It's Time to Mandate Vaccines

[Governor]

That’s my Governor!

 

Murphy to announce N.J. teachers must be vaccinated for COVID, sources say

 

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/08/murphy-to-announce-nj-teachers-must-be-vaccinated-for-covid-sources-say.html

 

 

[Chef Jim]

26 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Oh precious - who are you?

The newest addition to the Billsy fan club it appears. 

[BillStime]

GQP: let the kids die

 

 

[BillStime]

Gotta love desperate red states 

 

 

[TSOL]

[BillStime]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

What is odd to me that no one is discussing how much the passport will negatively effect minorities. Whites are vaccinated at a much higher rate than blacks and especially rich white people compared to poor blacks. The same people who complained how voter ID laws hurt 4% of blacks see no issue with slamming the door on 50% of blacks on a daily basis 

[unbillievable]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

What is odd to me that no one is discussing how much the passport will negatively effect minorities. Whites are vaccinated at a much higher rate than blacks and especially rich white people compared to poor blacks. The same people who complained how voter ID laws hurt 4% of blacks see no issue with slamming the door on 50% of blacks on a daily basis 

 

You need an ID to get vaccinated. It's double racist.

[The Frankish Reich]

20 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Easily one of the top 3 dumbest moments/actions of this sham:

 

 

They weren't dumb AT THE TIME. Remember, the accepted thinking in the early days of all of this (think February/March/April 2020) was that COVID was spread by droplets - something plexiglass shields would contain. Same thing with the 6-foot social distancing, which would at least in theory prevent most droplet transmission. And same too with the incessant wiping down of surfaces. Masks are not so good against aerosols (they're great against droplets), but they have some positive impact.

The problem is we seem to have lost the ability adapt quickly. From Summer 2020 on, it became clear that the primary mode of transmission was through aerosols. And that the primary way to avoid this is to ensure high air turnover rates. So from that time on it became bad policy to focus on plexiglass when we should've been spending our money on ventilation. Same for schools - some schools have improved ventilation, others not at all.

[dpberr]

3 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

What is odd to me that no one is discussing how much the passport will negatively effect minorities. Whites are vaccinated at a much higher rate than blacks and especially rich white people compared to poor blacks. The same people who complained how voter ID laws hurt 4% of blacks see no issue with slamming the door on 50% of blacks on a daily basis 

That's why despite the media's exuberance at NYC's use of it, my guess it's only being followed in places patronized by the upper crust.  Your corner store  in the city doesn't care and won't care. The restaurants and gyms checking for vax status in Philly are for rich white people or those that cater to the crew that work at Thomas Jefferson.

[Orlando Buffalo]

3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

They weren't dumb AT THE TIME. Remember, the accepted thinking in the early days of all of this (think February/March/April 2020) was that COVID was spread by droplets - something plexiglass shields would contain. Same thing with the 6-foot social distancing, which would at least in theory prevent most droplet transmission. And same too with the incessant wiping down of surfaces. Masks are not so good against aerosols (they're great against droplets), but they have some positive impact.

The problem is we seem to have lost the ability adapt quickly. From Summer 2020 on, it became clear that the primary mode of transmission was through aerosols. And that the primary way to avoid this is to ensure high air turnover rates. So from that time on it became bad policy to focus on plexiglass when we should've been spending our money on ventilation. Same for schools - some schools have improved ventilation, others not at all.

You and I agree completely that the biggest issue is that we are not adjusting quickly. When new information comes in the last ones to react are government forces and they usually are making things change based on old info. It is nice to know we can agree on something.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

They weren't dumb AT THE TIME. Remember, the accepted thinking in the early days of all of this (think February/March/April 2020) was that COVID was spread by droplets - something plexiglass shields would contain. Same thing with the 6-foot social distancing, which would at least in theory prevent most droplet transmission. And same too with the incessant wiping down of surfaces. Masks are not so good against aerosols (they're great against droplets), but they have some positive impact.

The problem is we seem to have lost the ability adapt quickly. From Summer 2020 on, it became clear that the primary mode of transmission was through aerosols. And that the primary way to avoid this is to ensure high air turnover rates. So from that time on it became bad policy to focus on plexiglass when we should've been spending our money on ventilation. Same for schools - some schools have improved ventilation, others not at all.

Frankish, I think the biggest scam AT THE TIME was the scientific/political establishment looking the other way/encouraging/participating as tens of thousands of protestors from all walks of life gathered in cities across the country to stand, shoulder to shoulder/arm in arm,  when the political/scientific community was warning the rest of us that two people from three different households traveling the NYS Thruway to meet another location would cause the virus to spread like wildfire and kill your loved ones (and that a 36” square plexiglass shield would keep you super-duper safe).   It made no sense and contributed to the confusion and mistrust we see today with the political/scientific community. 
 

What say you? 
 

Btw, since we’re on the plexiglass divider thing—early on, there was a graphic that showed the impact of an individual coughing or sneezing in a grocery store and the amount of particulate spread.  Of course, we saw in that animation snot bombs spreading over three or four aisles.  Honestly, though I made them for my office and they remain in place still, I have viewed them as the equivalent of hiding under my desk back in grammar school if the big bomb came.  

[Big Blitz]

[Doc Brown]

24 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Took them long enough.  You wonder how many deaths could've been avoided if they didn't have to cut through all the red tape to go from EUA to full FDA approval

[B-Man]

20 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Took them long enough.  You wonder how many deaths could've been avoided if they didn't have to cut through all the red tape to go from EUA to full FDA approval

 

 

5 hours ago, B-Man said:

COVID-19 Exposed America’s Overregulated Health Care System

 

Unfortunately, for millions of Americans suffering from other rare diseases, the time and cost for potentially life-saving drugs and treatments to be approved is insufferable and borders on cruel and unusual punishment.

 

On average, it takes 12 years and $2.6 billion to bring a new drug from lab to market. For many startups, the funding barriers for these rigorous clinical trials are insurmountable. Of course, it is a reasonable mandate that the FDA approve safe and effective drugs for market.

 

Yet, as exemplified during the COVID-19 pandemic, it is possible to expedite approval and bring safe and effective drugs to market faster.

 

Patients suffering from rare diseases like amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) are asking for the same consideration from the FDA. The three COVID-19 vaccines that were approved in record time set a strong and affirmative precedent for other groups of patients; hopefully, this is a new standard that will inspire reform of the current drug approval process, making patient-centered care a top priority that is shielded from bureaucratic delays.

 

A recent study found that during the pandemic, more than 40 percent of patients delayed or avoided medical procedures and appointments out of fear of contracting COVID-19, further exposing how accessibility to care strains the American health care system.

 

Telehealth services, long advocated by American health care system observers, became an option almost overnight. Telehealth services, quite literally, brought health care services into patients’ hands via an app or over the phone.

 

More at the link: https://redstate.com/heartlandinstitute/2021/08/20/covid-19-exposed-americas-overregulated-health-care-system-n429648

 

 

 

[Governor]

7 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

What is odd to me that no one is discussing how much the passport will negatively effect minorities. Whites are vaccinated at a much higher rate than blacks and especially rich white people compared to poor blacks. The same people who complained how voter ID laws hurt 4% of blacks see no issue with slamming the door on 50% of blacks on a daily basis 

Voting is a right.

 

Going to an NFL game isn’t a right.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

40 minutes ago, Governor said:

Voting is a right.

 

Going to an NFL game isn’t a right.

Owning a gun is a right. ID or no? 

[Governor]

5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Owning a gun is a right. ID or no? 

No. I don’t have one.

[Orlando Buffalo]

1 hour ago, Governor said:

Voting is a right.

 

Going to an NFL game isn’t a right.

Going to NFL games is a daily experiences for 50 million Americans every day of the year? Your dishonesty would astound me if I did not know who you are.