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Miyagi-Do Karate Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 8-year vet; played 8 games in 2019 season; tore his achilles in 2020 season. I have my doubts. That said, I think the Colts are stacked on the line, and could slide Fisher into a back-up role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 smart move - they went EDGE like the Bills did in 1st and 2nd round knowing they had Fisher on the hook to plug LT spot with a vet..risk is will he hold up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said: 8-year vet; played 8 games in 2019 season; tore his achilles in 2020 season. I have my doubts. That said, I think the Colts are stacked on the line, and could slide Fisher into a back-up role. Yeah really. Bills D had a very hard time trying to get to Rivers. Definitely have a very good OL there. Never been impressed with Fisher though, so not sure if he will be better than what they have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: 8-year vet; played 8 games in 2019 season; tore his achilles in 2020 season. I have my doubts. That said, I think the Colts are stacked on the line, and could slide Fisher into a back-up role. Lot of money for a backup. They really did have a hole at LT because their guy retired. They were thinking of moving Quentin Nelson over if Fisher is really good, that’s a top 3 OL in Indy. Will make the chiefs look very bad though for cutting him and giving up a 1st round pick to replace him plus a giant pending contract. If he’s not good, it will really affect that OL performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 26 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: 8-year vet; played 8 games in 2019 season; tore his achilles in 2020 season. I have my doubts. That said, I think the Colts are stacked on the line, and could slide Fisher into a back-up role. not for $10M 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Coming back that soon from an Achilles? Good luck. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 34 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: 8-year vet; played 8 games in 2019 season; tore his achilles in 2020 season. I have my doubts. That said, I think the Colts are stacked on the line, and could slide Fisher into a back-up role. His only year missing any significant action was 2019. Before the AFCCG he played all 16 games plus two playoff games in 2020. So I don't think long term durability has been his issue. I think Fischer is a good chance for the Colts to take. They lost their starting LT and didn't draft a tackle in the draft that would be a capable replacement. So going with a vet like Fischer is a sensible chance to take in my opinion. Esp on a one year deal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Lot of money for a backup. They really did have a hole at LT because their guy retired. They were thinking of moving Quentin Nelson over if Fisher is really good, that’s a top 3 OL in Indy. Will make the chiefs look very bad though for cutting him and giving up a 1st round pick to replace him plus a giant pending contract. If he’s not good, it will really affect that OL performance. 8 minutes ago, ganesh said: not for $10M From what I had read of the Colts situation, they have Fisher slated to start. But they have some backups they are really high on who can slide into the starter role if Fisher can’t recover in time. So, I agree they are paying Fisher to be the starter, but I don’t think they are putting all their eggs in that basket too. I have my doubts about him though. I can’t think of a worse injury for an o-lineman— you are on your toes and exerting quite the strain on your Achilles and calf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 I’m worried about Indy, they are putting together a strong team. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: 8-year vet; played 8 games in 2019 season; tore his achilles in 2020 season. I have my doubts. That said, I think the Colts are stacked on the line, and could slide Fisher into a back-up role. A good OL for sure - though I think they’d have visions of starting Fisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, wppete said: I’m worried about Indy, they are putting together a strong team. Yeah will depend on how Wentz does.... Frank R. may be able to get more out of him. Will be interesting to see how that plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, wppete said: I’m worried about Indy, they are putting together a strong team. The transition from Rivers to Wentz bares watching. That’s where the rubber meets the road. Should be interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 38 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: His only year missing any significant action was 2019. Before the AFCCG he played all 16 games plus two playoff games in 2020. So I don't think long term durability has been his issue. I think Fischer is a good chance for the Colts to take. They lost their starting LT and didn't draft a tackle in the draft that would be a capable replacement. So going with a vet like Fischer is a sensible chance to take in my opinion. Esp on a one year deal. He was really healthy until he turned 30 and has had major injury issues each season since then. I wish him well, but this seems like a lot of money for a 31 year old LT playing on 1 leg. Someone needs to tell Chris Ballard it’s not 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, wppete said: I’m worried about Indy, they are putting together a strong team. Except at QB. Wentz is no longer any good and can't stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: 8-year vet; played 8 games in 2019 season; tore his achilles in 2020 season. I have my doubts. That said, I think the Colts are stacked on the line, and could slide Fisher into a back-up role. ? who are you seeing as the Ponies starting LT? Castanzo was a rock for them for years, but he missed 5 games last season including the playoffs, then he retired LT was a hole for them as far as I knew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 meh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, wppete said: I’m worried about Indy, they are putting together a strong team. they have an excellent roster and coaching staff and Wentz had his best years with Reich as OC in Philly then they drafted two EDGE rushers 1 and 2; all this after almost beating us on the road and likely would have if their kicker did not have the worst game of his career...sometimes better to be lucky than good... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Never been a huge Fisher guy, unlikely to be healthy by September, team has a huge need at left tackle. meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, First Round Bust said: they have an excellent roster and coaching staff and Wentz had his best years with Reich as OC in Philly then they drafted two EDGE rushers 1 and 2; all this after almost beating us on the road and likely would have if their kicker did not have the worst game of his career...sometimes better to be lucky than good... Their passing game got barely 4000 yards (not top 10) and they have 3 receivers over 500 yards (one over 700). Only 24 passing TDs and 20th in pass attempts. Not scared. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, Doc said: Except at QB. Wentz is no longer any good and can't stay healthy. Yeah this is where I'm at, especially the healthy part. I do however think Reich has a good chance to get more out of him than Philly did. With that said though, I still don't think he will be good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, First Round Bust said: they have an excellent roster and coaching staff and Wentz had his best years with Reich as OC in Philly then they drafted two EDGE rushers 1 and 2; all this after almost beating us on the road and likely would have if their kicker did not have the worst game of his career...sometimes better to be lucky than good... Wentz did well the 2 years after Reich left, until he lost it last year. And their (undrafted rookie, who was used to kicking indoors) kicker missed a kick and an EP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, wppete said: I’m worried about Indy, they are putting together a strong team. It all depends on Wentz. He's got the supporting cast with the Colts, though. We couldn't get to Rivers because his release was so quick. Wentz isn't the savvy vet Rivers is, but he certainly has all the tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Yeah really. Bills D had a very hard time trying to get to Rivers. Definitely have a very good OL there. Never been impressed with Fisher though, so not sure if he will be better than what they have. The Coltsies were running their backup LT when we played them. I think the "hard time" getting to Rivers had more to do with Rivers being an expert at decoding the Bills zone D, knowing who will likely be open where, and getting the ball out fast. Wentz is going to need more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, wppete said: I’m worried about Indy, they are putting together a strong team. Who’s they’re QB again?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The Coltsies were running their backup LT when we played them. I think the "hard time" getting to Rivers had more to do with Rivers being an expert at decoding the Bills zone D, knowing who will likely be open where, and getting the ball out fast. Wentz is going to need more time. Yeah I remember the LT back-up was in that game. I just thought he did pretty damn good. And you're correct about Rivers, he was great at getting the ball out. Even with Rivers's quick ball release, their OL still played a really good game. Edited May 10, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Wentz or Fisher will not play 16 games... Oops 17. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: ? who are you seeing as the Ponies starting LT? Castanzo was a rock for them for years, but he missed 5 games last season including the playoffs, then he retired LT was a hole for them as far as I knew They got this Tevi in the off-season, who started for the Chargers and who they think can start for them, especially if Fisher takes a while to get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Thats a lot of pressure to protect the china Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Their passing game got barely 4000 yards (not top 10) and they have 3 receivers over 500 yards (one over 700). Only 24 passing TDs and 20th in pass attempts. Not scared. And then they signed the worst Quarterback in the league in 2020..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 He was a good signing for the Colts. At this point in time, after the bulk of free agency and the Draft, Fisher was probably the best option out there for them. Now we just have to see if he has had enough time to recover from his injury and regain his form. He's a solid NFL tackle when he's healthy. I'm imagine getting to line up next to Quenton Nelson on every snap will help a bit too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: He was a good signing for the Colts. At this point in time, after the bulk of free agency and the Draft, Fisher was probably the best option out there for them. Now we just have to see if he has had enough time to recover from his injury and regain his form. He's a solid NFL tackle when he's healthy. I'm imagine getting to line up next to Quenton Nelson on every snap will help a bit too... If he doesn't get on the field until November it is not a good signing. If he gets healthy his price is not stupid and agree Nelson helps others look good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: They got this Tevi in the off-season, who started for the Chargers and who they think can start for them, especially if Fisher takes a while to get back. The Chargers liked him so much at LT they let him walk for $2.5M......which you don't do for a guy you think can start for you long-term. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The Chargers liked him so much at LT they let him walk for $2.5M......which you don't do for a guy you think can start for you long-term. Tevi sucks. If the Colts start him old happy feet Carson will be spinning like a top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Signing players who are broken physically and/or mentally at the two most important positions isn't generally a recipe for success. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 5 hours ago, wppete said: I’m worried about Indy, they are putting together a strong team. Yup. If Wentz can return to some level of form, they will be very dangerous. I see them as the biggest threat to us moving forward. Reich is a very good coach and they are a well run franchise. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 wentz looked like a guy with his one foot out of the nfl last year, but if reich can get him to play well, the colts really do have the most complete roster in the NFL. maybe less super star individuals, but just outstanding linemen, linebackers, solid RB and TE, decent WR, can cover some (perhaps their real weakness), and a really smart coach w a balanced game plan. i really hope the big super talent rookies we drafted will gel enough so that by the playoffs they can be weapons so we can impose a little will on teams like the colts and win it walking away once we are up large in the 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 20 hours ago, Bakin said: Yup. If Wentz can return to some level of form, they will be very dangerous. I see them as the biggest threat to us moving forward. Reich is a very good coach and they are a well run franchise. More than KC?? Come on. 1 hour ago, colin said: wentz looked like a guy with his one foot out of the nfl last year, but if reich can get him to play well, the colts really do have the most complete roster in the NFL. maybe less super star individuals, but just outstanding linemen, linebackers, solid RB and TE, decent WR, can cover some (perhaps their real weakness), and a really smart coach w a balanced game plan. i really hope the big super talent rookies we drafted will gel enough so that by the playoffs they can be weapons so we can impose a little will on teams like the colts and win it walking away once we are up large in the 2nd half. How can they have "the most complete roster in the NFL"?? "weak" coverage. Average WRs. Mediocre passing game last year with a better passer than they just brought in. This doesn't make sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: More than KC?? Come on. How can they have "the most complete roster in the NFL"?? "weak" coverage. Average WRs. Mediocre passing game last year with a better passer than they just brought in. This doesn't make sense. because no body is perfect. look at the team stats, w old man rivers at qb they were the only team in the playoffs w a top 10 O and top 10 D, and they gave us a real good shot, but josh allen pulled off a miracle and the D finally made a second half stop. KC has a sick roster, but it's stars and then just whoever everywhere else on the roster. indy has more breadth than anyone else, that's how it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, colin said: because no body is perfect. look at the team stats, w old man rivers at qb they were the only team in the playoffs w a top 10 O and top 10 D, and they gave us a real good shot, but josh allen pulled off a miracle and the D finally made a second half stop. KC has a sick roster, but it's stars and then just whoever everywhere else on the roster. indy has more breadth than anyone else, that's how it makes sense. Only one with top 10 in O and D? GB had that. So did Tampa. Saints were #5 in points scored and #5 in lowest points allowed. KC, Tampa, GB, Buffalo are better because they have "stars" at skill positions. You said best roster. The Bills have a better team and, after struggling some, put them away. It's not even a top 5 roster. Their Offense doesn't throw the ball. Now they got a QB who can't throw any more. Josh Allen is a more valuable runner than every RB on the Colts roster but 1---and this was Josh's lowest rushing season yet. This Colts fear here is reaching pandemic levels. Carson Wentz, one would assume, should have been adequate vaccination for this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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