Buffalo Boy Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, JOSH HUFF said: Didn't the D just give up over 40 points! NEED to improve. DE & DT, Bye to Mario Addison, Jerry Hughes and probably Star. Also need a corner. T White might not be the same player after knee injury. I would love to see an upgrade at RB too. The line and offense just put up 36 points on the road and lost because of bad coaching decisions, 13 seconds! JOSH picked up the whole O (again) and put them on his shoulders and carried them. No Josh= No Magic. He can’t take that kind of pounding forever and i would say , much longer. He is our investment and we need to protect him by creating a better line in front of him and a better running game around him (that doesn’t include him to Tre extent it currently does. The way you beat the Chiefs is you OUTSCORE them. You don’t slow them down. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Big Turk said: CB2 How many draft assets does a defensive-minded coach need to run his defense? When are they going to strategically focus on protecting their $250M investment by surrounding him with enough talent that he doesn’t have to win games himself? Not denying CB2 is a need but my gosh they’ve spent a lot on that side… 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Oh but it was worse than that. IIRC the defense had just spent 8 minutes giving up a long drive, and desperately needed the offense to sustain a drive of their own. The Bills "responded" by calling 3 nowhere plays and punting on 4th and short, forcing the D back onto the field. It was one of many examples yesterday of the coaches not being plugged into what was actually happening on the field. It's highly disturbing. Again, the Pegulas aren't serious human beings or there would at least be some level of talking-to accountability - firing McD would be rash and stupid but he should absolutely be put on notice for his lack of situational awareness in critical moments all season. It HAS to stop if this team cares about championships. Jim Irsay is a nutjob but at least he demands excellence for his fans. I don't think the Pegula's are in any position to lean on McDermott.........I get disappointed with some of the things McD does...........but he'd be A LOT harder to replace than Frank Reich would be in Indy. They are built on McD's foundation for better or worse. The talent aside from Allen isn't good enough to sustain a seismic coaching change. And I do like the fact that he is always willing to make adjusments to his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: .....to trade up a bit if Jordan Davis is there at 20ish. Also, the Chiefs quietly ran for over 180 yards last night. CEH gashed that line in almost every touch ripping off hige chunks. Run defense is still something to improve. A few bad scrambles, a few light boxes, and a few terrible run fits. We suck at defending reverses too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: How many draft assets does a defensive-minded coach need to run his defense? When are they going to strategically focus on protecting their $250M investment by surrounding him with enough talent that he doesn’t have to win games himself? Not denying CB2 is a need but my gosh they’ve spent a lot on that side… White won't be back til mid season and even when he comes back he likely won't be the same player until the following year. WR could also be a pick here but I think the CB pool is deeper this draft class late in the round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: I don't think the Pegula's are in any position to lean on McDermott.........I get disappointed with some of the things McD does...........but he'd be A LOT harder to replace than Frank Reich would be in Indy. They are built on McD's foundation for better or worse. The talent aside from Allen isn't good enough to sustain a seismic coaching change. And I do like the fact that he is always willing to make adjusments to his game. Agree with all of that but would prefer he brings in some coaching talent who could actually challenge him to stretch more. With the game on the line last night was anyone in McD’s ear about the situation they were facing? Because it sure seemed like he somehow didn’t know the Chiefs were only down by 3 and had all of their timeouts. A competent veteran assistant HC/special teams coordinator would do wonders for the game day operation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: Best CB available I would have argued with this before, But now, after Sunday, it should be obvious to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: How many draft assets does a defensive-minded coach need to run his defense? When are they going to strategically focus on protecting their $250M investment by surrounding him with enough talent that he doesn’t have to win games himself? Not denying CB2 is a need but my gosh they’ve spent a lot on that side… They’d probably scheme up the wrong defense again 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Imagine that extremely fat guy playing 35-40 plays against Mahomes. He'd keel over dead. I'd be very leery about throwing first round money at a guy like that. That's bad business. The addition of a true 1 technique can’t be undervalued for the turn around of this defense from 2020 to 2021. There are going to be plenty of teams that will be trying to beat the Bills by running the ball. Losing 4 games could mean another trip to Arrowhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: JOSH picked up the whole O (again) and put them on his shoulders and carried them. No Josh= No Magic. He can’t take that kind of pounding forever and i would say , much longer. He is our investment and we need to protect him by creating a better line in front of him and a better running game around him (that doesn’t include him to Tre extent it currently does. The way you beat the Chiefs is you OUTSCORE them. You don’t slow them down. Allen doesn't take all that many hits...he was among the least sacked QBs in the NFL, so that eliminates a lot of hits on him and most times he is delivering the blows rather than receiving them. He also does a good job of getting down when needed and running out of bounds. He isn't Newton standing back there and getting hammered on many dropbacks. Edited January 24, 2022 by Big Turk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: Whoever Allen wants. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: No thanks. They’ve already invested a ***** ton defensively…. It’s time to stop making Josh Allen do just about everything for the offense and get him some help. I guess, if you want Josh Allen to continue to be both the run and pass game while taking a beating and knocking off years of his prime. I wouldn't mind seeing Olave as a Bill...dude has some jets running a 4.38. Doubt he is there at 25 tho Edited January 24, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, ScottLaw said: How many games did the Bills lose because they couldn’t stop the run? 2 or 3. Indy, Tennessee and Patriots 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: . I guess, if you want Josh Allen to continue to be both the run and pass game while taking a beating and knocking off years of his prime. No. Nice try. That is a false choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: How many draft assets does a defensive-minded coach need to run his defense? When are they going to strategically focus on protecting their $250M investment by surrounding him with enough talent that he doesn’t have to win games himself? Not denying CB2 is a need but my gosh they’ve spent a lot on that side… They sure did! But with Tre being out with an ACL, that’s no good. Especially with Kansas City being our major nemesis, it makes sense to be extremely deep at DB. They may even need to draft two of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Anyone replying with a position and not a player name is immediately disqualified imo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: They sure did! But with Tre being out with an ACL, that’s no good. Especially with Kansas City being our major nemesis, it makes sense to be extremely deep at DB. They may even need to draft two of them. My problem is that the Broncos were shopping Kyle Fuller at the deadline and Beane stood pat. A former All Pro 2 years ago. Not sure of the compensation, but I would’ve given up at least a 3rd for him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: The addition of a true 1 technique can’t be undervalued for the turn around of this defense from 2020 to 2021. There are going to be plenty of teams that will be trying to beat the Bills by running the ball. Losing 4 games could mean another trip to Arrowhead. Your 1 tech isn't a nose tackle........he still needs to be able to make plays...........Davis doesn't do that. His 2021 production was pretty anemic actually. 14 games 32 tackles 5 TFL and 2 sacks Harrison Phillips senior year line at Stanford: 14 games 98 tackles 17 TFL and 7.5 sacks Phillips is a true 1 tech who is coming into his own now............they need a backup to him but they don't need to use a first round pick there. Support the QB.........Allen can't endure the kind of beating he took running the ball that much year after year...........he needs playmakers and blocking and those take HUGE precedence over a filling a run defense role. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I think we're delusional if we think Linderbaum will be there. He's much much more likely to go top 10 than fall to 25. Kyler Gordon or Ahmad Gardner would be my choices to pair with Tre. I don't think Elam will be there at 25 if I had to guess. Gordon intrigues me from a size and versatility stand point and Gardner is the most productive DB in this class by a mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 It is supposed to be not such a great year for corners, so let's draft the 6th or 7th rated corner out there and make him a multi-millionaire!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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