If anyone wants to say the NFL isn't rigged, please re-watch that game

[nucci]

8 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Wasn't just three calls at the end (two non calls on Diggs and the Evans call), but there were so many inconsistencies and maybe someone can help in case I missed anything.

 

1. Could have been 3-4 Roughing the Passer on TB 
2. Spots - Seemed the Bills they put the ball back 1 -2 yards on multiple calls, yet TB got favourable spots (am I just being a homer here?)
3. Twice TB was called for penalties, only to be then offset by some call in the secondary by Buffalo (never saw replays).  Both were third down incompletions and the second led to the 27-10 FG
4. Diggs & others being mauled and that terrible non call where Diggs was grabbed (second quarter) and then lost the ball (would have been a TD)
5. Outside two Offside and a 4 yd Roughing the Passer, TB had one other penalty (on a kick return).

 

Hate when reffing imposes themselves on the result.  

regarding the spots...when did they stop doing measurements? That one that was looked at should have been measured but they could tell it was a first down?

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

6 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

I think the weirdest stat is this:

 

Allen attempted 54 passes, and probably a couple more that he ran... the Bucs DBs had 0 penalties against them.  No holding. No PI. Nothing.

 

Right?! and a lot of them were like - down field escape the rush type of plays too.  

[Billsfan1972]

1 hour ago, nucci said:

regarding the spots...when did they stop doing measurements? That one that was looked at should have been measured but they could tell it was a first down?

Like the 4th down stop on Mac Jones last week, the Refs decided they were going to give them the first down regardless.

Edited December 13, 2021 by Billsfan1972

[Matt_In_NH]

3 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Wasn't just three calls at the end (two non calls on Diggs and the Evans call), but there were so many inconsistencies and maybe someone can help in case I missed anything.

 

1. Could have been 3-4 Roughing the Passer on TB 
2. Spots - Seemed the Bills they put the ball back 1 -2 yards on multiple calls, yet TB got favourable spots (am I just being a homer here?)
3. Twice TB was called for penalties, only to be then offset by some call in the secondary by Buffalo (never saw replays).  Both were third down incompletions and the second led to the 27-10 FG
4. Diggs & others being mauled and that terrible non call where Diggs was grabbed (second quarter) and then lost the ball (would have been a TD)
5. Outside two Offside and a 4 yd Roughing the Passer, TB had one other penalty.

 

Hate when reffing imposes themselves on the result.  

1.  Agree the Bills hit Tom Brady late a couple times that were not called.

2.  Yes you are a homer on this.

3.  Same thing, worded differently.  Two times Buffalo was called for penalties that would have converted a 3rd down only to be offset by a Tampa penalty.

4.  Agree to a point, you wont get all of those, but a couple should have been called, especially if you call the one on Evans in OT.  That one killed me after you don't throw on the others.

5.  Correct, Tampa had 4 penalties, I think the Bills had 7.  Last week the Bills has 3, Pats had 6.

 

In any overtime game you will find fans pointing to "this call" or "that call" or "this noncall" etc.   It's the nature of close games, lots of little things could have flipped the outcome.  Not sure I think the Bills played well enough to win that game, I was impressed by the 4th quarter for sure but they underperformed much of the game and should blame themselves more than the refs in my opinion.

[Success]

It's really hard to deal w/ all of it today.

 

When a team fights that hard, and then the refs just pull the rug out - I mean, do officials have to go back the next day and look at these games?  I know in baseball, the home plate up gets a grade based on the # of strikes he missed.

 

[Billsfan1972]

Just now, dneveu said:

 

Right?! and a lot of them were like - down field escape the rush type of plays too.  

That's when you get holding and other calls, when plays are extended, but play the Bills and the oppositions DBs never do that right?????😜

[1ManRaid]

3 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

If it were only 1 bad PI it would be less egregious.  There was string of bad non calls, bad spots, and bad calls all wrapped up.   
 

It looked like Tampa Tom must win for our ratings.  CBS helps with the messaging too. 

 

That's the other thing I noticed that is lost in all the PI/holding talk, the spots.  We get spotted short on what looks like first downs, Buccs kept getting "just give it to em".

[BillsBlue]

14 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Wasn't just three calls at the end (two non calls on Diggs and the Evans call), but there were so many inconsistencies and maybe someone can help in case I missed anything.

 

1. Could have been 3-4 Roughing the Passer on TB 
2. Spots - Seemed the Bills they put the ball back 1 -2 yards on multiple calls, yet TB got favourable spots (am I just being a homer here?)
3. Twice TB was called for penalties, only to be then offset by some call in the secondary by Buffalo (never saw replays).  Both were third down incompletions and the second led to the 27-10 FG
4. Diggs & others being mauled and that terrible non call where Diggs was grabbed (second quarter) and then lost the ball (would have been a TD)
5. Outside two Offside and a 4 yd Roughing the Passer, TB had one other penalty (on a kick return).

 

Hate when reffing imposes themselves on the result.  

I agree on all counts I wish there was anything we could do, BUT THE NFL WANTS VRADY VS BELLICHECK PERIOD AND WE WERE VICTOMIZED BY THEIR OBSESSION WITH BRADY AND BELLICHECK 2 WEEKS IN A ROW

[BillsDiehard]

Gross!

[Billsfan1972]

1 minute ago, mattynh said:

1.  Agree the Bills hit Tom Brady late a couple times that were not called.

2.  Yes you are a homer on this.

3.  Same thing, worded differently.  Two times Buffalo was called for penalties that would have converted a 3rd down only to be offset by a Tampa penalty.

4.  Agree to a point, you wont get all of those, but a couple should have been called, especially if you call the one on Evans in OT.  That one killed me after you don't throw on the others.

5.  Correct, Tampa had 4 penalties, I think the Bills had 7.  Last week the Bills has 3, Pats had 6.

 

In any overtime game you will find fans pointing to "this call" or "that call" or "this noncall" etc.   It's the nature of close games, lots of little things could have flipped the outcome.  Not sure I think the Bills played well enough to win that game, I was impressed by the 4th quarter for sure but they underperformed much of the game and should blame themselves more than the refs in my opinion.

1. They touched Brady maybe once all game....

2. Marks were terrible, but yep I'm a homer.

3. Did you see the Bills penalties they called (btw not a single penalty on TB's secondary)

4.Thanks for actually agreeing

5. Bills penalties were significant.  TB jumped the gun twice for piddly 5 yard penalties, one roughing the passer and the 10 yard penalty on a kick return.  Bills penalties I think all accounted for first downs. 

[without a drought]

Close games will be decided by inches...or the refs.

[Bob in STL]

2 minutes ago, nucci said:

regarding the spots...when did they stop doing measurements? That one that was looked at should have been measured but they could tell it was a first down?

The one Romo backtracked on?   Romo said it looked short, then there was a second effort with more forward movement.  Nantz told the world he got the first down, so Romo backtracked.  To me the runners helmet got the first down but the ball didn’t.  The spot was generous and there was no measurement. 
 

This didn’t cost us the game but the Non DPI calls on Diggs did. 

[Big Turk]

8 minutes ago, mattynh said:

1.  Agree the Bills hit Tom Brady late a couple times that were not called.

2.  Yes you are a homer on this.

3.  Same thing, worded differently.  Two times Buffalo was called for penalties that would have converted a 3rd down only to be offset by a Tampa penalty.

4.  Agree to a point, you wont get all of those, but a couple should have been called, especially if you call the one on Evans in OT.  That one killed me after you don't throw on the others.

5.  Correct, Tampa had 4 penalties, I think the Bills had 7.  Last week the Bills has 3, Pats had 6.

 

In any overtime game you will find fans pointing to "this call" or "that call" or "this noncall" etc.   It's the nature of close games, lots of little things could have flipped the outcome.  Not sure I think the Bills played well enough to win that game, I was impressed by the 4th quarter for sure but they underperformed much of the game and should blame themselves more than the refs in my opinion.

 

The reverse angle of the one on Diggs in the end zone is just crazy...dude is falling and literally has both hands on the collar of Diggs pulling him down... 

 

How that wasn't called is beyond me...

[BuffaloBaumer]

I can't get over this game, really have not been hit this hard in years after a game. I hate this feeling so much. Josh deserved that win so much...as did the fans.

[Blainorama5]

Bucs - Pats SB.   That's all the NFL cares about.  It's obvious!!  😉

[Thriftygamer83]

Sean McDermott has us in the right direction, the officiating was bonkers, and truthfully it was little more then lending accolades to what fans, trolls and media personalities wanted in cementing Cry Brady as the best Quarterback.  Looking at how thing have played out is just it angers me that officiating and the league give New England and Tampa Bay such protections.  It makes sense though if we look at it as officials engaged into point shaving, making bogus cals if a game is to close for their liking, and icing certain fan bases to outright honestly taunt us.  Time wounds all heels I picture it won't be long until we hear about how Kraft had raped a Tong or Traid massause and wonder if any pro-sex worker lobbyist arm will try to support him thereafter..  Given how he wanted a specific worker tr, tailored to a certain age range, and with a questionable talent for illegal services.  We're getting screwed by a league and officials which are taunting us to do something.  Next video I'll make will cover Kraft and his connections and ponder if through any Boston China town "rep" he had the girls sent down to Florida to cater to his needs.  

Actually, had talked to a sex worker on Twitter part of the legalize it torch bearers.  When asked about Tongs or Traids she said no comment and tried to gloss over it.  She then said on further prying that she couldn't discuss her own knowledge of the Tongs and Traids.  It didn't take to long for me to get notified that the Feds had locked down that conversation completely.  It actually hasn't made me popular among some of my Maine family members for pointing out those details.

[Murdox]

13 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

1. They touched Brady maybe once all game....

2. Marks were terrible, but yep I'm a homer.

3. Did you see the Bills penalties they called (btw not a single penalty on TB's secondary)

4.Thanks for actually agreeing

5. Bills penalties were significant.  TB jumped the gun twice for piddly 5 yard penalties, one roughing the passer and the 10 yard penalty on a kick return.  Bills penalties I think all accounted for first downs. 

 

Have to agree - I have no idea what Mattynh is seeing there.  That said, I knew when we failed to punch it in at the end of the game that we were doomed.

[muppy]

We had 2, 2! Obvious obvious holds that directly effected us not winning the game. We win the game with those calls actually happening



Then they have the nerve to call that BS Pass interference


This was the worst officiating game I've seen in a long time, That's saying something.

Edited December 13, 2021 by muppy

[Gen2]

[727Bills]

If these calls are so blatant then why are our WRs (you know the guy that is actually in the game at the moment) not throwing a fit towards the refs?