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Who are the players that you DON’T want the Bills to take in round 1?

 

For me:

Zion Johnson, Kenyon Green, Tyler Linderbaum: Good interior OL and that is a need, BUT not super special and IOL is not a premium position.  Of the 3, could maybe see Green because he could fill in at T in a pinch.

Jordon Davis: I’m not a full believer, but mainly the Bills have DT covered for this season.

Breece Hall or Kenneth Walker: they are good, not great prospects.  Without better OL play, no RB will really be much better than Singletary.

Any of the LBs - Unless they are moving on from Edmunds, no room this year.


For me, only positions for consideration (except for extreme value at another spot) are: CB or S that can play CB, OT or OT that can move to OG, WR (outside, or reluctantly a slot WR like Dotson)

 

 

 

 

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Good topic really for many of us I might bet.
 I think you have to look at linebacker to upgrade. 
Do agree about O lIne play and what it means to the running game. Hoping Kromer finds the answers for us. 

PS I think that Aaron Beach chairs Kromer coaching might be enough to "upgrade the line

OT/OG CB. No one will argue with you there 🙂 

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Christian Watson. A tall, fast kid who couldn't even dominate FCS competition, nor even put up 1,000 yards in a single season, and only had a total of 3 100yd games in 4 years. That's a negative Ghost Rider. 

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Imo, for this year, (because things change year to year) If they are not a serious threat to either score points for us, or prevent points being scored on us, on a nearly every play basis, they should pass on the player in the first round, but what do I know…

 

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I wouldn't draft a QB or kicker at all.  Probably no defensive linemen either.  I might draft a good punter in R7, but no higher. I'd also wait until the mid rounds at LB and S...maybe 5-7 on the latter. 

 

For me, RB, WR, TE, OL,  and CB would all be of at least some interest at 25 and for every round until addressed. 

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53 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Who are the players that you DON’T want the Bills to take in round 1?

 

For me:

Zion Johnson, Kenyon Green, Tyler Linderbaum: Good interior OL and that is a need, BUT not super special and IOL is not a premium position.  Of the 3, could maybe see Green because he could fill in at T in a pinch.

Jordon Davis: I’m not a full believer, but mainly the Bills have DT covered for this season.

Breece Hall or Kenneth Walker: they are good, not great prospects.  Without better OL play, no RB will really be much better than Singletary.

Any of the LBs - Unless they are moving on from Edmunds, no room this year.


For me, only positions for consideration (except for extreme value at another spot) are: CB or S that can play CB, OT or OT that can move to OG, WR (outside, or reluctantly a slot WR like Dotson)

 

 

 

 

Zion Johnson, Green and Lloyd at LB are definite possibilities. Could see the Bills playing a lot of 4-3, and Johnson and Greene could play a lot if starters get hurt. 

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2 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Who are the players that you DON’T want the Bills to take in round 1?

 

For me:

Zion Johnson, Kenyon Green, Tyler Linderbaum: Good interior OL and that is a need, BUT not super special and IOL is not a premium position.  Of the 3, could maybe see Green because he could fill in at T in a pinch.

Jordon Davis: I’m not a full believer, but mainly the Bills have DT covered for this season.

Breece Hall or Kenneth Walker: they are good, not great prospects.  Without better OL play, no RB will really be much better than Singletary.

Any of the LBs - Unless they are moving on from Edmunds, no room this year.


For me, only positions for consideration (except for extreme value at another spot) are: CB or S that can play CB, OT or OT that can move to OG, WR (outside, or reluctantly a slot WR like Dotson)

 

 

 

 

I think Jordan Davis might be a pocket crusher….If so, he value goes way up, imho…. You know, a guy, when you really need a play, can knock back a couple OL and mess up the play; a Ted Washington type. If he is that, I want him (though I don’t Billieve this regime would take him. And besides, we have questionable DTs…no stars on our DT spots as far as we know.

I have a big question re: these high rated Safeties. If they could play outside CB well, wouldn’t they be outside CBs? The more valuable position? If they can’t play outside, we don’t need them (unless we trade a Safety but then we’d still need a corner).

I really don’t know how good these guards are? If they are special in both run and pass blocking I’m very good with it; especially run blocking. A great pulling LG that can also handle power rushers… I’d love it at 25. If you’re right and they aren’t special, I agree with you.

If there is any chance either top back is there in the second, I think I’d pull the trigger….

 

My dream finish to this offseason: Sign Gilmore for two years at something reasonable (this may be impossible but it is a dream).

Draft BEst WR available, probably Watson. His ceiling makes me super excited… 2nd rd. Somehow Hall falls to 57. 3rd rd. Best CB available (almost all scenarios still have a quality prospect nearly of talent of the second round choices). 4th rd. Best OG available…Beane strikes gold on the OL again.

5th LB. We need competition for the backup roles.  6th P, If we have a shot at a great one otherwise the seventh 6th OT we need competition for Doyle 7th CB….. both outside corners, if they’re out in the 7th take a S. We’re good at slot.

 

I don’t see how we don’t win it all this way….. I think we need it all to build a great team.

 

 

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2 hours ago, CNY315 said:

CB or WR

 

you do not want CB or WR in the first?

1 hour ago, Max Fischer said:

Zion Johnson, Green and Lloyd at LB are definite possibilities. Could see the Bills playing a lot of 4-3, and Johnson and Greene could play a lot if starters get hurt. 

 

It's very likely good value at OL or LB is going to fall to 25. if really going BPA that is a strong possibility.

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3 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Who are the players that you DON’T want the Bills to take in round 1?

 

For me:

Zion Johnson, Kenyon Green, Tyler Linderbaum: Good interior OL and that is a need, BUT not super special and IOL is not a premium position.  Of the 3, could maybe see Green because he could fill in at T in a pinch.

Jordon Davis: I’m not a full believer, but mainly the Bills have DT covered for this season.

Breece Hall or Kenneth Walker: they are good, not great prospects.  Without better OL play, no RB will really be much better than Singletary.

Any of the LBs - Unless they are moving on from Edmunds, no room this year.


For me, only positions for consideration (except for extreme value at another spot) are: CB or S that can play CB, OT or OT that can move to OG, WR (outside, or reluctantly a slot WR like Dotson)

 

 

 

 

I’m not against any positions; especially trench players. An all pro or multiple probowl trench Player on either side of the ball is 100% worth the 25th pick in the draft. Particularly when they’ll be locked into a low cost 5-year contract.

 

LBer can be considered cost control on a necessary position. As much as Edmunds is solid, his lack of splash plays and intuition means that a player coating $3MM a year may be much better value than Edmunds at $10MM+ a year. 

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