Georgia election laws and MLB

[SectionC3]

37 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

No explanation?  You just don't like my explanation and that's ok.  I don't expect you to like anything I post.  Carry on counselor.  

 

Once again, Chef Jim Crow requires translation.  What he meant to communicate is that he still doesn’t have an explanation as to the problem the GA law is intended to address, and he attempts to avoid that issue through deceit.  

 

And this guy thought he could be my financial advisor.  Perish the thought. 

[TH3]

3 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

There is no real problem?  So the 2020 Primaries and General in GA went swimmingly well?  How's the hell do you breath with your head so far up your ass?  

 

Again late to the show and pointing out things that have already been discussed.   Do you homework counselor.  

So....when the exclusively GOP legislators crafted this legislation ...did they go to ...you know....the urban and ethnic sections of the state and ask them... you know because they are citizens too....what they think should happen at elections...you know...how to make them run smoother, make it quicker to vote?

 

I will go out on a limb and say no. That is all you have to know....and that is why it is rightly condemned.

[Wacka]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

 

  What he meant to communicate is that he still doesn’t have an explanation as to the problem the GA law is intended to address, and he attempts to avoid that issue through deceit.  

 

The issue is to stop one party rule in the US, which you communists want.

[Unforgiven]

MLB moves All-Star Game from Atlanta to one of the whitest cities in America…

 

Atlanta is a black-majority city, with 51% of its population black.

Denver is one of America’s whitest major cities; just over 9% of Denver is black.

 

 

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:

MLB moves All-Star Game from Atlanta to one of the whitest cities in America…

 

Atlanta is a black-majority city, with 51% of its population black.

Denver is one of America’s whitest major cities; just over 9% of Denver is black.

 

 

 

And $100M in revenue will be lost, hurting a good number of minority-owned businesses.  Well-played, Robbie!

[B-Man]

 

 

We didn't know, they whined.............

 

 

 

 

 

They will throw some money at them, that always works.

 

Them = Liberals.

[Doc]

Stupid decisions based on feelz have consequences...

[BillStime]

18 minutes ago, Doc said:

Stupid decisions based on feelz have consequences...

 

I know.

 

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, TH3 said:

So....when the exclusively GOP legislators crafted this legislation ...did they go to ...you know....the urban and ethnic sections of the state and ask them... you know because they are citizens too....what they think should happen at elections...you know...how to make them run smoother, make it quicker to vote?

 

I will go out on a limb and say no. That is all you have to know....and that is why it is rightly condemned.

 

Condemn it all you want.  Say that the GOP didn't talk to the inner city folks all you like.  You have no proof they did not but lets say they didn't.  Does THAT make it racist?  I think not. A wise man not too long ago said "elections have consequences."  You don't like the way the GOP operates that's fine.  I don't like the way they operate either.  Kick 'em out like was done in the Presidential election.  

[B-Man]

1 hour ago, TH3 said:

So....when the exclusively GOP legislators crafted this legislation ...did they go to ...you know....the urban and ethnic sections of the state and ask them... you know because they are citizens too....what they think should happen at elections...you know...how to make them run smoother, make it quicker to vote?

 

I will go out on a limb and say no. That is all you have to know....and that is why it is rightly condemned.

 

Just breathtakingly blind.......

 

 

 

Those sections of the state have elected officials just like everyone else.

 

Did they speak with their constituents you mean.

 

[SectionC3]

25 minutes ago, Doc said:

Stupid decisions based on feelz have consequences...

 

You're right.  Trying to wish a pandemic away with magic and malarial treatments has caused a big problem.  

 

Carry on. 

1 hour ago, Wacka said:

The issue is to stop one party rule in the US, which you communists want.

 

I reject your characterization of me as a communist.  I note, however, that you agree that the GA law is intended to rig elections in that state.  Thank you for your admission. 

 

Carry on. 

[Chef Jim]

3 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Once again, Chef Jim Crow requires translation.  What he meant to communicate is that he still doesn’t have an explanation as to the problem the GA law is intended to address, and he attempts to avoid that issue through deceit.  

 

And this guy thought he could be my financial advisor.  Perish the thought. 

 

Again I've explained the problems the GA law was intended to address.  Go find it and read it.   You still won't like it because it came from me.  I could tell you the sky is blue and you'd push back.  So I really won't waste my time.  You're not worth it.  Do your work.

 

Regarding being your advisor?  I have three criteria:

 

1.  I need to like you.

2. You need a lot of money.

3.  They don't ask me if I beat the S&P 

 

Even if someone passes one and two but not three I kick them to the curb.  You, for a fact fail two of the three.  So curb meet SectionC3

 

EDIT:  BTW you have no idea what I've been railing about this how time do you?  Once you figure it out come back and talk to me. 

Edited April 7, 2021 by Chef Jim

[Doc]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

You're right.  Trying to wish a pandemic away with magic and malarial treatments has caused a big problem.  

 

Carry on.

 

Big problems were caused by China lying, no PPE, Fauci lying, NYC not being closed down quick enough and riots during the summer.

 

Carry on.

[Backintheday544]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

Stupid decisions based on feelz have consequences...

Isnt that what GA is going through GA Republicans make a stupid decision to pass the law based on their feelz because Trump cried election fraud. No they are facing real economic consequences for their decision based on their feelz? MLB alone takes $100,000,000 out of the state.

[Matt_In_NH]

On 4/6/2021 at 12:13 PM, Tiberius said:

My previous answer covered that. Fewer opportunities to vote make it harder to vote. 
 

I hate it that you might not understand. So if you need me to explain it in simpler terms, just ask 

You can only vote one time.  How many opportunities do you need?

[Matt_In_NH]

On 4/6/2021 at 2:43 PM, JaCrispy said:

I support a photo ID for voting...

 

But if people want to use the excuse that not everyone can afford one (which is a legitimate excuse, and not just for minorities) perhaps each state can provide each citizen with a photo ID, free of charge, when they turn 18?  Or perhaps it could be done on a federal level?

I’m normally against raising taxes...but I would support it on this issue...Voter fraud happens every election, and helping to eliminate it, any way possible, is much too important...and it’s something, I’m sure, every law abiding citizen could get behind...

 

Where there is a will, there is a way...👍

I have never heard of someone not being able to afford an ID.   Where there is a will there is a way 

[T&C]

10 minutes ago, mattynh said:

I have never heard of someone not being able to afford an ID.   Where there is a will there is a way 

This is Florida off of their website:

 

The fee for an initial Florida Class E license (including learner’s permit) is $48.00, a commercial driver license (Class A) license is $75.00 and endorsements are $7.00 each. The fee for an ID Card is $25.00. Most local Tax Collector offices also charge a $6.25 service fee.

 

 

[Mike in Horseheads]

33 minutes ago, mattynh said:

You can only vote one time.  How many opportunities do you need?

Not if you believe the Trump party. People were voting absentee, early and on election day against him

[Matt_In_NH]

18 minutes ago, T&C said:

This is Florida off of their website:

 

The fee for an initial Florida Class E license (including learner’s permit) is $48.00, a commercial driver license (Class A) license is $75.00 and endorsements are $7.00 each. The fee for an ID Card is $25.00. Most local Tax Collector offices also charge a $6.25 service fee.

 

 

A few hours of even a minimum wage job covers it.  I could have paid that with my paper route as a 13 year old.  

[Mike in Horseheads]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

Just breathtakingly blind.......

 

 

 

Those sections of the state have elected officials just like everyone else.

 

Did they speak with their constituents you mean.

 

Did you guys cantabile each other over at ALT Right Bills LOL? Great Bonnies season, played worst game of year in that 1st round game. Everybody returns should be a great 21-22 season

 

[B-Man]

 

 

ANALYSIS: TRUE. The Democrats Are Stuck in 1964:

 

Why treat the black electorate like helpless children? It’s clear that when blacks are sufficiently motivated, they have little trouble meeting the same requirements that other groups meet and casting a vote. Democrats continue to claim that Republicans are advocating modern-day poll taxes and literacy tests in disguise, even as evidence to the contrary continues to mount.

 

 

Actually, that’s not quite fair to Democrats. According to the polls, most Democrats—as well as most Republicans, liberals, conservatives, blacks and whites, don’t object to things like requiring people to prove who they say they are before voting. Liberal activists and their friends in the political press like to obsess over such things, but outside that bubble none of this is especially controversial.

 

 

In a saner political environment, Democrats and Republicans would stipulate both that Joe Biden won the presidency legitimately and that the pandemic election exposed significant flaws in our voting system that ought to be addressed in a bipartisan fashion as soon as possible. We have a closely divided House and Senate and a midterm election 19 months off.

 

Yet in lieu of a sober discussion about voting procedures we have a surfeit of political posturing and scare-mongering, along with a president who believes, Trumplike, that his job description includes things like determining the location of Major League Baseball’s All-Star Game.

 

 

Read the whole thing.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-democrats-are-stuck-in-1964-11617747282

 

 

 

 

UPDATE: Guess Who Likes Georgia’s ‘Racist’ Voter Laws…Black Voters, Survey Says.

 

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/platinum/political_tracking_crosstabs/april_2021/crosstabs_georgia_boycott_april_1_and_4_2021

 

Nearly three-quarters of black voters believe voter ID is necessary to ensure a “fair and secure election process,” a Rasmussen Reports survey released Tuesday found.

The survey, taken April 1 and 4 among 1,000 likely U.S. voters, asked respondents, “Are laws requiring voters to show photo identification such as a driver’s license before being allowed to vote necessary to ‘a fair and secure election process’?”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SectionC3]

2 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Again I've explained the problems the GA law was intended to address.  Go find it and read it.   You still won't like it because it came from me.  I could tell you the sky is blue and you'd push back.  So I really won't waste my time.  You're not worth it.  Do your work.

 

Regarding being your advisor?  I have three criteria:

 

1.  I need to like you.

2. You need a lot of money.

3.  They don't ask me if I beat the S&P 

 

Even if someone passes one and two but not three I kick them to the curb.  You, for a fact fail two of the three.  So curb meet SectionC3

 

EDIT:  BTW you have no idea what I've been railing about this how time do you?  Once you figure it out come back and talk to me. 

Tsk, tsk, Chef Jim Crow.  Dropping some Q platitude about doing my work doesn’t change the fact that you still cannot identify a problem the GA law was designed to address.  That lack of detail is exactly why I can’t hire you as my financial adviser. 

[T&C]

18 minutes ago, mattynh said:

A few hours of even a minimum wage job covers it.  I could have paid that with my paper route as a 13 year old.  

Unless you are running a paper route or cutting yards on the side... a legit minimum wage job will more than likely want some sort of ID. 

[SectionC3]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Big problems were caused by China lying, no PPE, Fauci lying, NYC not being closed down quick enough and riots during the summer.

 

Carry on.

 

This is especially hoaxy, even for you.  I didn't realize that China deceived us about the efficacy of Lysol-to-lung COVID treatments.  Sounds like you've had a bit too much hydroxychloroquine today and have become dizzy.  Be careful on the roads if you decide to drive. 

[Orlando Tim]

1 hour ago, T&C said:

This is Florida off of their website:

 

The fee for an initial Florida Class E license (including learner’s permit) is $48.00, a commercial driver license (Class A) license is $75.00 and endorsements are $7.00 each. The fee for an ID Card is $25.00. Most local Tax Collector offices also charge a $6.25 service fee.

 

 

Every fee will be waived for people who are unable to afford it, I have had several students who have applied for it in order to get a job and their parents could not afford it. The paperwork is not even that long, about 2 pages long.

[Matt_In_NH]

34 minutes ago, T&C said:

Unless you are running a paper route or cutting yards on the side... a legit minimum wage job will more than likely want some sort of ID. 

It’s a catch 22....a chicken or egg thing.....there is no way to get a job without an ID.  No way to get an ID without a job.   Sounds like my kids 

[T&C]

8 minutes ago, mattynh said:

It’s a catch 22....a chicken or egg thing.....there is no way to get a job without an ID.  No way to get an ID without a job.   Sounds like my kids 

I don't understand this part... it makes no sense to me but what do I know.

[Chef Jim]

40 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Tsk, tsk, Chef Jim Crow.  Dropping some Q platitude about doing my work doesn’t change the fact that you still cannot identify a problem the GA law was designed to address.  That lack of detail is exactly why I can’t hire you as my financial adviser. 

If you had been following along you’d know that had not been my major bone of contention from the get go.  The issue i have with this whole fiasco is what has actually not been answered by anyone though I have asked several times. So you can go back to sleep now.  I have some stocks to pick. 🙄

[BillStime]

4 hours ago, Doc said:

Stupid decisions based on feelz have consequences...

 

 

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Backintheday544 said:

Isnt that what GA is going through GA Republicans make a stupid decision to pass the law based on their feelz because Trump cried election fraud. No they are facing real economic consequences for their decision based on their feelz? MLB alone takes $100,000,000 out of the state.

 

No I don't think they made a stupid decision because I believe that voter ID should be required.  As I've said repeatedly, I'll defend the right of anyone to vote as long as they are legally allowed to vote.  The stupidity is the (typical over) reaction, and that's on Joe.

 

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

This is especially hoaxy, even for you.  I didn't realize that China deceived us about the efficacy of Lysol-to-lung COVID treatments.  Sounds like you've had a bit too much hydroxychloroquine today and have become dizzy.  Be careful on the roads if you decide to drive. 

 

You don't realize a lot.  The sad thing is you can't blame a drug for that (or maybe you can, I don't know).

 

[T&C]

42 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

No I don't think they made a stupid decision because I believe that voter ID should be required.  As I've said repeatedly, I'll defend the right of anyone to vote as long as they are legally allowed to vote.  The stupidity is the (typical over) reaction, and that's on Joe.

 

 

You don't realize a lot.  The sad thing is you can't blame a drug for that (or maybe you can, I don't know).

 

I'm 60 and I still get carded for beer. The mask mandate must make me look younger... more like 58.

[SectionC3]

7 hours ago, Doc said:

 

No I don't think they made a stupid decision because I believe that voter ID should be required.  As I've said repeatedly, I'll defend the right of anyone to vote as long as they are legally allowed to vote.  The stupidity is the (typical over) reaction, and that's on Joe.

 

 

You don't realize a lot.  The sad thing is you can't blame a drug for that (or maybe you can, I don't know).

 

 

In addition to being lousy at epidemiology, you're also bad at logic.  You will defend the right of anyone to vote as long as they are legally allowed to vote.  Yet you believe that we should erect a barrier to voting through a "voter ID."  So I guess, perhaps, you believe in the right, but you're also fine with making it more difficult to exercise that right.  That's almost as convoluted as insisting that HCQ is an effective treatment for COVID-19. 

 

Along the HCQ line, any chance you'll be on the front lines of the Trump airlift of all of that excess HCQ to Brazil?  It looks like they could use it now.  Maybe you could work it out so that it's parachuted into Sao Paulo and just lies about the streets for everyone to pick up and munch.  Or, maybe you could mash it up and put it in one of those big sprayer planes and just douse the hot zones with HCQ.  Throw in a little Lysol while you're at it.  All the fake treatments in one shot.  Those are just ideas, of course.  I'll leave it to your "expertise" in that field to select the proper course of care. 

8 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

If you had been following along you’d know that had not been my major bone of contention from the get go.  The issue i have with this whole fiasco is what has actually not been answered by anyone though I have asked several times. So you can go back to sleep now.  I have some stocks to pick. 🙄

 

And that's sort of the point, Chef Jim Crow.  You support the erection of barriers to voting to address a problem with voting that doesn't exist.  Seems like you're in the Wacka boat; he readily admits that the only "problem" this law is intended to address is "one party rule."  Personally, rather than trying to disenfranchise people, if I was part of the group that passed this law I might try a moment of introspection and ask myself why my ideas no longer are popular with the majority of the population.  But that's not what the MAGA/Republicans decided to do, and it's not what the Crow Crew here thinks is best.  

[Unforgiven]

10 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

ANALYSIS: TRUE. The Democrats Are Stuck in 1964:

 

Why treat the black electorate like helpless children? It’s clear that when blacks are sufficiently motivated, they have little trouble meeting the same requirements that other groups meet and casting a vote. Democrats continue to claim that Republicans are advocating modern-day poll taxes and literacy tests in disguise, even as evidence to the contrary continues to mount.

 

 

Actually, that’s not quite fair to Democrats. According to the polls, most Democrats—as well as most Republicans, liberals, conservatives, blacks and whites, don’t object to things like requiring people to prove who they say they are before voting. Liberal activists and their friends in the political press like to obsess over such things, but outside that bubble none of this is especially controversial.

 

 

In a saner political environment, Democrats and Republicans would stipulate both that Joe Biden won the presidency legitimately and that the pandemic election exposed significant flaws in our voting system that ought to be addressed in a bipartisan fashion as soon as possible. We have a closely divided House and Senate and a midterm election 19 months off.

 

Yet in lieu of a sober discussion about voting procedures we have a surfeit of political posturing and scare-mongering, along with a president who believes, Trumplike, that his job description includes things like determining the location of Major League Baseball’s All-Star Game.

 

 

Read the whole thing.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-democrats-are-stuck-in-1964-11617747282

 

 

 

 

UPDATE: Guess Who Likes Georgia’s ‘Racist’ Voter Laws…Black Voters, Survey Says.

 

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/platinum/political_tracking_crosstabs/april_2021/crosstabs_georgia_boycott_april_1_and_4_2021

 

Nearly three-quarters of black voters believe voter ID is necessary to ensure a “fair and secure election process,” a Rasmussen Reports survey released Tuesday found.

The survey, taken April 1 and 4 among 1,000 likely U.S. voters, asked respondents, “Are laws requiring voters to show photo identification such as a driver’s license before being allowed to vote necessary to ‘a fair and secure election process’?”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Record players, being incapable of using the internet, and not having to have ID's?

Sounds pretty good to me.

[Unforgiven]

 

[Niagara Bill]

Amazing how Georgia Republicans are acting like slaves to "Masta trump". 

Sorry "Masta" for not being able to cheat for yo'all last election. Won't happen "agin". Yes Sireee,  

Please please please invite me to Mar a lago. 

 

[Tiberius]

56 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:

 

Maybe they can hold the all star game in Atlanta when Abrams’ is governor after next election. 

 

I heard that Atlanta is growing by about a thousand people a week. The harder the Republicans try to shape the voting system, the farther they are falling behind 

[BillStime]

 

[JaCrispy]

3 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

 

[Chef Jim]

3 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

 You support   

 

Ok this is why this place sucks sometimes.  I stopped right there.  My point has never been to support or not support the Bill.  So until you realize what my point has been suggest you STFU.  

[SectionC3]

28 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Ok this is why this place sucks sometimes.  I stopped right there.  My point has never been to support or not support the Bill.  So until you realize what my point has been suggest you STFU.  

 

That's not very nice, Chef Jim Crow.  You seem to be a bit of a grumpy goat these days.  Or, should I say, a cranky crow.