How much did you pay for gas and groceries today?

[SoCal Deek]

Once again this month I paid nothing for gas. It cost me $12 to ‘fill the tank’ on my new electric vehicle yesterday. Not tryin to be an arse but I promised that I’d keep you abreast of my experience ….and so far I love it. 👍 The car is incredibly smooth to drive. 

[The Frankish Reich]

4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Once again this month I paid nothing for gas. It cost me $12 to ‘fill the tank’ on my new electric vehicle yesterday. Not tryin to be an arse but I promised that I’d keep you abreast of my experience ….and so far I love it. 👍 The car is incredibly smooth to drive. 

What did you buy? I'm thinking of doing what a lot of people are doing now: one larger gas engine vehicle for longer trips (the charging network is pretty sparse in the mountain west where I live), one EV for everything else. 

By the way: just paid $2.69 a gallon for gas. So it seems like SOME of this was "transitory" after all.

[Chef Jim]

6 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Once again this month I paid nothing for gas. It cost me $12 to ‘fill the tank’ on my new electric vehicle yesterday. Not tryin to be an arse but I promised that I’d keep you abreast of my experience ….and so far I love it. 👍 The car is incredibly smooth to drive. 

How much did you pay for it above a comparable gas vehicle?  What’s the life of your battery and what’s the replacement cost?  How much of a B word would it be to drive it north to SF or OR or WA?  

[SoCal Deek]

17 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

How much did you pay for it above a comparable gas vehicle?  What’s the life of your battery and what’s the replacement cost?  How much of a B word would it be to drive it north to SF or OR or WA?  

I bought the new all electric BMW i4….which is essentially a 4 Series with an electric motor. It’s reported to get 300 mile range on a full charge and so far that appears to be pretty accurate, although you’re told to set your charging limit to 80% to extend the battery life, which is rated at about seven to ten  years. Mine cost $53k (and yes I’m in the financial position to afford it). It’s a really great car. Super fast and incredibly smooth to drive. Maintenance costs are practically nothing. No fluids, or filters, or belts to change, and brakes last a really long time as the motor itself slows the car. 
 

I wouldn’t hesitate driving it to San Francisco from Los Angeles. You can stop at a fast charge station somewhere along the route for fifteen to twenty minutes to stretch your legs and recharge. But for the vast vast majority of the driving anyone does you just charge it at home in the garage overnight. It’s super convenient. 
 

I got it on somewhat of a whim just to try it out, and so far it’s a fantastic machine. 

Edited December 4, 2022 by SoCal Deek

[SoCal Deek]

19 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

What did you buy? I'm thinking of doing what a lot of people are doing now: one larger gas engine vehicle for longer trips (the charging network is pretty sparse in the mountain west where I live), one EV for everything else. 

By the way: just paid $2.69 a gallon for gas. So it seems like SOME of this was "transitory" after all.

We’re still paying $5.50 per gallon in California. And yes we have a gas vehicle as well at home, but I’m guessing you’ll see a more robust charging network develop soon. Just like you’d have seen with gas stations 100 years ago. They’re  everywhere in So Cal. 

[Chef Jim]

11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I bought the new all electric BMW i4….which is essentially a 4 Series with an electric motor. It’s reported to get 300 mile range on a full charge and so far that appears to be pretty accurate, although you’re told to set your charging limit to 80% to extend the battery life, which is rated at about seven to ten  years. Mine cost $53k (and yes I’m in the financial position to afford it). It’s a really great car. Super fast and incredibly smooth to drive. Maintenance costs are practically nothing. No fluids, or filters, or belts to change, and brakes last a really long time as the motor itself slows the car. 
 

I wouldn’t hesitate driving it to San Francisco from Los Angeles. You can stop at a fast charge station somewhere along the route for fifteen to twenty minutes to stretch your legs and recharge. But for the vast vast majority of the driving anyone does you just charge it at home in the garage overnight. It’s super convenient. 
 

I got it on somewhat of a whim just to try it out, and so far it’s a fantastic machine. 

And they seem to me at this point to be good for local driving and commuting so you can charge over night in your garage overnight.  I’ve heard horror stories about long trips however due to lack of charging stations and the time it takes at some of them. 
 

I have a 6-series and just got a new battery installed. Cost about $750.  I was just wondering how much to replace one in an EV.  

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, Chef Jim said:

And they seem to me at this point to be good for local driving and commuting so you can charge over night in your garage overnight.  I’ve heard horror stories about long trips however due to lack of charging stations and the time it takes at some of them. 
 

I have a 6-series and just got a new battery installed. Cost about $750.  I was just wondering how much to replace one in an EV.  

Malibu to Palm Springs this past weekend without a care in the world. 👍I’ve had two 5 Series over the years so I knew I could rely on the quality of the vehicle. Go to the Palm Desert dealer and check out the i4….if they even have one. I’m guessing you’ll be super impressed. Step on the ‘gas’ and it’ll push you back in your seat! 

[Chef Jim]

12 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Malibu to Palm Springs this past weekend without a care in the world. 👍I’ve had two 5 Series over the years so I knew I could rely on the quality of the vehicle. Go to the Palm Desert dealer and check out the i4….if they even have one. I’m guessing you’ll be super impressed. Step on the ‘gas’ and it’ll push you back in your seat! 

Thanks for the advice but I don’t need any advice.  😁

 

 I’ve got 120k on mine and driving it until the wheels fall off. 

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

Thanks for the advice but I don’t need any advice.  😁

 

 I’ve got 120k on mine and driving it until the wheels fall off. 

I had 170k on my latest 5 Series when I traded it in. A good number of which were amassed while I was waiting 9 months for the new car. 🙄 

[RiotAct]

My homeowner’s insurance went up $100 for next year.

 

Eggs - $4 a dozen at Wegs now.

 

 

But hey, abortion rights!!!

[gobilz]

Joe paid for mine 

 

[TSOL]

3 hours ago, RiotAct said:

My homeowner’s insurance went up $100 for next year.

 

Eggs - $4 a dozen at Wegs now.

 

 

But hey, abortion rights!!!

 

 

The cheapest eggs at Tops were 4.79 today and another surprising price today was tops brand canola oil, the smallest bottle was 3.79 which seemed very high. 

 

My car insurance has increased $25 a month as well. 

 

Definitely putting the squeeze on the working class.

 

Also, don't forget the strategic oil reserve trick is about to run out, Russian oil and energy is off the market now, they're the world's second largest supplier of energy, so I'm expecting things to get worse before they get better in '23. 

 

Tighten your chin straps kids, I think we are in for a bumpy ride. 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

[Tommy Callahan]

20 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Cant even. 

IF she is crying that hard at 120G a year.  imagine the folks at the median Houshold income (72G), and below are dealing. 

 

 

[Doc]

Many people can't live within their means.

[Big Blitz]

 

[T master]

On 3/13/2022 at 11:24 PM, Big Blitz said:

Time to start documenting - I hope in a few months I'll be posting significant declines. 

 

But with this absolutely insane shift from "We really f...ed up covid and oh sorry the economy may really be fast tracked to disaster now" to "Russia Russia Russia cancel anyone that even watches Anastasia," something ain't right so I'm skeptical and concerned.  Beyond concerned.  They create crisis when they need you distracted.   

 

I hope we avoid all of it but we are either led by very stupid evil people or we're compromised by the only country on earth safe and protected from any criticism. 

 

And no one literally no one in your government is talking about it and how to fix it.  Just go buy an EV.  That's not concerning?  That doesn't tell you anything? 

 

In fact the buck stops with Brandon is now lashing out at you for even to dare blame him.  This is insane.  

 

 

Gas:  $48 on a car that had a 1/4 tank left

 

Target:  Literally 9 items - soap, a few things for dinner (sausage peppers potatoes), a bag of M&Ms, Lemon juice, and almost milk.   $50 

 

 

Not sustainable. 

 

And nothing more eye opening for people then to hear directly what everything is starting to cost.  

 

 

Another example of politicians trying to avoid answering a direct question numerous times & i love the way Brian Mass gets fed up with the BS of not just answering the simple question & tells the commit leader what to do with his BS we need many more congressmen like Brian & that's what some do not like !! 

[B-Man]

 

 

EVERYTHING IS GOING SWIMMINGLY: 

 

Soaring Food Prices Prompt Eurasian Nations To Ban Food Exports.

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/soaring-food-prices-prompt-eurasian-nations-ban-food-exports

 

 

 

 

Related: Looming food shortages is the next ‘slow-moving disaster’ to hit world. Not by accident.

 

https://nypost.com/2022/03/17/looming-food-shortages-is-worlds-next-slow-moving-disaster/

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

 

EVERYTHING IS GOING SWIMMINGLY: 

 

The U.S. Consumer Is Starting to Freak Out.

 

The engine of the U.S. economy—consumer spending—is starting to sputter.

 

Retail purchases have fallen in three of the past four months. Spending on services, including rent, haircuts and the bulk of bills, was flat in December, after adjusting for inflation, the worst monthly reading in nearly a year. Sales of existing homes in the U.S. fell last year to their lowest level since 2014 as mortgage rates rose. The auto industry posted its worst sales year in more than a decade.

 

It’s a stark turnaround from the second half of 2020, when Americans lifted the economy out of a pandemic downturn, helping the U.S. avoid what many economists worried would be a prolonged slump. Consumers snapped up exercise bikes, televisions and laptop computers for schoolchildren during lockdowns. When restrictions were lifted, they rushed back to their favorite restaurants and travel destinations.

 

And they kept spending, helped by government stimulus, flush savings accounts and cheap credit, even as inflation picked up. Faced with four-decade-high inflation last year, Americans outspent it. Through most of 2022, consumer spending growth exceeded price increases by about 2 percentage points.

 

Now the forces that helped keep spending high are unwinding, while inflation remains elevated.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-us-consumer-is-starting-to-freak-out/ar-AA16TXRy

 

 

 

“If something cannot go on forever, it will stop.”

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Hey, the price of gas is down, Joe really has inflation under control !!

 

 

 

 

 

There is no amount of spin they will be able to put out that will save them from looking feckless and incompetent

[Big Blitz]

 

 

Gas up to 3.60 in Northern Virginia.  
 

National up 30 cents in the last 60 days.  Memorial Day will be the excuse it’s back up over $4.  
 

Oh I just paid $10 at a local fast food spot for a “value meal” that used to cost 5.99.  

 

Minimum wage of course is now $12 here.  
 

But “Indict Trump Summer” to distract from you from not being able to afford anything, the continued Covid fallout, and in reality they actually want him to be the nominee and hope this gets him there. 

[Tommy Callahan]

The OPEC + countries cutting production is going to Hurt at the gas pump

 

 

 

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Gas up to 3.60 in Northern Virginia.  
 

National up 30 cents in the last 60 days.  Memorial Day will be the excuse it’s back up over $4.  
 

Oh I just paid $10 at a local fast food spot for a “value meal” that used to cost 5.99.  

 

Minimum wage of course is now $12 here.  
 

But “Indict Trump Summer” to distract from you from not being able to afford anything, the continued Covid fallout, and in reality they actually want him to be the nominee and hope this gets him there. 

Stop it Veruca! 😆 

 

 

 

 

Stop spending on crap! Stay home. Grow a Victory Garden. Wipe your ass with a page from the Sears Catalog (nevermind).

 

Maybe lose a few pounds.

 

Incredible.

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Gas up to 3.60 in Northern Virginia.  
 

National up 30 cents in the last 60 days.  Memorial Day will be the excuse it’s back up over $4.  
 

Oh I just paid $10 at a local fast food spot for a “value meal” that used to cost 5.99.  

 

Minimum wage of course is now $12 here.  
 

But “Indict Trump Summer” to distract from you from not being able to afford anything, the continued Covid fallout, and in reality they actually want him to be the nominee and hope this gets him there. 

 

Yup.  Distract from the shitshow the country has become.

[Tommy Callahan]

1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Stop it Veruca! 😆 

 

 

 

 

Stop spending on crap! Stay home. Grow a Victory Garden. Wipe your ass with a page from the Sears Catalog (nevermind).

 

Maybe lose a few pounds.

 

Incredible.

you actually said the "you will own nothing, and like it" outload.

 

Bidens economy is decimating the poor, fixed, working and middle class. 

 

but hey, grow a garden.

 

 Qu'ils mangent de la brioche?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 3, 2023 by Chris farley

[The Frankish Reich]

2 hours ago, Chris farley said:

The OPEC + countries cutting production is going to Hurt at the gas pump

 

 

 

 

 

Our friends the Saudis deliver again!

Oh, and by the way:

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/kushners-2-billion-investment-saudi-backed-fund-concealed-sec-rules-2023-2?amp

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Just gonna get worse...

Saudi Arabia’s Oil Production Cuts Reflect Cost of Reshaping Economy
 

An oil production cut by Saudi Arabia and its allies demonstrated how Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is willing to set aside U.S. concerns to pursue a nationalist energy policy aimed at funding an expensive makeover of his kingdom.

 

This weekend’s move came as a surprise after Saudi Energy Minister Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman told industry analysts privately in February that the kingdom would tolerate oil prices slipping to around $65 or $70 a barrel, according to analysts and Saudi officials familiar with the matter. Brent crude, the international benchmark, was trending downward since late last year on global recession fears, nearing $70 a barrel last month. On Monday, oil prices were on track for their biggest jump in nearly a year, up 5.9% at $84.59 a barrel. 

 

</snip>

 

Prince Mohammed told associates late last year that he was no longer interested in pleasing the U.S., saying he wants something in return for anything he gives Washington, according to people familiar with the conversation.

 

https://archive.vn/t4oT9#selection-115.5-115.76

 

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[ALF]

Biden considering cracking down on gas cars after stripping EVs of tax credits

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is expected to announce the new standards, which will impact cars manufactured between 2027-2032, next week during a ceremony in Detroit, Bloomberg reported on Thursday, citing officials briefed on the proposal. In a statement, the EPA confirmed the standards are designed to incentivize consumers to purchase electric vehicles (EV).

 

Overall, the average cost of an EV was $64,338 while the average cost of a compact gas-powered car was $26,101 as of last year, according to Kelley Blue Book

 

Last year, meanwhile, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) unveiled new fuel economy standards that it said would boost fuel efficiency, but acknowledged it would cost automakers about $236.5 billion and eventually make cars $1,000 more expensive. The standards are projected to increase fuel efficiency 8% annually for model years 2024-2025 and 10% annually for model year 2026.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-considering-cracking-down-gas-cars-stripping-evs-tax-credits

[ExiledInIllinois]

This 

This from 1956. A simple vacuum cleaner: $89.95.  You know how much that is in 2023? About a $994.87!!

 

https://www.usinflationcalculator.com

 

The old days aren't as great as they are made out to be. AND we aren't suffering as bad now as we think...

 

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

15 hours ago, ALF said:

Biden considering cracking down on gas cars after stripping EVs of tax credits

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is expected to announce the new standards, which will impact cars manufactured between 2027-2032, next week during a ceremony in Detroit, Bloomberg reported on Thursday, citing officials briefed on the proposal. In a statement, the EPA confirmed the standards are designed to incentivize consumers to purchase electric vehicles (EV).

 

Overall, the average cost of an EV was $64,338 while the average cost of a compact gas-powered car was $26,101 as of last year, according to Kelley Blue Book

 

Last year, meanwhile, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) unveiled new fuel economy standards that it said would boost fuel efficiency, but acknowledged it would cost automakers about $236.5 billion and eventually make cars $1,000 more expensive. The standards are projected to increase fuel efficiency 8% annually for model years 2024-2025 and 10% annually for model year 2026.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-considering-cracking-down-gas-cars-stripping-evs-tax-credits

 

 

All I see hear is an unelected tyrannical federal government agency with wayyyyyyyyyy too much power crapping all over the little people.   
 

By design.  
 

More government more agencies more power more control less freedom.  
 

You will buy the EV.  THEN we will just tax you by the mile.  Under some more b.s. brain dead commie libs will defend and justify.   

[All_Pro_Bills]

6 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

All I see hear is an unelected tyrannical federal government agency with wayyyyyyyyyy too much power crapping all over the little people.   
 

By design.  
 

More government more agencies more power more control less freedom.  
 

You will buy the EV.  THEN we will just tax you by the mile.  Under some more b.s. brain dead commie libs will defend and justify.   

I would like to know the plan for upgrading the electric grid to handle 100 million EV's plugged into residential chargers every night.  

[Joe Ferguson forever]

On 4/9/2023 at 8:11 AM, ALF said:

Biden considering cracking down on gas cars after stripping EVs of tax credits

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is expected to announce the new standards, which will impact cars manufactured between 2027-2032, next week during a ceremony in Detroit, Bloomberg reported on Thursday, citing officials briefed on the proposal. In a statement, the EPA confirmed the standards are designed to incentivize consumers to purchase electric vehicles (EV).

 

Overall, the average cost of an EV was $64,338 while the average cost of a compact gas-powered car was $26,101 as of last year, according to Kelley Blue Book

 

Last year, meanwhile, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) unveiled new fuel economy standards that it said would boost fuel efficiency, but acknowledged it would cost automakers about $236.5 billion and eventually make cars $1,000 more expensive. The standards are projected to increase fuel efficiency 8% annually for model years 2024-2025 and 10% annually for model year 2026.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-considering-cracking-down-gas-cars-stripping-evs-tax-credits

guess I'll be keeping my old cars even longer than I originally planned..  Putting a new engine in one last year looks a good investment (and I really like the car).  Going to have to do some investment research into auto parts manufacturers 

[Tommy Callahan]

8 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

This 

This from 1956. A simple vacuum cleaner: $89.95.  You know how much that is in 2023? About a $994.87!!

 

https://www.usinflationcalculator.com

 

The old days aren't as great as they are made out to be. AND we aren't suffering as bad now as we think...

 

 

 

 

Would mention those old ones lasted decades. the new ones are built to be re bought every year or so.

 

Same much of the throw away crap we buy today.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

12 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Would mention those old ones lasted decades. the new ones are built to be re bought every year or so.

 

Same much of the throw away crap we buy today.

 

 

buy an Oreck or move to Switzerland although despite their lower inflation rate, things are pretty expensive there.  try buying a vacuum cleaner there.  I'll look for a deal for u hen I'm there in the summer.:

https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/inflation-rate

Edited April 10, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Tommy Callahan]

I have a perfectly fine working, Kirby. they last forever.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

I have a perfectly fine working, Kirby. they last forever.

 

 

Cool.  More room for the cuckoo clocks!

[ExiledInIllinois]

49 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Would mention those old ones lasted decades. the new ones are built to be re bought every year or so.

 

Same much of the throw away crap we buy today.

 

 

FakeNews. Myth. Just like cars back then that did NOT last decades but rotted out in 2 years. LoL...

 

😆... "You can't run a vacuum cleaner on 12 amps John..." 

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

FakeNews. Myth. Just like cars back then that did NOT last decades but rotted out in 2 years. LoL...

 

😆... "You can't run a vacuum cleaner on 12 amps John..." 

 

 

Facts. From your old TV and Stereo to your old car, they were designed to be repaired. 

 

Most of today's devices are designed to be replaced quite often.

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 minute ago, Chris farley said:

Facts. From your old TV and Stereo to your old car, they were designed to be repaired. 

 

Most of today's devices are designed to be replaced quite often.

 

 

Yeah, but broke. Were repairs free? You're in dream world. Things last longer now, even throwaway. 

Edited April 10, 2023 by ExiledInIllinois

[Tiberius]

5 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yeah, but broke. Were repairs free? You're in dream world. Things last longer now, even throwaway. 

Automobiles for sure are way better now and last much longer