JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Josh Allen as a HB. But really I’ll say Chase, especially with how the market has gone this off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yea I am the opposite, though I don't think TJ is a ridiculous answer by any means, he is clearly elite. I just think Myles is more gifted. You have repeated the Darnold mistake!! Lmao, it keeps auto correcting to Darnold. I know it’s Donald, he’s one of favorite non-Bills players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 14 hours ago, FireChans said: Kirk Cousins vs Joe Burrow? Cousins can't help a WR put up huge numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Based on what the Fish paid for Tyreek Hill, the answer is Tyreek Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Aaron Charles Donald JJ Watt Joey and Nick Bosa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Based on age which means obviously you have so many more years with them I'd say Parsons and Kyle pitts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Rashaan Gary and Maxx Crosby actually grade out higher than Watt or the Bosa's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: That doesn’t really make him more disruptive though. Makes him more valuable one could say, but being more disruptive would equate to more sacks, pressures, forced fumbles, tackles, etc. And TJ is doing at the highest rate in the NFL right now. I get the value of getting what Donald brings from the DT position, and he’s arguably the best DT of all time and one of the best defensive players overall of all time. But as it equates to the question of the OP, his age and retirement rumors would hurt his trade value. When was the last time you saw TJ Watt blocked by 3 Offensive Linemen and the RB? Because it happens to Donald semi-frequently apparently(see pictures below) Donald is double teamed+ on 70% of his snaps, TJ Watt on only 15%. "Aaron Donald Stats Aaron Donald was double-teamed a record 70% of all plays throughout the season, which he beat 27% of the time. T.J. Watt on the other hand, only get double-teamed 15% of all plays. The problem is, the statistics that J.J. Watt put up in support of his brother only tell half the story. They ignore the attention that AD gets from the offensive line." https://thesportsrush.com/nfl-news-t-j-watt-led-nfl-in-every-major-category-j-j-watt-thinks-t-j-watt-deserve-dpoy-over-aaron-donald/ Edited March 30, 2022 by Big Turk 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 54 minutes ago, White Linen said: Cousins can't help a WR put up huge numbers? Sure he can but I’d rather have Joe Burrow. He had an OUTRAGEOUS 8.9 YPA last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 15 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: TJ Watt and isn't even close. He has a huge contact now, while great talents like Chase are not a burden to a team's salary cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Big Turk said: When was the last time you saw TJ Watt blocked by 3 Offensive Linemen and the RB? Because it happens to Donald semi-frequently apparently(see pictures below) Donald is double teamed+ on 70% of his snaps, TJ Watt on only 15%. "Aaron Donald Stats Aaron Donald was double-teamed a record 70% of all plays throughout the season, which he beat 27% of the time. T.J. Watt on the other hand, only get double-teamed 15% of all plays. The problem is, the statistics that J.J. Watt put up in support of his brother only tell half the story. They ignore the attention that AD gets from the offensive line." It is a fact that interior players get doubled more. A lot of plays are specifically designed to double defensive tackles, whoever they are, so disruptive ones like Donald get particular attention. Ed Oliver was the 6th most doubled defender in the NFL in 2021, for example. But then even among the big name outside rushers TJ gets doubled less than a lot of other guys. The Steelers are very good at scheming him into 1v1 situations. That shouldn't be held against him in any major way but when you compare him to Donald and Garrett who beat double teams consistently it should be factored into the discussion alongside the bald production numbers to get a proper holistic view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Since the question is non QB, I’d have to agree it’s Donald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 16 hours ago, Allen2Diggs said: I would say Micah Parsons. DROY 13 Sacks Still 3 years on his rookie deal Cap hit under $4 Million This is my vote as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 4 hours ago, FireChans said: Sure he can but I’d rather have Joe Burrow. He had an OUTRAGEOUS 8.9 YPA last year. Oh cmon, you dismissed him like its some no brainer. He's no slouch and has been throwing guys into huge numbers for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Anybody saying Chase Young has not been paying attention to Chase Young. He had 1.5 sacks total last year and was consistently out of position and a legit liability on the field…. and you guys think he’s the BEST young player in the NFL? No. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 19 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Don't know about "not even close". Aaron Donald should be close, Bosa too for that matter Donald might even be a better option. Saying it’s not even close when Aaron Donald still plays football is laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 5 hours ago, FireChans said: Sure he can but I’d rather have Joe Burrow. He had an OUTRAGEOUS 8.9 YPA last year. That is an insane YPA...that's what happens when you give an outstanding young quarterback an absolute monster WR1...and a damn good WR2. That's why I want the Bills to take Christian Watson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, White Linen said: Oh cmon, you dismissed him like its some no brainer. He's no slouch and has been throwing guys into huge numbers for a long time. I mean, Joe Burrow is way better than Kirk Cousins. Who could argue this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, FireChans said: I mean, Joe Burrow is way better than Kirk Cousins. Who could argue this? Way better, no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 #1 -Aaron Donald.......doubled teamed 70% of time.....cincy triple teamed him (that retirement talk is just contract posturing) #2 - TJ Watt is there even a recent example of a young superstar non-qb getting traded while still on his rookie deal ?? obviously we have tyreek hill and devonte adams for comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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