PromoTheRobot Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, TBBills said: Hooray, they are just above rock bottom!!! The first step to respectability is getting out of rock bottom. The Sabres can't just buy their way out with free agents. They have to develop their picks. It takes time. Bringing up the last ten years doesn't make things go faster now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 22 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Kim wants to be done with the Sabres. Terry won't sell. He loves hockey no matter what the poorly informed in this thread will have you believe. Where are you hearing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Absolutely WRONG! Buffalo is a hockey town and belongs in the NHL. Any franchise we let leave is gone forever. I have watched every single second of Sabres hockey this year, and pretty much every year. If all you do is check the scores and standings it's easy to think they are a basket case. But actually they are where the Bills were in 2018. They blew up the old core and are cultivating a new one. They are a very young team and players that need to develop. But I can tell you this team is already much better than the s##t show they were last year under Krueger. In many games they are playing well only to screw up in their end and give up a goal. Maybe they are inching towards having a fringe playoff roster in a couple years.........but it's a bit difficult to envision a cup contender coming out of this in 2024 (as the Bills became a SB contender in 2020). Are the Lightning, Panthers and Leafs suddenly getting much worse while the Sabres somehow vault to the top without star power? Are the Sabres even ahead of the Senators in their re-builds? And that's just their own division. To me, your optimism is like that of a NY Jets fan who thinks that their current trajectory places them atop the AFC East in 2024. No context. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Where are you hearing this? Going around the rumor mill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: The first step to respectability is getting out of rock bottom. The Sabres can't just buy their way out with free agents. They have to develop their picks. It takes time. Bringing up the last ten years doesn't make things go faster now. 10 years ago is a better starting point to describe the current Sabres to the Bills. The current Sabres are about where the 2013 Bills were...........the Buddy Nix era..........it will take some more losing and coaching and GM changes.........another iteration of a tear down in 3-4 years.........and nobody on the current roster will probably be with the team when they get into cup contention again in 2030. If everything goes right this time, that is. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 If the Sabres had legitimate goaltending they’d probably be a fringe playoff team right now. They have a ways to go, but goaltending has absolutely held them back — it’s horrid. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 The Sabres need a goalie like the Bills needed a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Tax write off for Pegula with Sabres 1 hour ago, eball said: If the Sabres had legitimate goaltending they’d probably be a fringe playoff team right now. They have a ways to go, but goaltending has absolutely held them back — it’s horrid. If not the defense it’s the wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Helpmenow said: Tax write off for Pegula with Sabres If not the defense it’s the wingers. Goaltending was actually pretty solid to start the season, then we had some injury problems and it was much more up and down. We are nowhere close to a fringe playoff team however, even if we had Dom in his prime. Among many other problems, we are dead last (league wide) in face-off wins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 2/24/2022 at 10:55 AM, Nextmanup said: "We're a mess." "Dave est magané!" 12 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: But actually they are where the Bills were in 2018. Except that the Bills are being run by a real NFL GM while the Sabres are being run by an ex-waitress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I feel bad for the ones who go to the games. The fans just want a winning team and have been waiting and waiting. The fan base has been getting screwed for along time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 8 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: "Dave est magané!" Except that the Bills are being run by a real NFL GM while the Sabres are being run by an ex-waitress. I know fans like to blame Kim Pegula because she’s the team president but I’ve never seen any evidence that Kim is involved in making any hockey decisions. Terry, on the other hand, seems very involved in the hockey ops. He’s the one that sits in every scouting + free agent meeting and gives his opinion. I think Terry is a bigger issue than Kim. But Both just need to stay out of the decision making for the Sabres IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 21 hours ago, BillsPride12 said: Where are you hearing this? Heard this at the home opener tailgate from a member of the Associated Press that covers the Bills and Sabres. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Boy, it’s a good thing Botterill just willingly gave up this kid’s draft rights instead of signing him to an entry level deal, huh? All t would’ve cost was a contract spot. Not like we need good players we drafted or anything. 😡🤬 Botterill was pretty terrible. But part of the issue is also all the turnover in the front office and scouting staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Heard this at the home opener tailgate from a member of the Associated Press that covers the Bills and Sabres. Just say John Wawrow. 10 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: "Dave est magané!" Except that the Bills are being run by a real NFL GM while the Sabres are being run by an ex-waitress. The Sabres are run by Kevin Adams and Jason Karmanos. 19 hours ago, Doc said: The Sabres need a goalie like the Bills needed a QB. They actually need to learn how to play in their end. How to defend and how to leave the zone without turning the puck over. Edited February 28, 2022 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 I'm asking because I have no idea. In a potential Sabres sale are there or can there be safeguards put in place that a franchise existing as a decade long dumpster fire with abysmal attendance wouldn't simply be moved to a more attractive market as part of the sale? I'm sure the Pegulas would do everything they can to keep the Sabres in town as part of a sale, I just don't know how realistic that will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: I'm asking because I have no idea. In a potential Sabres sale are there or can there be safeguards put in place that a franchise existing as a decade long dumpster fire with abysmal attendance wouldn't simply be moved to a more attractive market as part of the sale? I'm sure the Pegulas would do everything they can to keep the Sabres in town as part of a sale, I just don't know how realistic that will be. It was reported that Tom Golisano put a no-move provision in the sale of the Sabres. https://www.espn.com/nhl/news/story?id=6087856 not sure if that applies to future owners too, but if not I don’t see why the Pegulas couldn’t make it a provision of the sale like Golisano did. I also don’t know if Gary Bettman would let the Sabres leave Buffalo anyway. Say what you want about him but he shows true loyalty to NHL markets. He’s already fought for the Sabres to stay in Buffalo. If not for him they would’ve been relocated after the bankruptcy (I was pissed when Buffalo fans booed him at the 2015 draft in Buffalo). He won’t even allow the Coyotes to leave Arizona despite their attendance issues and not having an NHL arena to play in starting next season. They’ll be playing in a 2000 seat state college arena. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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K-9 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 9 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: I know fans like to blame Kim Pegula because she’s the team president but I’ve never seen any evidence that Kim is involved in making any hockey decisions. Terry, on the other hand, seems very involved in the hockey ops. He’s the one that sits in every scouting + free agent meeting and gives his opinion. I think Terry is a bigger issue than Kim. But Both just need to stay out of the decision making for the Sabres IMO. But Terry has experience as a (non skating) hockey coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 49 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: Classic article. Boy I had hopes 3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: I'm asking because I have no idea. In a potential Sabres sale are there or can there be safeguards put in place that a franchise existing as a decade long dumpster fire with abysmal attendance wouldn't simply be moved to a more attractive market as part of the sale? I'm sure the Pegulas would do everything they can to keep the Sabres in town as part of a sale, I just don't know how realistic that will be. The best thing Pegula could do is being just the bills owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 20 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Heard this at the home opener tailgate from a member of the Associated Press that covers the Bills and Sabres. I haven't heard these rumblings yet but would be awesome if true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 17 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: I'm asking because I have no idea. In a potential Sabres sale are there or can there be safeguards put in place that a franchise existing as a decade long dumpster fire with abysmal attendance wouldn't simply be moved to a more attractive market as part of the sale? I'm sure the Pegulas would do everything they can to keep the Sabres in town as part of a sale, I just don't know how realistic that will be. There is maybe one destination the Sabres could move to that would be better than Buffalo. That's Quebec. There is almost 0 chance that this team moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Does Pegula have anything for sale downtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Anybody know who this is? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Anybody know who this is? His first name is Doug. Is he Canadian? Edit: nope. Edited March 1, 2022 by snafu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 im pretty sure is he a real estate developer in buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 29 minutes ago, zevo said: im pretty sure is he a real estate developer in buffalo Per wikipedia he is from Brooklyn and he and his brothers founded "Nobody Beats the Wiz" electronics store. Sold his share before that store tanked in the 90's and made a killing in Washington DC area real estate for a couple decades. Invested HEAVILY in Buffalo area real estate in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 You mean "Nobody Beats the Wiz" was actually a real thing? I always assumed it was made up for Seinfeld. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bad Things said: You mean "Nobody Beats the Wiz" was actually a real thing? I always assumed it was made up for Seinfeld. Seinfeld always used real products and places. I remember the Wiz huge electronics store with tons of TVs Edited March 2, 2022 by TBBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 5 hours ago, TBBills said: Seinfeld always used real products and places. I remember the Wiz huge electronics store with tons of TVs Jerry rocks Klein mountain bikes just like me. The finest MTB IMO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 13 hours ago, CountDorkula said: Anybody know who this is? I heard it’s coming after the bills deal 10 hours ago, zevo said: im pretty sure is he a real estate developer in buffalo Who is buying all kinds of real estate now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Pete said: Jerry rocks Klein mountain bikes just like me. The finest MTB IMO I've had a couple Kleins in my time. Beautiful craftsmanship on each and every one. That said, my old Klein Mantra could be absolutely terrifying on downhills. That rear suspension would get working and in no time, it was like you were riding a pogo stick down the mountain. N'yah! There were also episodes where Jerry had a Cannondale hanging up instead of the Klein. Edited March 2, 2022 by Bad Things 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Bad Things said: I've had a couple Kleins in my time. Beautiful craftsmanship on each and every one. That said, my old Klein Mantra could be absolutely terrifying on downhills. That rear suspension would get working and in no time, it was like you were riding a pogo stick down the mountain. N'yah! There were also episodes where Jerry had a Cannondale hanging up instead of the Klein. Ive had 4 different Kleins. The first one- I won $5000 blackjack in the 1990s, first thing in am I went down and bought a Klein Attitude fully loaded. It has well over 100,000 miles and my favorite. I broke every single part on that bike (have you ever broken a bottom bracket? Bike mechanics were awed I snapped a RaceFace BB)and replaced with top of the line parts. That Klein has fallen off my buddies bike rack 55 mph, its dinged up, the paint is worn off mostly, thats still my favorite. I had a Mantra, and listed it on craigslist. Some dude says "are you by Groton airport?"(I was at that time). Long story short, the guy flies in on two seater plane, with his buddy. He flew in to pick up Klein lol. So he was telling his buddy how special that bike was, and all the updates he was going to do, he was going to paint, he had big plans for it I had a klein attitude I built myself, I sold for $1500- some scumbag said he never receieved it. His mother said he did. That shady dude got me and my perfect rating thrown off ebay. I had another Klein custom Attitude race bike. Some scumbag stole it from our garage. I suspect the painters I digress. Klein F-ing rocks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 And I am very familiar with Cannondale- and Klein and Cannondale are not even in the same universe IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Bad Things said: I've had a couple Kleins in my time. Beautiful craftsmanship on each and every one. That said, my old Klein Mantra could be absolutely terrifying on downhills. That rear suspension would get working and in no time, it was like you were riding a pogo stick down the mountain. N'yah! There were also episodes where Jerry had a Cannondale hanging up instead of the Klein. The Mantra is such a cool looking bike, but your pogo downhill was it's fatal flaw. But I concur the craftsmanship and geometry on Klein's is stellar. Klein's eat up hills. I have a Klein pulse pro I converted to single speed, 48 tooth big chain ring, smallest little chain ring- it's a speed machine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Topic hijacked by bikes. Joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 It's been amazing to see how Tage Thompson transformed his game this season. Still hopeful/optimistic we will see something similar with Dylan Cozens in the next couple years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Beating the leafs is so good!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 On 3/3/2022 at 7:25 AM, Helpmenow said: Beating the leafs is so good!! Hung 5 on the Loafs and another 5 on the Wild. What's gotten into this team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) On 3/1/2022 at 6:18 PM, CountDorkula said: Anybody know who this is? he has been buying up all sorts of property in Buffalo. https://www.wgrz.com/article/money/business/developer-douglas-jemal-continues-to-buy-up-buffalo-wny/71-7cfe3cb8-e0c9-4719-b7da-ea2448b7c44f and he says he loves a challenge… 😂 But he has nowhere near the net worth of Pegula ($150 million). I’d be very very nervous that we’d be headed back to the Golisano days of extreme penny pinching where the profit margin was always the #1 concern. Personally, I don’t know that I want the Pegulas to sell. not sure I buy this rumor anyway. It’s from some random Buffalo fan Twitter account with like 100 followers. There has been a lot of smoke about a sale though. Edited March 5, 2022 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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