar thought watching them all standing around with those idiotic things on. I guess they are going for the Village People look. LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Haven't they always worn cowboy hats in Texas? What's with the newfound outrage towards hats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Haven't they always worn cowboy hats in Texas? What's with the newfound outrage towards hats? Exactly. It's practical... Hot down there and it keeps their little minded piths cool... Just imagine the chaos if they overheated! 😏 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Exactly. It's practical... Hot down there and it keeps their little minded piths cool... Just imagine the chaos if they overheated! 😏 They're gonna be overheated by those silly suits. Just sayin! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Haven't they always worn cowboy hats in Texas? What's with the newfound outrage towards hats? Not necessarily the hats in general. It's the fact that there's a lot of pride involved(so I've been told) for Texan's wearing those hats in law enforcement, rangers, whatnot representing courage etc and all that type of stuff. So it's more those with the hats on and not just the hats, when seeing the ones wearing them are basically front of the camera almost every news report standing there trying to be viewed as men of courage, pride etc when in fact it was they many of them showed the exact opposite and are being labeled as cowards, liars etc.. Edited June 1, 2022 by Sheneneh Jenkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 "All hat and no cattle" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bad Things said: "All hat and no cattle" all cojones and no huevos? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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