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7 minutes ago, biggerdaddynj said:


but aren’t we supposed to go BPA not one of four top need guys.  Not hating just hate to hear BPA, BPA and we go need,  JOK was top on board even if we have Milano locked up imagine the schemes with the two of them?  Leslie couldn’t, I guess.  
 

That said, I trust Beane except with ex-Panthers.   😉

 

I've heard Beane say yes the mentality is bpa. However, if bpa is close to the biggest need on the team he is willing to shift. He is a man of his word. 

Respect Brandon Beane.

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Farley  couldn’t attend the draft because he tested positive for Covid. Figures the titans take him. 🙄

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Awful selection.  Slow, stiff DE with no suddenness or explosion, so we take him ahead of one of the most explosive and athletic ILB’s in the draft and who is still on the board (JOK).  Complete *****-the-bed pick that screams “*****, everyone we wanted is gone, so let’s go full-Buffalo and draft another D-lineman.”  Very uninspiring. Arguably the worst Buffalo pick since McCargo.

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9 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

There are no Bryant and Stratton Golden Nanny Goats either, Mup, but you don’t see me crying out in anguish for all the world to see, do ya?  
 

The Irish are birthed into a life of pain and misery.  We. Move. On. 
 

 

weeping and gnashing of teeth that's me...nah lol  besides there's always tomorrow they may pick the domer TE Tremble :-)))

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Just now, mjdotson said:

Awful selection.  Slow, stiff DE with no suddenness or explosion, so we take him ahead of one of the most explosive and athletic ILB’s in the draft and who is still on the board (JOK).  Complete *****-the-bed pick that screams “*****, everyone we wanted is gone, so let’s go full-Buffalo and draft another D-lineman.”  Very uninspiring. Arguably the worst Buffalo pick since McCargo.


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I've continually heard Rousseau compared to Calais Campbell as a prospect...Some believe he'll be best gaining weight and rushing from the inside exclusively on obvious passing downs. Beane just mentioned he would move inside in the Nickle D...But Beane also said he figured Rousseau would stay around 260-270...

 

This is definitely a trust the process pick...I doubt very much he would have been available at #30 had he played last year...Maybe it would have been 15-25 and not top 10 like some had him after 2019...But probably not 30...B-)

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12 minutes ago, beerme1 said:

 

I've heard Beane say yes the mentality is bpa. However, if bpa is close to the biggest need on the team he is willing to shift. He is a man of his word. 

Respect Brandon Beane.

Lol. As I said in another thread, Beane lies to you all the time and this board laps it up. He drafted straight need which is exaclty what he should do.  They need to get younger on the DL. This kid has the height and the production you want out of your modern 4-3 DE. 

It's clear they have no intent to move away from Edmunds at MLB. 

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I’m indifferent. I guess I gotta trust the process. However I’ve been somewhat underwhelmed by Oliver, Edmunds and AJ... so I’m really hoping I’m wrong about them or Rousseau is a stud. 
 

just wonder if we could’ve traded back a few spots and gotten him there..

 

but if he was their guy, he was their guy. 

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1 minute ago, Playoffs? said:

I’m indifferent. I guess I gotta trust the process. However I’ve been somewhat underwhelmed by Oliver, Edmunds and AJ... so I’m really hoping I’m wrong about them or Rousseau is a stud. 
 

just wonder if we could’ve traded back a few spots and gotten him there..

 

but if he was their guy, he was their guy. 


i agree with Edmunds. The others I’m still I wait and see mode. 
 

but Rousseau is exactly what McDermott and beane like in a DE going back to Carolina. Heavy handed, power rusher with the length to cause some fumbles and stop the run. 

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8 minutes ago, beerme1 said:

 

I've heard Beane say yes the mentality is bpa. However, if bpa is close to the biggest need on the team he is willing to shift. He is a man of his word. 

Respect Brandon Beane.


I hope you’re right, I really do.  But when a dynamic top 15 player with no med or character issues falls to 30 and we can still pick up an edge rusher in the 2nd who we can coach up (JOK’s talent isn’t coachable) I think of the havoc Milano and JOK could cause (as Tremaine wanders around confused until they fix the scheme to use his uncoachable talents and maybe JOK would have caused the scheme fix).  
 

Now tomorrow we need to get a CB, DT, OL, WR and a shot in the dark TE (I’d say BPA but need is where we went last time so...).  And, I know Rousseau was a top edge rusher and we need one but this was a weak year and isn’t that based on one year’s production?  Many teams have been down that road before. 
 

Trust me I hope I’m wrong, I want Rousseau to be a stud and will root for him.  Long emotional day! Excuse me gents...

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17 minutes ago, mjdotson said:

Awful selection.  Slow, stiff DE with no suddenness or explosion, so we take him ahead of one of the most explosive and athletic ILB’s in the draft and who is still on the board (JOK).  Complete *****-the-bed pick that screams “*****, everyone we wanted is gone, so let’s go full-Buffalo and draft another D-lineman.”  Very uninspiring. Arguably the worst Buffalo pick since McCargo.


James Hardy and Jeff Tuel.  But they weren’t first round picks when we’re one game away from the SB.  BPA.  BPA.  BPA. Can’t coach what JOK has and has shown on the field.

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21 minutes ago, mjdotson said:

Awful selection.  Slow, stiff DE with no suddenness or explosion, so we take him ahead of one of the most explosive and athletic ILB’s in the draft and who is still on the board (JOK).  Complete *****-the-bed pick that screams “*****, everyone we wanted is gone, so let’s go full-Buffalo and draft another D-lineman.”  Very uninspiring. Arguably the worst Buffalo pick since McCargo.

LOL, I doubt it's McCargo, either way.  But love the fire'y-hot take you dished up!  I don't know why, but I giggle at people like you.

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26 minutes ago, mjdotson said:

Awful selection.  Slow, stiff DE with no suddenness or explosion, so we take him ahead of one of the most explosive and athletic ILB’s in the draft and who is still on the board (JOK).  Complete *****-the-bed pick that screams “*****, everyone we wanted is gone, so let’s go full-Buffalo and draft another D-lineman.”  Very uninspiring. Arguably the worst Buffalo pick since McCargo.

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I think Miami upgraded in general, but we countered tiny Tua with a giant edge presence. Almost seems like both Miami and Buffalo were laser focused on each other considering their Jaelen Phillips pick, which I do really like. I think that could be the most impactful pick against us so far, especially in the short term.

 

But Tua, man. How are you going to make that work? Miami's got to know this, right? Could they try to swing a QB in the next couple of days? He's 6 foot maybe and wasn't good last year, I'm more interested to see what Miami does than I've been in a decade at least.

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2 minutes ago, Nelius said:

I think Miami upgraded in general, but we countered tiny Tua with a giant edge presence. Almost seems like both Miami and Buffalo were laser focused on each other considering their Jaelen Phillips pick, which I do really like. I think that could be the most impactful pick against us so far, especially in the short term.

 

But Tua, man. How are you going to make that work? Miami's got to know this, right? Could they try to swing a QB in the next couple of days? He's 6 foot maybe and wasn't good last year, I'm more interested to see what Miami does than I've been in a decade at least.


I think Miami did great.  I mean it is hard to screw up on day 1 with those high picks.

 

At the end of the day Tua will make or break this team. 

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41 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

I've continually heard Rousseau compared to Calais Campbell as a prospect...Some believe he'll be best gaining weight and rushing from the inside exclusively on obvious passing downs. Beane just mentioned he would move inside in the Nickle D...But Beane also said he figured Rousseau would stay around 260-270...

 

This is definitely a trust the process pick...I doubt very much he would have been available at #30 had he played last year...Maybe it would have been 15-25 and not top 10 like some had him after 2019...But probably not 30...B-)

 

 

 

I will say this...........as a Miami fan.........Jaelan Phillips was a POOR substitute for Greg Rousseau.    

 

Rousseau opting out was a dagger to the program.   

 

Rousseau had barely ever played DL in a game prior to the 2019 season and then did what he did while not being a starter until half way thru the season.

 

Phillips is the better athlete but he just didn't make NEARLY enough plays.   And I don't know how the narrative came out that Phillips was a player against the run..........but nope.  It was pass rush or fail for Phillips.   That's not the case with Rousseau. 

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