Jump to content

How much did you pay for gas and groceries today?


Recommended Posts

1 minute ago, Buffarukus said:

around carring rags on their face they pull out their pocket declared was prevention of spread? 

most healthcare providers, including me wore std surgical masks almost continuously when working during covid.  n95's were reserved for direct contact....but let's keep playing.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

most healthcare providers, including me wore std surgical masks almost continuously when working during covid.  n95's were reserved for direct contact....but let's keep playing.

 

If what we are playing is missing the point of the post by bringing up a pointless detail...sure im in. 

 

Tomatoes are fruits. 

 

Your up.

  • Like (+1) 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Buffarukus said:

 

If what we are playing is missing the point of the post by bringing up a pointless detail...sure im in. 

 

Tomatoes are fruits. 

 

Your up.

i'm pretty sure it was you who broached this subject

 

You claim to be a doctor and dont know the difference between n95 grade mask and intense sanitation standards are required and what idiots who walked around carring rags on their face they pull out their pocket declared was prevention of spread? 

 

but sure.  I'll play this game too.

 

MAGA's are stupid.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

i'm pretty sure it was you who broached this subject

 

You claim to be a doctor and dont know the difference between n95 grade mask and intense sanitation standards are required and what idiots who walked around carring rags on their face they pull out their pocket declared was prevention of spread? 

 

but sure.  I'll play this game too.

 

MAGA's are stupid.

You must of been a a real ***** dr if you were ever one at all. 

  • Like (+1) 1
  • Haha (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

i'm pretty sure it was you who broached this subject

 

You claim to be a doctor and dont know the difference between n95 grade mask and intense sanitation standards are required and what idiots who walked around carring rags on their face they pull out their pocket declared was prevention of spread? 

 

but sure.  I'll play this game too.

 

MAGA's are stupid.

 

So you felt you should interject a detail on mask type instead of the point democrats were calling people murders and strapping little bitty hankerchiefs on their toddlers because they were commanded it was equivalent to ACTUAL preventive measures necessary to stop contraction of a contagious air born virus. 

 

You felt bad i questioned your knowledge of sanitation practices and wanted to flex a bit on knowlege. But as for the topic. You know im right and have still to contrast the republican response that was comparably stupid. 

 

So your pointless detail is incorrect.

 

 1-0 i win 💪

Edited by Buffarukus
  • Awesome! (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 10/6/2023 at 10:53 AM, Joe Ferguson forever said:

 

Yah it may drop but it's still some dollar higher than it was in 2020 & now we have little to no reserves since our illustrious leader depleted them . And with the cost of everything else going up fuel prices won't stay down long .

 

A 2100 sq ft house around nashville is going for $600k I looked at 16 acres least month with a run down house on it they were wanting $800K for you add to that the auto workers wanting more money & trucks now going for $85 & $90K this is not sustainable even if they pay Mcdonald's workers $15 a hr . 

 

It all comes back to bad leadership one that has no business mentality just agenda's .

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, T master said:

 

Yah it may drop but it's still some dollar higher than it was in 2020 & now we have little to no reserves since our illustrious leader depleted them . And with the cost of everything else going up fuel prices won't stay down long .

 

A 2100 sq ft house around nashville is going for $600k I looked at 16 acres least month with a run down house on it they were wanting $800K for you add to that the auto workers wanting more money & trucks now going for $85 & $90K this is not sustainable even if they pay Mcdonald's workers $15 a hr . 

 

It all comes back to bad leadership one that has no business mentality just agenda's .

Nashville is super expensive.  It's like the place all the cool kids wanna live.  But our outlook is improving with oil (well, at least til the middle east blew up)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Nashville is super expensive.  It's like the place all the cool kids wanna live.  But our outlook is improving with oil (well, at least til the middle east blew up)

 

Oh i agree Nashville is as they say the "It City" but everything is relative & i hope you are right as far as the cost of fuels coming down but this president isn't helping things very much his business acumen is very low . 

  • Like (+1) 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, T master said:

 

Oh i agree Nashville is as they say the "It City" but everything is relative & i hope you are right as far as the cost of fuels coming down but this president isn't helping things very much his business acumen is very low . 

watch crude hit 150 a barrel with due to what we just saw in israel.

 

 

  • Agree 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, T master said:

Oh i agree Nashville is as they say the "It City" but everything is relative & i hope you are right as far as the cost of fuels coming down but this president isn't helping things very much his business acumen is very low . 

 

Analyst predictions/opinions are like...

 

5 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

watch crude hit 150 a barrel with due to what we just saw in israel.

 

Yeah, good luck with crude oil prices dropping now...

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

3c06e4fc-4caa-4537-bed0-49559b79fb6b-105

 

AP Tries and Fails to Convince Americans They've Seen a 'Surge in Wealth' Since 2020

 

 

President Biden's polling numbers on the economy (and many other things) are dismal. According to the White House and their friendlies in the media that's because most Americans are incapable of grasping how Bidenomics has turned the country into an economic utopia.

 

The Associated Press has continued to do the heavy lifting on behalf of this administration heading into an election next year: 

 

The people who wrote that story probably don't even believe it but they know what their job is, and it isn't actual journalism. 

 

 

https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/10/19/aps-effort-to-convince-americans-theyve-seen-a-surge-in-wealth-since-2020-is-an-epic-fail-n2388754

  • Haha (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

3c06e4fc-4caa-4537-bed0-49559b79fb6b-105

 

AP Tries and Fails to Convince Americans They've Seen a 'Surge in Wealth' Since 2020

 

 

President Biden's polling numbers on the economy (and many other things) are dismal. According to the White House and their friendlies in the media that's because most Americans are incapable of grasping how Bidenomics has turned the country into an economic utopia.

 

The Associated Press has continued to do the heavy lifting on behalf of this administration heading into an election next year: 

 

The people who wrote that story probably don't even believe it but they know what their job is, and it isn't actual journalism. 

 

 

https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/10/19/aps-effort-to-convince-americans-theyve-seen-a-surge-in-wealth-since-2020-is-an-epic-fail-n2388754

I guess the surge in wealth bypassed the Bonnie grads.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The president doesn’t control the price of gas
 

If you wanna blame somebody for gas prices, look at the people that are making sure that their shareholders are happy

 

Unless you’re suggesting that we nationalize oil which might actually have an affect on the price keep in mind that there’s another side of nationalizing oil shareholders are not gonna be very happy because they’re not making as much money

 

Keep in mind that the bottom line of oil companies is money, not the amount of oil they actually produce

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

The president doesn’t control the price of gas
 

If you wanna blame somebody for gas prices, look at the people that are making sure that their shareholders are happy

 

Unless you’re suggesting that we nationalize oil which might actually have an affect on the price keep in mind that there’s another side of nationalizing oil shareholders are not gonna be very happy because they’re not making as much money

 

Keep in mind that the bottom line of oil companies is money, not the amount of oil they actually produce

 

The government absolutely impacts the price of gas and other refined products.

It does so directly via taxes and regulations regarding drilling, refining, transporting and controls leasing and drilling permits.

 

It does so indirectly by making comments like no drilling on Federal Land. 

 

By the way, the "people who are "making their shareholders are happy," have a fiduciary responsibility to those shareholders.

Thus, they are legally bound to act in shareholder interests.

 

Nationalize the energy industry?

sure.

Worked great for the Venezuelans.

Edited by sherpa
  • Thank you (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, sherpa said:

 

The government absolutely impacts the price of gas and other refined products.

It does so directly via taxes and regulations regarding drilling, refining, transporting and controls leasing and drilling permits.

 

It does so indirectly by making comments like no drilling on Federal Land. 

 

By the way, the "people who are "making their shareholders are happy," have a fiduciary responsibility to those shareholders.

Thus, they are legally bound to act in shareholder interests.

There are literally drill permits in the United States. They’re being sat on, and not being used by those who own them 

 

Unless we nationalize oil, we have absolutely no control over it

  • Vomit 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

44 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

There are literally drill permits in the United States. They’re being sat on, and not being used by those who own them 

 

Unless we nationalize oil, we have absolutely no control over it

Why would they sit on them?

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

55 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

There are literally drill permits in the United States. They’re being sat on, and not being used by those who own them 

 

Unless we nationalize oil, we have absolutely no control over it

 

Of course there are leases and permits that are not being used, and for very good reasons.

It is nonsense to claim the gov has no control regarding price.

Tax policy and the regulatory environment impact it immensely.

 

In addition, the managing of the Strategic Petroleum reserve can have a significant impact.

Remember when Biden sold off nearly half of it before the mid terms?

Treasury estimated that brief supply dump lowered pump prices by 40 cents per gallon, though briefly.

 

In addition, trying to strong arm OPEC and Saudi Arabia in particular has had impacts on supply in the past.

Remember when Biden pleaded with SA to not limit production, then when they said no he asked them to wait until after the mid terms?

They don't "control" the price. don't control the price, but they significantly impact it.

  • Like (+1) 1
  • Thank you (+1) 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The president has no control over gas prices.. 

 

Unless it's a midterm election year, in which case you simply drain the strategic oil reserves in order to lower them. Bonus points if the reserves run dry while simultaneously being engaged in a proxy war with a nuclear power. 

 

Or unless  you relax oil sanctions imposed on hostile nation to increase global supply. Bonus points if the hostile nation uses the money to destabilize the region and fund jihad against a country you are aligned with, thus dragging you into a second proxy war.

 

These would generally be considered outliers however. 

  • Like (+1) 1
  • Haha (+1) 1
  • Thank you (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said:

Why would they sit on them?

Because they don’t make more money by drilling them

 

A quick Google search of this will confirm what I said. There are a bunch of land permits, particularly in Texas that are not be drilled on even though they have clearance.

 

Whenever you look at it from this point of you oil companies, don’t care that gas is manageable for you. They only care about how much money they’re making. That’s why they jack up the price per barrel because they know that we will pay it.

 

Personally, I think we’re going the wrong way with this whole electric car deal. They are not advertising it in a way that makes it positive to the consumer what they need to be doing is building cars that are both electrical and have a gas tank because electrical would make it cheaper per day while you’re commuting and gas tanks. Could be there for whenever you’re taking longer trips that’s the way I would like to see things going for new cars 

  • Haha (+1) 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Because they don’t make more money by drilling them

 

A quick Google search of this will confirm what I said. There are a bunch of land permits, particularly in Texas that are not be drilled on even though they have clearance.

 

Whenever you look at it from this point of you oil companies, don’t care that gas is manageable for you. They only care about how much money they’re making. That’s why they jack up the price per barrel because they know that we will pay it.

 

Personally, I think we’re going the wrong way with this whole electric car deal. They are not advertising it in a way that makes it positive to the consumer what they need to be doing is building cars that are both electrical and have a gas tank because electrical would make it cheaper per day while you’re commuting and gas tanks. Could be there for whenever you’re taking longer trips that’s the way I would like to see things going for new cars 

Oil takes time to drill, get out of ground, and then refine. This administration has been openly hostile to the industry and why invest if you don't know you can make a profit, especially when this slow walk makes it more profitable per gallon. If you don't think they have been openly hostile I can't discuss with you because one of his campaign promises was to get rid of oil 

  • Like (+1) 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Oil takes time to drill, get out of ground, and then refine. This administration has been openly hostile to the industry and why invest if you don't know you can make a profit, especially when this slow walk makes it more profitable per gallon. If you don't think they have been openly hostile I can't discuss with you because one of his campaign promises was to get rid of oil 

Oh no I agree that we have been openly hostile to it. We’re trying to get away from it.

  • Vomit 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Oil: the problem is our friends, the Saudis.

They control OPEC, and manipulate production (and hence prices) in a cartel that would be illegal in the United States under antitrust laws.

Right now, they're restraining production to raise prices. Ordinarily this would give U.S. producers and incentive to drill, drill, drill in oil fields where the cost of production is higher; with high oil prices, higher cost oil from those fields would still be profitable.

But what will the Saudis do if U.S. (Canadian and other too) oil production starts to spike? They'll open the Saudi spigot (and get Russia and others to go along) and lower oil prices, making all those investments in U.S. higher cost oil a waste of money.

The solution would lie in expanding something like antitrust laws to OPEC. It wouldn't be antitrust, but a sizable tariff on OPEC oil could provide the certainty U.S. drillers need by incentivizing U.S. production. But neither party will do that because in the short run it would mean higher price oil.

Yes, our friends the Saudis have us over a barrel ...

  • Haha (+1) 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Can we stop thjs nonsense?

We can blame the Saudis until sunset, and it makes no sense and doesn't matter.

We can be completely energy independent if we had the desire to do so.

 

This administration has been father to grossly incoherent and inconsistent energy policy.

Campaign promise to end all drilling.

Further promise to end all drilling on Federal land, and then approving the Willow project in Alaska.

 

Gross delays in getting permits on existing, approved leases, then claiming that this situation is the result of oil companies.

Altering refining and transportation regulations.

Nonsense.

 

It takes years, sometimes near a decade,  to bring an existing lease/permit to production, and immense capital expenditure.

The people who make those decisions are not stupid nor unpatriotic.

They deal with a current Federal Gov and regulatory environment that is a windsock based on perceived voter response, hence the stupid release of 40% of the SPR prior to the midterms when polling indicated people were getting angry.

 

The energy industry is extremely complex.

From exploration, to discovery to lease and permit applications, to building infrastructure, to production and refining decisions regarding crack spreads, (for the uninitiated, that is the decision to refine crude to it's final product of light/medium or heavy final product, which means deciding to refine it to gas/jet fuel/diesel/heating oil/propane/grease ect.), to transportation, and hedging all of that with options and futures, which those companies and those that are heavily dependent on energy costs do is a very complicated and risky business.

Engaging in it is made much more difficult when the next gov edict is anyone's guess.

 

The people who do that are not evil. It is the environment in which they work.

 

  • Like (+1) 1
  • Thank you (+1) 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said:

So if you knew the real reason then why pretend it was something else?

 

And whine about the results they desired and guaranteed.

 

Ignorance or stupidity, one or the other, and we pay the price, as always.

  • Like (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, Pabstblueribbon said:

Declares war on an entire sector of the US economy and then implies youre a socialist if you tell them to stop it so you can afford to heat your home. 

 

Yeah.  It's not "Hey government, make things cheaper!" it's "Hey government, stop making things more expensive!"

  • Thank you (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

 

BOO: Cost Of Halloween Candy Is Up 13% This Year.

 

UCLA supply-chain expert Professor Christopher Tang says candy is so expensive because of the cost of ingredients.

 

It’s also because these products are mainly made in the United States.

 

“The labor cost has gone up a lot because of inflation,” Tang said. “The workers need to have a higher income so that they can survive.”

 

“All the ingredients from wrapping paper to the basic ingredients like sugar, and also the cocoa beans that we have imported from Africa. So as a result, every single ingredient, element, and the wages are going up.”

 

According to the National Retail Federation, the average household will spend about $31.93 on candy this year – up from $25.91 last year.

 

https://abc7chicago.com/halloween-candy-cost-prices-inflation/13955494/

 

 

All the smartest people had assured me inflation was over.

 

 

  • Agree 1
  • Thank you (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

Candy Inflation Hits Double Digits for Second Halloween in a Row

 

U.S. consumers are dealing with double-digit Halloween candy inflation for the second year in a row, with prices being an average of 13 percent higher this month compared to last October.

 

Retail price tracker Datasembly’s latest Grocery Price Index, based on “data collected from over 150,000 stores that represent 200+ retail banners” across the nation, revealed the spooky numbers on October 11. The index shared that sweet treats inflation “over-indexes the entire Grocery category at 6.7 percent for the same time period.”

 

https://datasembly.com/grocery-price-index/

  • Thank you (+1) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Candy Inflation Hits Double Digits for Second Halloween in a Row

 

U.S. consumers are dealing with double-digit Halloween candy inflation for the second year in a row, with prices being an average of 13 percent higher this month compared to last October.

 

Retail price tracker Datasembly’s latest Grocery Price Index, based on “data collected from over 150,000 stores that represent 200+ retail banners” across the nation, revealed the spooky numbers on October 11. The index shared that sweet treats inflation “over-indexes the entire Grocery category at 6.7 percent for the same time period.”

 

https://datasembly.com/grocery-price-index/

Horde the cash. when this corrects, there is going to be some good buying opportunities. 

 

And not just candy.  

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

×
×
  • Create New...