Milanos Milano Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rico said: Could be. I just think Lil Dirty’s spot on the roster is more secure than Crowder’s is. Both are very good and I’d be sad to see either cut. Crowder has over performed with subpar QBs. I think we make room for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: I could see Austin beating out McKenzie since they both offer similar skill sets but Austin might be a better return man. I can't see McK not on the roster myself, but never know what will happen I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, NewEra said: The Rams lost Bob Woods last season and still won the super bowl partly because they had 4 capable outside WRs at the time of the injury. If they had lost Aaron Donald or Jalen Ramsey they wouldn't have been so lucky. No team has great depth everywhere. The cap and limited draft picks means you have to accept some weak points. When you have the best QB in the league you can manage the loss of a starting outside WR better than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Given the propensity of our team to not cut draft picks. I feel like Kumerow will be the cut. But his ST is a major plus. Hodgins has had a nice camp so far. Not really what I would consider "camp" just yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Just now, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Not really what I would consider "camp" just yet though. Well meant mini camp. But yeah I know what you mean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: With how little we tend to cut draft picks. I’m willing to bet Kumerow is on the outside looking in and will be cut if it comes down to him and Hodgins. Why/how would Hodgins beat out Kumerow? Kumerow plays ST, and has gotten targets on offense. What reason would anyone have to believe that Hodgins (who has already missed practice time with an injury) would be above Kumerow on the depth chart? We really haven't heard anything significant about Hodgins since he was complimented (along with Davis) for knowing the playbook in his rookie training camp. IMO, it's more likely that Hodgins is competing for a spot on the PS. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: With how little we tend to cut draft picks. I’m willing to bet Kumerow is on the outside looking in and will be cut if it comes down to him and Hodgins. Kumerow has a better ABILITY than Hodgins... AVAIL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 I’m sure Beane will be making some trades during preseason, we have way too much talent on this 90 man roster to just cut players and get nothing in return. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Kumerow has a better ABILITY than Hodgins... AVAIL At the moment, I agree. But it’s going to come down to who has the better camp. There is a reason Hodgins has stuck around this long on the team. Obviously they see something in him and are just waiting for him to finally be healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yeah I think the lazy evaluation is to just assume that everything will fall into place and all ceiling reached because the Bills have Josh Allen. That's what you are going to get from national talking heads, IMO. What I see is a back 3-4 group that hasn't shown the ceiling to provide relief in the event of an injury to the top 2-3. If you know the significance of the numbers, there isn't a guy who you think, "this guy could put up a 700 yard season" if Davis or Diggs goes down for extended periods. It's a matchup league and that's what people forget in the offseason. Can guys like Kumerow get open against starting NFL CB's? On an individual basis this is a low ceiling group of reserves. Now one player could change that........but right now they are very thin on the outside, in particular. I don't think Kirwan and Miller are lazy. I see your concern about outside WR depth. I think you also add Knox and Cook to the overall passing offense equation, though. OJ Howard is a wild card. There are a few unknowns like Austin and Stevenson for speed...of course nobody is counting on them. I guess my overall perception is that the passing offense as a whole looks pretty strong to me, with decent depth. Outside WR is a concern if Diggs/Davis go down, but there are not many teams who can lose their #1 outside WR and "be fine." It's good to acknowledge potential areas of weakness on a team projected to go all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BADOLBILZ Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Warcodered said: What team has 4-5 WRs you'd be happy playing as your top 3? I'd settle for a 3rd. The reality is that the Bills outside WR options are: 1200 yard Diggs 550 yard Davis 28 yard Kumerow 578 yards is one of the lowest returning production 2+3 option combo's in the league. The Bills have a very distinct set of outside and slot receivers........on an increasing amount of teams there is a 3rd or 4th option who has the size and speed traits to succeed outside but also with the quickness to have potential in the slot. This is what the Bills clearly lack. When you weigh that with the reality that Davis has not yet proven he can get it done for 17 games without someone picking up half the slack or more.........this is why the Bills don't have an elite WR corps any longer. They are, on paper, clearly lesser than they were at this point last season. By about 700 yards of production on the outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, HappyDays said: Come on. You know better than this. No, I guess you will have explain to me how Beasley has not been more productive than Crowder in 3 of the last 4 seasons? He's literally had more catches and yards receiving than Crowder in 3 of the last 4 seasons. And obviously the last two. Just how far back do you want to go back to give the oft-injured Crowder credit for still being the same player he was? 1 season was fair. 2 seasons was decisive. I mean if you go all the way back to 2016 he and Tavon Austin put up over 1300 combined yards! Time in a bottle, baby! 4 hours ago, wppete said: I’m sure Beane will be making some trades during preseason, we have way too much talent on this 90 man roster to just cut players and get nothing in return. Yep.......Tavon Austin, Duke Johnson and Greg Mancz to the Jets for Breece Hall and a 3rd..........who says, no? Amirite @IronMaidenBills? Or are we afraid to face Tavon twice per year? Edited June 15, 2022 by BADOLBILZ changed 4th to a 3rd in the Hall trade.....Austin baby 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I'd settle for a 3rd. The reality is that the Bills outside WR options are: 1200 yard Diggs 550 yard Davis 28 yard Kumerow 578 yards is one of the lowest returning production 2+3 option combo's in the league. The Bills have a very distinct set of outside and slot receivers........on an increasing amount of teams there is a 3rd or 4th option who has the size and speed traits to succeed outside but also with the quickness to have potential in the slot. This is what the Bills clearly lack. When you weigh that with the reality that Davis has not yet proven he can get it done for 17 games without someone picking up half the slack or more.........this is why the Bills don't have an elite WR corps any longer. They are, on paper, clearly lesser than they were at this point last season. By about 700 yards of production on the outside. broo........... give it a rest ffs It is exhausting lol Let the season play out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 5 hours ago, The Jokeman said: I could see Austin beating out McKenzie since they both offer similar skill sets but Austin might be a better return man. If he beats out McKenzie it's because McDermott can't suffer another season of Lil' Dirty's unfocused antics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: If he beats out McKenzie it's because McDermott can't suffer another season of Lil' Dirty's unfocused antics. Everyone knows the 10 yard line is 0.012 inches higher than the rest of the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, CaliBills said: broo........... give it a rest ffs It is exhausting lol Let the season play out. I hear the BBMB is taking a "let's not discuss the team" approach to message boarding........perhaps you should sign up over there. And btw, speak when you are spoken to, broo. It looks idiotic and weak to refuse to support your position......as you chose........ but go then jump in to complain further later in the thread. Go away. Never hearda ya'. Edited June 15, 2022 by BADOLBILZ who is this idiot? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 5 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: Both are very good and I’d be sad to see either cut. Crowder has over performed with subpar QBs. I think we make room for both. I have absolutely no problem saying goodbye to ex-Jets. Then again, I wanted no part of Beasley on this team & he greatly exceeded my expectations, so I'm open to change my take if convinced otherwise on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Everyone knows the 10 yard line is 0.012 inches higher than the rest of the field. On the plus side he probably saved a touchdown by holding onto the ball all the way to the 14 yard line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Patrick Duffy Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: On the plus side he probably saved a touchdown by holding onto the ball all the way to the 14 yard line. Lol, I feel ya...yeah it was nerve rattling on just about each and every KR/PR much of the entire season. That said though, even with the few mistakes McK made he still was a threat to take it to the house any moment. He got some good chunk yardage returns fairly often too. But yeah, between him and Stevenson on KR/PR's, I don't see how every Bills fan didn't have ball security on their mind lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Tavon Austin has evolved to budding star… dude had 4 TDS in camp today brah. And wait til Kumerow rounds into form, bro-heim...........he had the greatest training camp in Bills history last year. Pads and live game action are overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Patrick Duffy Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Tavon Austin has evolved into budding star… dude had 4 TDS in camp today brah. Lol, yeah I mean if one makes more than needs to be in these situations while players are in shorts, 7 on 7 type drills etc, the thing for one to tell themselves is Nate Peterman at least did it when pads were on and into preseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Mastermind strategist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 53 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I hear the BBMB is taking a "let's not discuss the team" approach to message boarding........perhaps you should sign up over there. And btw, speak when you are spoken to, broo. It looks idiotic and weak to refuse to support your position......as you chose........ but go then jump in to complain further later in the thread. Go away. Never hearda ya'. hahah ok dokie there big boy. Let me bow down to the all mighty Badolbillz..... gtfo here.... I already commented how your arguments are invalid due to different variables. Just because you continue to ride high on your horse and beat it to death doesn't mean it garners any respect. You are basing your argument on last years numbers. Which is very idiotic (using your word) since according to that logic, Josh Allen would never improve because of last year or the year before or the year before that. Or there is no chance of Gabe Davis improving, or Knox, or anyone for that matter because of...... wait for it.... Last years numbers. Which means ABSOLUTLEY nothing going into this year. As I said, let the season play out. But whom am I to give any advice to the almighty BBMB poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ColoradoBills Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 7 hours ago, Logic said: What a shocker. The Pessimism Twins are on the same page on this topic and BADOL is telling me I’m wrong. The more things change… Lastly, BADOL, have you EVER been wrong? Like…even once? You must be on like a 40 or 50 year streak at this point. Very impressive. LOL, that's gold Logic, GOLD! Last year it was Beane and McDermott can't find a TE. This year it's WR3. 6 hours ago, HappyDays said: Come on. You know better than this. Past 3 years of NY Jet starting QBs. Darnold - 25 starts Wilson - 13 starts Flacco - 5 starts White - 3 starts Falk - 2 starts Siemian - 1 start Johnson - 1 relief game Compared to the Buffalo Bills QB for the last 3 seasons. Just some stats like Bado cited. LOL. I bet Crowder doesn't notice the difference. (sarcasm)! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: LOL, that's gold Logic, GOLD! Last year it was Beane and McDermott can't find a TE. This year it's WR3. Past 3 years of NY Jet starting QBs. Darnold - 25 starts Wilson - 13 starts Flacco - 5 starts White - 3 starts Falk - 2 starts Siemian - 1 start Johnson - 1 relief game Compared to the Buffalo Bills QB for the last 3 seasons. Just some stats like Bado cited. LOL. I bet Crowder doesn't notice the difference. (sarcasm)! I wonder how Beasley would have done in those schemes under those QBs with the Jets. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: C1 still being a clown 🤡 I see. Is he still looking for respect? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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