Mr. WEO Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 On 5/8/2021 at 7:41 PM, scuba guy said: And st john fisher is in Pittsford and has nothing to do with the city of Rochester (a little higher end clientele) I will be seeing the ad on Monday put I did not here anything to say a no. wut? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 On 5/8/2021 at 7:41 PM, scuba guy said: So st john fisher college ended classes on Thursday 1) all classes were optional re: zoom or in person 2) all students were tested on campus every Wednesday 3) no extra people were allowed on campus at all re: doorm parties (were they drink milk and cookies) 4) when students left the doorm on Thursday only one extra person was allowed into the doorm room to help clean out and carry stuff. 5) all students while on campus were required to have asked on at all times 6) only 1 cafeteria on campus was open. And st john fisher is in Pittsford and has nothing to do with the city of Rochester (a little higher end clientele) I will be seeing the ad on Monday put I did not here anything to say a no. This post is extremely confusing. You list all the precautions SJF has done for their paying students. What about that list makes you think they'd be comfortable busing in crowds of the general public to spectate a football team? Btw Pittsford is a township of the city of Rochester. "Higher clientele" (which is pretty offensive) or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Btw Pittsford is a township of the city of Rochester. Directly from the Pittsford website, "The Town of Pittsford is located in the southeastern portion of Monroe County in upstate New York. Rochester is the closest metropolitan area and is approximately eight miles to the northwest". Definitely not part of City of Rochester, Pittsford is an upscale bedroom community with a Clarence, Orchard Park or East Aurora feel to it. Second wealthiest zip code in Rochester area. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: This post is extremely confusing. You list all the precautions SJF has done for their paying students. What about that list makes you think they'd be comfortable busing in crowds of the general public to spectate a football team? Btw Pittsford is a township of the city of Rochester. "Higher clientele" (which is pretty offensive) or not. My statement is what the school did for there students not anything about bussing or the logistics of having camp at the college. Pittsford is a town in Monroe County Not a township of the city of Rochester Higher end clientele meaning The Sands The Wegmans The Reidmans Wilmorite Oak hill cc Monroe cc 1 minute ago, freddyjj said: Directly from the Pittsford website, "The Town of Pittsford is located in the southeastern portion of Monroe County in upstate New York. Rochester is the closest metropolitan area and is approximately eight miles to the northwest". Definitely not part of City of Rochester, Pittsford is an upscale bedroom community with a Clarence, Orchard Park or East Aurora feel to it. Second wealthiest zip code in Rochester area. Thank you 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, freddyjj said: Directly from the Pittsford website, "The Town of Pittsford is located in the southeastern portion of Monroe County in upstate New York. Rochester is the closest metropolitan area and is approximately eight miles to the northwest". Definitely not part of City of Rochester, Pittsford is an upscale bedroom community with a Clarence, Orchard Park or East Aurora feel to it. Second wealthiest zip code in Rochester area. It's a village... in the suburbs of Rochester. "The Village of Pittsford is the oldest village in New York incorporated in 1827. The village, an Erie Canal community, is in the Town of Pittsford. Pittsford is a suburb of Rochester, NY." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsford_(village),_New_York Also funny how their urgent care is the University of Rochester https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/urgent-care/ And what exactly does these "upscale bedroom community" and "higher end clientele" comments have to do with anything in regards to the pandemic and whether or not Training Camp will be held? Do you live in Rochester? Or excuse me, one of the many towns and villages that comprise it? Because I do. Actually, I live in Irondequoit. But you know what it says on my mail? Rochester, NY. No one around here says Irondequoit, Greece, Pittsford, Gates, Fairport, etc are not Rochester. Rochester is not just some 10 mile stretch downtown. Edited May 10, 2021 by BillsFanForever19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRifle Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) So, does anyone know if the Bills will even attempt to go to SJF this year? From everything I’m reading in this thread, it seems like no one really knows for sure.... Edited May 10, 2021 by AmishRifle Grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, AmishRifle said: So, does anyone know if the Bills will even attempt to go to SJF this year? From everything I’m reading in this thread, it seems like no one really knows for sure.... No. I did hear a little bit of one bills live today and Chris brown seemed to be pumping it up ... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRifle Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: No. I did hear a little bit of one bills live today and Chris brown seemed to be pumping it up ... Thanks Yolo! Also, I want you to know that I personally appreciate everything you do for this board. Thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: It's a village... in the suburbs of Rochester. "The Village of Pittsford is the oldest village in New York incorporated in 1827. The village, an Erie Canal community, is in the Town of Pittsford. Pittsford is a suburb of Rochester, NY." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsford_(village),_New_York Also funny how their urgent care is the University of Rochester https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/urgent-care/ And what exactly does these "upscale bedroom community" and "higher end clientele" comments have to do with anything in regards to the pandemic and whether or not Training Camp will be held? Do you live in Rochester? Or excuse me, one of the many towns and villages that comprise it? Because I do. Actually, I live in Irondequoit. But you know what it says on my mail? Rochester, NY. No one around here says Irondequoit, Greece, Pittsford, Gates, Fairport, etc are not Rochester. Rochester is not just some 10 mile stretch downtown. Lighten up Francis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 While I empathize with the Rochester area fans about SJF that era of Buffalo Bills football seems to be at an end. The positive is they got a state-of-the-art facility to train and recover in so that seems best for the success of the team. Also, as much as I enjoy hearing about camp news if they want a more private practice situation it's fine with me. Winning playoff games is the goal not summer practice in front of fans. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 18 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: It's a village... in the suburbs of Rochester. "The Village of Pittsford is the oldest village in New York incorporated in 1827. The village, an Erie Canal community, is in the Town of Pittsford. Pittsford is a suburb of Rochester, NY." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsford_(village),_New_York Also funny how their urgent care is the University of Rochester https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/urgent-care/ And what exactly does these "upscale bedroom community" and "higher end clientele" comments have to do with anything in regards to the pandemic and whether or not Training Camp will be held? Do you live in Rochester? Or excuse me, one of the many towns and villages that comprise it? Because I do. Actually, I live in Irondequoit. But you know what it says on my mail? Rochester, NY. No one around here says Irondequoit, Greece, Pittsford, Gates, Fairport, etc are not Rochester. Rochester is not just some 10 mile stretch downtown. Word. I was born and raised in Penfield. But when asked where I'm from, I will always say "Rochester." That's what anyone from one of those towns would say. Now, I live in Los Angeles. But, in fact, I live in Kagel Canyon. Saying Pittsford isn't part of Rochester is kind of like saying Inglewood (location of SoFi Stadium) isn't part of Los Angeles. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 15 hours ago, AmishRifle said: Thanks Yolo! Also, I want you to know that I personally appreciate everything you do for this board. Thank you! If you’re sucking up to Yolo, the line ends about 6 blocks south, then turn right for another 3 blocks. (it WAS a lot longer, but the WNY weather sucks!) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 I went to training camp a few years back with my dad, the first year Robert Foster was on the roster. Foster was signing autographs and my dad shook his hand & said "son, your going to be a superstar in this league." Foster looked at him like he had two heads & said "you really think so?" Kind of a funny moment. Training Camp is a unique experience, but like a lot of things in today's world it takes a back seat to technology and convenience. Unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: Word. I was born and raised in Penfield. But when asked where I'm from, I will always say "Rochester." That's what anyone from one of those towns would say. Now, I live in Los Angeles. But, in fact, I live in Kagel Canyon. Saying Pittsford isn't part of Rochester is kind of like saying Inglewood (location of SoFi Stadium) isn't part of Los Angeles. Yup. It's silly to say "I'm from Penfield/Pittsford" etc. Because the next question is "where's that" and the answer is "it's a suburb or Rochester." 44 minutes ago, Gordio said: I went to training camp a few years back with my dad, the first year Robert Foster was on the roster. Foster was signing autographs and my dad shook his hand & said "son, your going to be a superstar in this league." Foster looked at him like he had two heads & said "you really think so?" Kind of a funny moment. Training Camp is a unique experience, but like a lot of things in today's world it takes a back seat to technology and convenience. Unfortunately. Thank your dad for jinxing him! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 18 hours ago, AmishRifle said: Thanks Yolo! Also, I want you to know that I personally appreciate everything you do for this board. Thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 On 5/8/2021 at 10:18 AM, Not at the table Karlos said: Keep it at the stadium and keep fans and media away. uh yeah because why would you want to include fans and the media? smh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 As an out-of-stater, training camp locale doesn't affect me, one way or the other. I would love to root for you locals to get as much access as you can stand. But I can't. I'm rooting for whatever gives the Bills the best chance to win it all this year. And I trust McBeane to make the right choice. Our championship window starts slipping downward next year, when Josh and Tremaine will cost a combined $35mil (which will be a bargain compared to the following years). Public relations cannot be a priority this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 While SJF is a nice campus and they do a great job of hosting camp, I don't think the whole going away to bond and practice for three weeks really has any benefit anymore. We saw that last year with the rona forcing camps to be at stadiums. That makes it easier on the players, especially ones with families. They can go home at the end of the day instead of back to a dorm. I really hope we don't do this giant rush to "get back to normal." Clearly we found ways to make stuff work with the world shut down. Found some more efficient ways to do things that should be introduced into a new kind of normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Flanders Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 On 5/8/2021 at 12:24 PM, Mr. WEO said: It's great at SJF. Although the overall quality took a dive after Wegmans bailed out. I wonder how that happened? Word I heard was that Danny became very close with Doug Flutie and his family (remember Flutie's Favorite Subs?). Danny then became disenchanted with Ralph in 2000, when Flutie was benched for the Tenny playoff game and pretty much the 2000 season. Danny vowed to have little or nothing to do with the team after that point. Again, this is all hearsay, but it is odd that Wegmans has little to do with the one entity that puts, and keeps, Buffalo on the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, blacklabel said: While SJF is a nice campus and they do a great job of hosting camp, I don't think the whole going away to bond and practice for three weeks really has any benefit anymore. We saw that last year with the rona forcing camps to be at stadiums. That makes it easier on the players, especially ones with families. They can go home at the end of the day instead of back to a dorm. I really hope we don't do this giant rush to "get back to normal." Clearly we found ways to make stuff work with the world shut down. Found some more efficient ways to do things that should be introduced into a new kind of normal. I will say this again for everyone. The NFL does very little anymore that allows access to players and teams without paying for it. Training Camps are literally the last bastion for that experience and for families with kids to get exposure they otherwise won't to plays. This goes beyond the Bills and in general many people become fans of certain teams or even just football in general because of the ability to interact in such a close loose setting. Similar to the way preseason games are a low cost opportunity for young fans, removing these things will keep isolating the NFL more and more where people who have money are the only ones that get an opportunity to see their team up close and it will have harm to their long term fanbase. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Ned Flanders said: Word I heard was that Danny became very close with Doug Flutie and his family (remember Flutie's Favorite Subs?). Danny then became disenchanted with Ralph in 2000, when Flutie was benched for the Tenny playoff game and pretty much the 2000 season. Danny vowed to have little or nothing to do with the team after that point. Again, this is all hearsay, but it is odd that Wegmans has little to do with the one entity that puts, and keeps, Buffalo on the map. They continued to sponsor until 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Flanders Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: They continued to sponsor until 2002. Most likely a multi-year contract with little interaction by Danny in 2001/2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Ned Flanders said: Most likely a multi-year contract with little interaction by Danny in 2001/2002. I don’t think they cut the cord almost 3 years later because of Flutie.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 11:10 AM, corta765 said: I will say this again for everyone. The NFL does very little anymore that allows access to players and teams without paying for it. Training Camps are literally the last bastion for that experience and for families with kids to get exposure they otherwise won't to plays. This goes beyond the Bills and in general many people become fans of certain teams or even just football in general because of the ability to interact in such a close loose setting. Similar to the way preseason games are a low cost opportunity for young fans, removing these things will keep isolating the NFL more and more where people who have money are the only ones that get an opportunity to see their team up close and it will have harm to their long term fanbase. Fair points. I wasn't necessarily saying they should roll with what they did for 2020 as the new normal. Teams can still create a fun and immersive camp experience at their stadiums or facilities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share Posted May 14, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 11:10 AM, corta765 said: I will say this again for everyone. The NFL does very little anymore that allows access to players and teams without paying for it. Training Camps are literally the last bastion for that experience and for families with kids to get exposure they otherwise won't to plays. This goes beyond the Bills and in general many people become fans of certain teams or even just football in general because of the ability to interact in such a close loose setting. Similar to the way preseason games are a low cost opportunity for young fans, removing these things will keep isolating the NFL more and more where people who have money are the only ones that get an opportunity to see their team up close and it will have harm to their long term fanbase. Preseason is also a low cost opportunity for old fans! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 11:10 AM, corta765 said: I will say this again for everyone. The NFL does very little anymore that allows access to players and teams without paying for it. Training Camps are literally the last bastion for that experience and for families with kids to get exposure they otherwise won't to plays. This goes beyond the Bills and in general many people become fans of certain teams or even just football in general because of the ability to interact in such a close loose setting. Similar to the way preseason games are a low cost opportunity for young fans, removing these things will keep isolating the NFL more and more where people who have money are the only ones that get an opportunity to see their team up close and it will have harm to their long term fanbase. The NFL isn't preventing Pegula from allowing free admission to training camp.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 36 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The NFL isn't preventing Pegula from allowing free admission to training camp.... Neither is Pegula... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 11:10 AM, corta765 said: I will say this again for everyone. The NFL does very little anymore that allows access to players and teams without paying for it. Training Camps are literally the last bastion for that experience and for families with kids to get exposure they otherwise won't to plays. This goes beyond the Bills and in general many people become fans of certain teams or even just football in general because of the ability to interact in such a close loose setting. Similar to the way preseason games are a low cost opportunity for young fans, removing these things will keep isolating the NFL more and more where people who have money are the only ones that get an opportunity to see their team up close and it will have harm to their long term fanbase. Ehh........this seems like an old-fashioned take................young fans live a much different life than you might have and don't need to experience things in person to develop an interest. They get to know a lot about players and how they relate to them thru social media...........there is constant new content online and on tv about the team and players...........the video is 4K so it's better access and visibility than you can get in person. This isn't 1978 watching the Bills on a black and white TV while constantly moving the rabbit ears so you could make out the shapes on the screen during the season and then the team disappearing from site entirely for 7 months after the season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Doc said: Neither is Pegula... I didn’t infer otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: I didn’t infer otherwise No, you seemed to imply it with the "..." at the end. Otherwise it made no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Doc said: No, you seemed to imply it with the "..." at the end. Otherwise it made no sense. The NFL isn't making any team charge for camp admission (i.e. preventing them from allowing free admission...). The post I was responding to was beefing about the NFL nickel and diming fans for every thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/14/2021 at 9:00 PM, BADOLBILZ said: Ehh........this seems like an old-fashioned take................young fans live a much different life than you might have and don't need to experience things in person to develop an interest. They get to know a lot about players and how they relate to them thru social media...........there is constant new content online and on tv about the team and players...........the video is 4K so it's better access and visibility than you can get in person. This isn't 1978 watching the Bills on a black and white TV while constantly moving the rabbit ears so you could make out the shapes on the screen during the season and then the team disappearing from site entirely for 7 months after the season. then why do fans flood autograph signings and opportunities to meet the players in person? If you really don’t think a young family or really any fan going to training camp and meeting a player up close doesn’t have a major impact your fooling yourself. I got to hang with Zo in 2019 for a few seconds against the fence and get a picture with him. It was super cool and I am not getting that opportunity at many other occasions unless I’m paying $50 or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/12/2021 at 11:10 AM, corta765 said: I will say this again for everyone. The NFL does very little anymore that allows access to players and teams without paying for it. Training Camps are literally the last bastion for that experience and for families with kids to get exposure they otherwise won't to plays. This goes beyond the Bills and in general many people become fans of certain teams or even just football in general because of the ability to interact in such a close loose setting. Similar to the way preseason games are a low cost opportunity for young fans, removing these things will keep isolating the NFL more and more where people who have money are the only ones that get an opportunity to see their team up close and it will have harm to their long term fanbase. I would rather they focused on their job and everyone cheer from the stands on GameDay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, corta765 said: then why do fans flood autograph signings and opportunities to meet the players in person? If you really don’t think a young family or really any fan going to training camp and meeting a player up close doesn’t have a major impact your fooling yourself. I got to hang with Zo in 2019 for a few seconds against the fence and get a picture with him. It was super cool and I am not getting that opportunity at many other occasions unless I’m paying $50 or something like that I'm not saying it doesn't still have entertainment value but I don't think it has near the impact or is as important to building a young fanbase as it was when I was a kid in the 80's. We were info starved. Games were often blacked out. That's not the case for kids nowadays. Every Bills game is on TV. There is year round programming about the team. The social media feed is nonstop. As is the amount of new and archived online info on the team and it's players. It's overwhelming and most of it is free if you have internet access and network tv you don't miss much. You merely overstated the significance of it in cultivating new fans. And I don't get the part about you getting a picture with Zo.........you are an adult, no? Maybe that takes you back to being a kid yourself? But how is that pertinent to your larger point about the NFL needing to reach young viewers that way? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Interesting to hear Catalana say that McBeane like camp at SJF. I've heard it claimed that McD at least doesn't. I can't see it not happening. But obviously it won't be like before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Doc said: Interesting to hear Catalana say that McBeane like camp at SJF. I've heard it claimed that McD at least doesn't. I can't see it not happening. But obviously it won't be like before. At least from my perspective, I’ve kind of assumed that at this point they don’t need the “team building” nature of the close knit college campus for TC like they did in the formative years and would now just like to ride with the facilities in OP, but I don’t have any tangible evidence to support my theory. Looks like they may be back, at least for one more year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: At least from my perspective, I’ve kind of assumed that at this point they don’t need the “team building” nature of the close knit college campus for TC like they did in the formative years and would now just like to ride with the facilities in OP, but I don’t have any tangible evidence to support my theory. Looks like they may be back, at least for one more year I'd believe Catalana's words. I doubt he'd be saying it if it weren't true. And again, Kim is from Fairport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 As for it being for one year or not needing it, it's worked so far. Why change it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 It would suck for all my fellow Rochesterians to no longer be able to easily attend camp but the whole era of SJF training camps was abysmal. First year without a SJF camp and we go to the AFC Championship game. Why chance it? I'm not superstitious but I am a little stitious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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