Knox injury?

[Doc]

47 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Doesn’t really seem to matter who they lose… Lamar is locked in.

 

It will.

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

Doesn’t really seem to matter who they lose… Lamar is locked in.

 

Lamar was objectively bad last Sunday.

 

167 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT.

 

The Chargers we’re just bad’er.

 

In 3 of his 6 games this year he has equal or more turnovers in the game than he does passing TD’s. The Lamar hype right now is ridiculous.

 

Edited October 20, 2021 by Einstein

[No_Matter_What]

11 hours ago, Southtown Tommy said:

Looks like 3-4 weeks

 

So if this is true, put him on IR and activate Stevenson?

[Gugny]

2 hours ago, Steel City Mafia said:

 

 

"Dawson Knox had successful surgery yesterday, source said, with the goal of returning to the field as soon as possible."

 

Boy ... Ian really went out on a limb, there!

 

[YoloinOhio]

5 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

 

So if this is true, put him on IR and activate Stevenson?

Might as well, unless they actually think it is 3 weeks on the high end and he could be back sooner. Because of the bye week, he would actually be out 4 weeks if he goes on IR (it is 3 games, not 3 weeks). But it just feels like it makes too much sense to get Stevenson in there.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Might as well, unless they actually think it is 3 weeks on the high end and he could be back sooner. Because of the bye week, he would actually be out 4 weeks if he goes on IR (it is 3 games, not 3 weeks). But it just feels like it makes too much sense to get Stevenson in there.

 

One problem is they gotta have a plan to keep Stevenson on the roster when Knox returns.

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

One problem is they gotta have a plan to keep Stevenson on the roster when Knox returns.

I feel like that may take care of itself, with injuries likely and/or trade deadline coming up 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Might as well, unless they actually think it is 3 weeks on the high end and he could be back sooner. Because of the bye week, he would actually be out 4 weeks if he goes on IR (it is 3 games, not 3 weeks). But it just feels like it makes too much sense to get Stevenson in there.

 

The surgery for Knox should enable faster healing, but healing a bone break still takes weeks.  IMHO 3 weeks is probably on the low end.  Athletes with surgical repair of bones do return to sport with a brace in as little as 2 weeks, but those are usually lower-contact sports or positions where there isn't as much use of the hands and need for precision and dexterity.  The real benefit of the surgery should be that he can start PT and rehab in 2 or 3 weeks so he won't lose as much.

 

That may be a long winded way to say "More Haste, Less Speed" and I hope they err on the side of giving it time to heal more at first vs. risking a setback.  I can't think of a position that requires more of the hands than a blocking and pass catching TE.

 

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I feel like that may take care of itself, with injuries likely and/or trade deadline coming up 

 

It may take care of itself, but Beane doesn't strike me as a guy who likes to leave things to chance

[DJB]

11 hours ago, Southtown Tommy said:

Looks like 3-4 weeks

 

Thank you for the info!!!

[eball]

42 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I think every QB misses “easy” throws from time to time… Lamar is just so efficient, so if he misses a throw on one play he makes up for it on the next one.

 

33 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Lamar was objectively bad last Sunday.

 

167 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT.

 

The Chargers we’re just bad’er.

 

In 3 of his 6 games this year he has equal or more turnovers in the game than he does passing TD’s. The Lamar hype right now is ridiculous.

 

 

@ScottLaw see above.  He had a RIDICULOUS 2nd half vs. the Colts that I believe is clouding your assessment.

[Albany,n.y.]

37 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Lamar was objectively bad last Sunday.

 

167 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT.

 

The Chargers we’re just bad’er.

 

In 3 of his 6 games this year he has equal or more turnovers in the game than he does passing TD’s. The Lamar hype right now is ridiculous.

 

This post is what happens when someone looks at stats instead of watching the game. Stats are for losers!

Anyone who watched the games Lamar Jackson played in knows that the above post is ridiculously stupid.   

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, eball said:

@ScottLaw see above.  He had a RIDICULOUS 2nd half vs. the Colts that I believe is clouding your assessment.

 

Yeah.  And if not for the Colts' kicker, it would have been moot.

[Einstein]

6 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

This post is what happens when someone looks at stats instead of watching the game. Stats are for losers!

Anyone who watched the games Lamar Jackson played in knows that the above post is ridiculously stupid.   

 

I saw the game. He was not good.

 

This was one of the worst INT’s i’ve seen in some time.

 

 

Edited October 20, 2021 by Einstein

[Albany,n.y.]

6 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

I saw the game. He was not good.

Then you are clueless.  The gameplan was to run against the Chargers weak run defense,  Baltimore ran for 187 yards including 51 by Lamar Jackson.  He had no need to throw for big yardage.  He hit 70% of his passes.  They scored 34 points. 

Go take your lame use of stats to try to prove a ridiculous point because you don't like Jackson for whatever lame reason you have and learn how to watch football because  it's pretty obvious you have no clue what you're watching.  

Edited October 20, 2021 by Albany,n.y.

[Einstein]

1 minute ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Then you are clueless.  The gameplan was to run against the Chargers weak run defense,  Baltimore ran for 187 yards including 51 by Lamar Jackson.  He had no need to throw for big yardage.  He hit 70% of his passes.  They scored 34 points. 

Go take your lame use of stats to try to prove a ridiculous point because you don't like Jackson for whatever lame reason you have and learn how to watch football because  it's pretty obvious you have no clue what you're watching.  

 

Would you like to further excuse this?

 

 

[Albany,n.y.]

4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Would you like to further excuse this?

 

 

It's one play in a game the Ravens won by 34-6 & controlled the entire 60 minutes.  

You are so clueless there's no point in responding to any of your stupid posts after this response.  

Edited October 20, 2021 by Albany,n.y.

[No_Matter_What]

32 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

It may take care of itself, but Beane doesn't strike me as a guy who likes to leave things to chance

It doesn't have to mean he leaves it to chance. He might think that injuries will somehow sort it out (which is fairly likely), and if not, he might have a backup plan - like cutting least performing DT for example.

 

But you're obviously right that he just doesn't activate Stevenson without some plan in mind.

[Einstein]

2 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

It's one play in a game the Ravens won by 34-6 & controlled the entire 60 minutes.  

You are so clueless there's no point in responding to any of your stupid posts after this response.  

 

I agree. We will not find common ground on this and there is no point in further discussion.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Then you are clueless.  The gameplan was to run against the Chargers weak run defense,  Baltimore ran for 187 yards including 51 by Lamar Jackson.  He had no need to throw for big yardage.  He hit 70% of his passes.  They scored 34 points. 

Go take your lame use of stats to try to prove a ridiculous point because you don't like Jackson for whatever lame reason you have and learn how to watch football because  it's pretty obvious you have no clue what you're watching.  

 

Well, first off I'd like to note that Buffalo scored 31 points on Monday night yet Allen was horrible, according to some here.  Ditto on games where the Bills plan is obviously to run down a team's throat.  So points are apparently not a great metric of QB quality and neither are rush yards (sarcasm) or overall yards.  Some sarcasm here, in case it's not obvious.

 

Second, I'd like to note that Lamar did throw two picks in that Chargers game, and that watching that in any game, one can make a legit point that the QB didn't "Do His Job". 

 

 

[Einstein]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Well, first off I'd like to note that Buffalo scored 31 points on Monday night yet Allen was horrible, according to some here.  Ditto on games where the Bills plan is obviously to run down a team's throat.  So points are apparently not a great metric of QB quality and neither are rush yards (sarcasm) or overall yards.  Some sarcasm here, in case it's not obvious.

 

Second, I'd like to note that Lamar did throw two picks in that Chargers game, and that watching that in any game, one can make a legit point that the QB didn't "Do His Job". 

 

 

 

And one of them was one of the worst INT’s i’ve seen in some time. There was not a receiver anywhere in the vicinity.

 

The Ravens won that game because of a strong defensive performance (4 turnovers) along with running the ball. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

49 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

It's one play in a game the Ravens won by 34-6 & controlled the entire 60 minutes. 

 

A turnover is generally considered (among the football knowledgeable) to have disproportionate impact on the outcome of a game, which dismissing it as "one play" appears to minimize.  And that was a bad interception.

 

This is especially true of turnovers which give the opponent great field position.  Allen's INT (not his fault as his arm was hit as he threw) gave the Titans TD points that may have been the difference in the game.

 

 

42 minutes ago, Einstein said:

And one of them was one of the worst INT’s i’ve seen in some time. There was not a receiver anywhere in the vicinity.

 

There was a receiver if it's the play I saw, though he was well covered.  Lamar just didn't perceive the DB in position to jump the route.  Josh made several INTs of this sort in his second season, notable the 1st NE game, until Daboll and Dorsey beat it out of him (or another view, until Josh recognized the serious, game losing impact of INTs and committed to minimizing them)

 

 

42 minutes ago, Einstein said:

The Ravens won that game because of a strong defensive performance (4 turnovers) along with running the ball. 

 

One could equally say because of the Chargers weak offensive performance?

 

But we are drifting far afield from the thread topic here.

 

[buffaloboyinATL]

If this had happened a week sooner, we would most likely have upped our offer for Ertz.  The injury sucks, as does the timing. 

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, buffaloboyinATL said:

If this had happened a week sooner, we would most likely have upped our offer for Ertz.  The injury sucks, as does the timing. 

Tbh I don’t think they would have done anything differently. Ertz and Knox are different types of TEs so he wouldn’t really be able to replace him in the offense. And with it being a short term injury then you are stuck with him and his contract when Knox is back in a few weeks. Arizona lost their starting TE for the year so it made more sense. 

[Gugny]

7 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

If this had happened a week sooner, we would most likely have upped our offer for Ertz.  The injury sucks, as does the timing. 

 

Meanwhile, Dawson Knox is leading the NFL in TDs by a Tight End and enjoying a 75% catch rate.

[buffaloboyinATL]

4 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Meanwhile, Dawson Knox is leading the NFL in TDs by a Tight End and enjoying a 75% catch rate.

Oh, don’t get me wrong, I prefer Knox by far, but in a year like this, when we are clearly making a run to go deep into the playoffs, I expect us to try and fill any potential holes.  Beane may have considered Ertz as a short term rental if he were still available. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Help!  Get me out of NYC!  Well, the Meadowlands...

[Sugar High JA17]

34 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

If this had happened a week sooner, we would most likely have upped our offer for Ertz.  The injury sucks, as does the timing. 

The injury sucks yes but the timing couldnt be better imo, 2-wks to heal and Mia/Jax/jets folowing in the coming weeks.

Zero worries for me - Sweeney time!

[3rdand12]

On 10/20/2021 at 10:57 AM, Albany,n.y. said:

This post is what happens when someone looks at stats instead of watching the game. Stats are for losers!

Anyone who watched the games Lamar Jackson played in knows that the above post is ridiculously stupid.   

harshing on the newbie Albany

be nice  

[Warcodered]

 

Hand seems to be doing fine.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

10 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

Hand seems to be doing fine.

 

I think that's the advantage of the internal fixation (surgery to hold bones in place with hardware): once the swelling is down, the hand can be used normally to maintain dexterity and flexibility as a cast/splint is not needed to keep the bone aligned. 

 

Decent artist!  as Sweeney says "Somebody paid attention in Arts and Crafts"

 

But being able to hold a paintbrush vs. able to catch a Josh Allen pass smacking into his hands at 50 mph or able to smack into a charging LB, different matter.

[unbillievable]

Did he break his hand trying to catch a Josh Allen pass?

[muppy]

those 2 were adorable with that little boy how sweet was that? Now Tommy Sweeney is officially stud muffin status also, what a cutie!!!

 

LOL

 

m

Edited October 30, 2021 by Muppy

[Hapless Bills Fan]

10 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

Did he break his hand trying to catch a Josh Allen pass?

 

We don't know.  The thinking is fell onto it

[ColoradoBills]

4 minutes ago, Muppy said:

those 2 were adorable with that little boy how sweet was that? Now Tommy Sweeney is officially stud muffin status also, what a Hottie!!!

 

LOL

 

m

 

Breathe Muppy or you'll give yourself the "vapors".

[muppy]

27 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Breathe Muppy or you'll give yourself the "vapors".

fooooooooooooooooooooooo-------faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa much better thanks for having my back 

 

lol

 

m

Edited October 30, 2021 by Muppy

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 hours ago, Muppy said:

fooooooooooooooooooooooo-------faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa much better thanks for having my back 

 

lol

 

m

 

Don't look here:

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/why-tommy-sweeney-is-ready-take-advantage-of-his-opportunity-in-the-spotlight

Or here:

https://footballabsurdity.com/2021/10/29/2021-fantasy-football-week-8-sleeper-tight-ends-sweeney-tom-the-demon-te-of-orchard-park/

We need some serious research into the back-story behind that photo.  Is that just a photoshop?  I know that's not Josh's Halloween costume

(Damn, sometimes I miss those social media accounts)

[muppy]

24 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Don't look here:

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/why-tommy-sweeney-is-ready-take-advantage-of-his-opportunity-in-the-spotlight

Or here:

https://footballabsurdity.com/2021/10/29/2021-fantasy-football-week-8-sleeper-tight-ends-sweeney-tom-the-demon-te-of-orchard-park/

We need some serious research into the back-story behind that photo.  Is that just a photoshop?  I know that's not Josh's Halloween costume

(Damn, sometimes I miss those social media accounts)

lol hahahaaaaa baby Baby BABY wooooooot!  **remembering to breathe****  goodness gracious he is FINE....yeah i goofball my crushes but Im a woman of fine taste and discernment....LOL dayummm

Edited October 30, 2021 by Muppy

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 hours ago, Muppy said:

lol hahahaaaaa baby Baby BABY wooooooot!  **remembering to breathe****  goodness gracious he is FINE....yeah i goofball my crushes but Im a woman of fine taste and discernment....LOL dayummm

 

I'm just hoping that after tomorrow, "Sweeney Tom, the Demon TE of Orchard Park" seems like an apt tag

[Warcodered]

Got to be approaching the deadline to IR him and include this game, so far looking good that they think this will be at most 2 games.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

38 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Got to be approaching the deadline to IR him and include this game, so far looking good that they think this will be at most 2 games.

 

I'm pretty sure the deadline for that was the same as the deadline for elevating PS players, 4 pm today

But I'm not certain of that - maybe they can IR Knox right up until game time

 

I don't think they will, from the shots of him at practice Weds manipulating a football with his R hand, I think they believe he's at the earlier side of the 3-4 week timeline, which would mean miss this week, maybe next week, back after that.

44 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I'm just hoping that after tomorrow, "Sweeney Tom, the Demon TE of Orchard Park" seems like an apt tag

 

Being a bit more serious, found this Knox review from cover1