transplantbillsfan Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 It will clearly be defined forever by his last year. Deadliest year in American history 400,000+ Americans dead from a Pandemic he completely botched responding to 6.7% unemployment with 11+ million officially out of work looking for jobs and millions more who just stopped looking and dropped out of the workforce Twice impeached No peaceful transfer of power... instead a violent one with what he incited on January 6th Add in whatever else you think he's going to be remembered for 10, 20, 50 years from now... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 He will be forever known as a one term president. Lost his re-election bid. Lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 He will be known as the one president to start a terrorist organization, be impeached twice, start a war in his own country, attempt to destroy Democacy... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Trump will be known forever as a traitor who attempted to destroy American democracy and set himself up as dictator ... and lost. IOW, the biggest LOSER in US history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 he sucked in his reality shows and sucked just as bad as a wanna be dictator. good riddance to him, I say! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 A wannabe dictator who led a failed coup against the United States. A President who harmed America's standing throughout the world. Worst President ever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Likely the first impeached President to be convicted as well. The Legacy building aint over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 First ex-president to flee the country? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I want to thank Trump for showing me how to deal with Trump supporters. You just say, "Have a good life" and then play YMCA. Also, I can't think of a classier, more Presidential way for Trump to end his his term than walking off to the Village People. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Likely the first impeached President to be convicted as well. The Legacy building aint over! That Bannon pardon may shift some votes. it was a tough call: Bannon knows waaay too much about the early Trump campaign and presidency, and with his back against the wall he might have been tempted to take a deal for cooperation in another investigation. Hence the pardon. But it also makes him look like a guy who really should be barred from ever holding office again, so the impeachment got just a little more juice behind it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: That Bannon pardon may shift some votes. it was a tough call: Bannon knows waaay too much about the early Trump campaign and presidency, and with his back against the wall he might have been tempted to take a deal for cooperation in another investigation. Hence the pardon. But it also makes him look like a guy who really should be barred from ever holding office again, so the impeachment got just a little more juice behind it. The conviction will happen. Not because the Republicans all of a sudden have morals and ethics, but because it is in the Republican party's best interest to convict and ban him from ever running for office again. If they do not convict, Trump will run in 2024 as an Independent. Where do you think his votes will comes from? It would mean a LANDSLIDE Democrat victory no matter who the Dems ran. It would be 70M Dems, 50M Repubs, 15-20M Trump. McConnell and Co. will definitely push to convict. Not because they care about accountability, but for the good of their own party. And I dont mind if they do the right thing for the wrong reasons. America will be better off having banned Donny and not have him in the media anymore, and everyone move on. Disinformation on social media is already down 73% since his twitter was shut down. Bye! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 12 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: It will clearly be defined forever by his last year. Deadliest year in American history Lol what? 12 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: 400,000+ Americans dead from a Pandemic he completely botched responding to Which 1st World Western Civilization country did and why did you say Sweden? 12 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: 6.7% unemployment with 11+ million officially out of work looking for jobs and millions more who just stopped looking and dropped out of the workforce All self inflicted absolutely zero to do with underlying economic conditions 12 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Twice impeached Literally no one cares because the Ds made a circus out of it and only opened the door for anything to be impeachable which is the result of....... 12 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: No peaceful transfer of power... instead a violent one with what he incited on January 6th Trump exposing the enemies within this country as deranged lunatics that control all major media outlets and post 2016 used Silicon Valley to suppress all conservative opposition. Google said post 2016 "never again." 12 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: Add in whatever else you think he's going to be remembered for 10, 20, 50 years from now... That he led a prosperous nation, was the victim of 2 coups, exposed the Deep State as real (props to Bernie Sanders and his supporters for selling out to it), and didn't start any wars or get us involved in any conflicts overseas. No one remotely challenged us. I wonder why. And, in 20 years, it will still be a conservative Supreme Court. Libs think that because they follow events in real time on low info Twitter, it means history has "judged" the event or individual immediately. That's not how this works. Bill Clinton now officially looks like a conservative compared to these people. Bush was a terrible president despite what neo cons told you at the time. And Barrack Obama is still the worst president in the last 100 years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Lol what? Which 1st World Western Civilization country did and why did you say Sweden? All self inflicted absolutely zero to do with underlying economic conditions Literally no one cares because the Ds made a circus out of it and only opened the door for anything to be impeachable which is the result of....... Trump exposing the enemies within this country as deranged lunatics that control all major media outlets and post 2016 used Silicon Valley to suppress all conservative opposition. Google said post 2016 "never again." That he led a prosperous nation, was the victim of 2 coups, exposed the Deep State as real (props to Bernie Sanders and his supporters for selling out to it), and didn't start any wars or get us involved in any conflicts overseas. No one remotely challenged us. I wonder why. And, in 20 years, it will still be a conservative Supreme Court. Libs think that because they follow events in real time on low info Twitter, it means history has "judged" the event or individual immediately. That's not how this works. Bill Clinton now officially looks like a conservative compared to these people. Bush was a terrible president despite what neo cons told you at the time. And Barrack Obama is still the worst president in the last 100 years. Have a good life! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 The stock market finished at a record high today. I won't be rooting for it to crash. I won't be rooting for high unemployment. I won't be rooting for lockdowns and covid deaths and cases! I'm glad the other half of the country will join us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: The stock market finished at a record high today. I won't be rooting for it to crash. I won't be rooting for high unemployment. I won't be rooting for lockdowns and covid deaths and cases! I'm glad the other half of the country will join us. You spent 4 years rooting for it and all the sudden you stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Bob in Mich said: First ex-president to flee the country? This is my guess! Moscow 32 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: The conviction will happen. Not because the Republicans all of a sudden have morals and ethics, but because it is in the Republican party's best interest to convict and ban him from ever running for office again. If they do not convict, Trump will run in 2024 as an Independent. Where do you think his votes will comes from? It would mean a LANDSLIDE Democrat victory no matter who the Dems ran. It would be 70M Dems, 50M Repubs, 15-20M Trump. McConnell and Co. will definitely push to convict. Not because they care about accountability, but for the good of their own party. And I dont mind if they do the right thing for the wrong reasons. America will be better off having banned Donny and not have him in the media anymore, and everyone move on. Disinformation on social media is already down 73% since his twitter was shut down. Bye! This does make sense, to a point, but I suppose any GOP senator that votes to convict will have a hard reelection fight, a primary challenge and a whole bunch of right wing hate coming their way, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 13 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: It will clearly be defined forever by his last year. Deadliest year in American history 400,000+ Americans dead from a Pandemic he completely botched responding to 6.7% unemployment with 11+ million officially out of work looking for jobs and millions more who just stopped looking and dropped out of the workforce Twice impeached No peaceful transfer of power... instead a violent one with what he incited on January 6th Add in whatever else you think he's going to be remembered for 10, 20, 50 years from now... Great question. I think the ultimate gift of the Trump presidency is clarity. Oh, and a reimagined judiciary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: The stock market finished at a record high today. I won't be rooting for it to crash. I won't be rooting for high unemployment. I won't be rooting for lockdowns and covid deaths and cases! I'm glad the other half of the country will join us. How many would you estimate died because of his lack of leadership on Covid? Or do you not believe the virus killed people? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: This does make sense, to a point, but I suppose any GOP senator that votes to convict will have a hard reelection fight, a primary challenge and a whole bunch of right wing hate coming their way, though Ehh, maybe, but they can get around it. They will look to make Trump the scapegoat for everything, completely throw him under the bus. And in 2 years, with the country out of the pandemic and a return to normalcy, folks will already forget about Trump. Even his most ardent supporters. Just like how it was almost impossible to find someone who voted for W. They'll all abandon him and move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: The conviction will happen. Not because the Republicans all of a sudden have morals and ethics, but because it is in the Republican party's best interest to convict and ban him from ever running for office again. If they do not convict, Trump will run in 2024 as an Independent. Where do you think his votes will comes from? It would mean a LANDSLIDE Democrat victory no matter who the Dems ran. It would be 70M Dems, 50M Repubs, 15-20M Trump. McConnell and Co. will definitely push to convict. Not because they care about accountability, but for the good of their own party. And I dont mind if they do the right thing for the wrong reasons. America will be better off having banned Donny and not have him in the media anymore, and everyone move on. Disinformation on social media is already down 73% since his twitter was shut down. Bye! I think -- I hope -- you're right. Self interest usually prevails with our elected reps. Mitch McConnell is the ultimate Machiavellian operative and I suspect he's working behind the scenes to get those 17 Republican votes. And I'm good with that. We need a functional, non-insane Republican Party as a counterweight to the Dem's worst policy impulses. Biden strikes me as a guy with a good sense of where the middle of America stands. I hope he has enough left in him to keep the party and America operating within the proverbial 40 yard lines. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Ehh, maybe, but they can get around it. They will look to make Trump the scapegoat for everything, completely throw him under the bus. And in 2 years, with the country out of the pandemic and a return to normalcy, folks will already forget about Trump. Even his most ardent supporters. Just like how it was almost impossible to find someone who voted for W. They'll all abandon him and move on. I hope you are right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 13 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: It will clearly be defined forever by his last year. Deadliest year in American history 400,000+ Americans dead from a Pandemic he completely botched responding to 6.7% unemployment with 11+ million officially out of work looking for jobs and millions more who just stopped looking and dropped out of the workforce Twice impeached No peaceful transfer of power... instead a violent one with what he incited on January 6th Add in whatever else you think he's going to be remembered for 10, 20, 50 years from now... I was thinking of such a long list, was picturing Chevy Chase's Christmas vacation rant about his boss but think I will just go with: 1. Worst President ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 9 hours ago, Tiberius said: He will be forever known as a one term president. Lost his re-election bid. Lost You mean a LOSER? 🤪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: You mean a LOSER? 🤪 Big fat LOSER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, WideNine said: I was thinking of such a long list, was picturing Chevy Chase's Christmas vacation rant about his boss but think I will just go with: 1. Worst President ever. It was nice of Trump to make that not much of a debate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Frankish Reich Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I love it. And don't think for a minute that this isn't part of the reason he didn't go back to the Trump Tower. Same for his kids (by the way, where's Barron?). There are indictments coming, maybe even here but under seal in the State of NY. I really wouldn't put it past him to go hang out in one of his properties in the Middle East or somewhere else with no extradition treaty. Russia anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: How many would you estimate died because of his lack of leadership on Covid? Well let's see. The models said 2 million. Soooooo......he saved 1.6 million lives and cut the red tape to allow you to get your game changing Emergency Authorization Use vaccine we all will be compelled to get. Because.....pharma. Quote Or do you not believe the virus killed people? I don't "believe" anything. I know it's killed people and destroyed lives. 400K dead. So they say. 330,310,000 lives being wasted Including the destruction of 50 million school kids. Going on year 2 of not being able to see them play an indoor sport. Edited January 20, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 14 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: It will clearly be defined forever by his last year. Deadliest year in American history 400,000+ Americans dead from a Pandemic he completely botched responding to 6.7% unemployment with 11+ million officially out of work looking for jobs and millions more who just stopped looking and dropped out of the workforce Twice impeached No peaceful transfer of power... instead a violent one with what he incited on January 6th Add in whatever else you think he's going to be remembered for 10, 20, 50 years from now... Biden has already killed over 100 from corona virus since he took over. Killer! 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 24 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Well let's see. The models said 2 million. Soooooo......he saved 1.6 million lives and cut the red tape to allow you to get your game changing Emergency Authorization Use vaccine we all will be compelled to get. Because.....pharma. I don't "believe" anything. I know it's killed people and destroyed lives. 400K dead. So they say. 330,310,000 lives being wasted Including the destruction of 50 million school kids. Going on year 2 of not being able to see them play an indoor sport. No seriously, had Trump pushed for more people to take simple precautions, fewer people would of died. His lack of leadership was killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: It was nice of Trump to make that not much of a debate. The ghosts of James Buchanan, Warren Harding, and Richard Nixon all say "thank you, Donnie!" Edited January 20, 2021 by SoTier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 57 minutes ago, Big Gun said: Biden has already killed over 100 from corona virus since he took over. Killer! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 47 minutes ago, Tiberius said: No seriously, had Trump pushed for more people to take simple precautions, fewer people would of died. His lack of leadership was killer Source? Because I see equivalent alleged death totals from state to state (although the deep lockdown states have more so thats odd) and from country to country. But yea masks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 59 minutes ago, Big Gun said: Biden has already killed over 100 from corona virus since he took over. Killer! Sorry, you are not smart enough to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 He will known as the Herbert Hoover of the pandemic along with a man who was such a sore loser he nearly overthrew the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Missing his biggest accomplishment.... he helped turn Two Bills Drive PPP board liberal! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Big Blitz said: And Barrack Obama is still the worst president in the last 100 years. I was going to respond to more points you made. But this one here makes you moron of the year. 7 hours ago, Big Blitz said: The stock market finished at a record high today. Yep. It knows the Trump Presidency is finally coming to an end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Great question. I think the ultimate gift of the Trump presidency is clarity. Oh, and a reimagined judiciary. Clarity, huh? For whom? On what? As for the judiciary... what's interesting is I think that even if the Democrats don't do something wild like eliminate the filibuster and pack the courts, any Trump appointee at any level is now going to understand that they were appointed by an insurrectionist who might become the first ever convicted President in an impeachment trial. You conservatives don't like Roberts so much already. We've already seen Gorsuch and Kavenaugh break ranks and vote for more "liberal" causes. I want Biden and the Democrats to do everything in their power to pack the courts at all levels at this point, honestly. But even if they don't, Trump screwed his judicial appointees over with almost all future decisions in terms of objectivity. 7 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Great question. I think the ultimate gift of the Trump presidency is clarity. Oh, and a reimagined judiciary. And I find it odd that you respond to this one rather than the other much more elaborate post directly to you the other day. I saw you responded to me, but when I clicked on it, it showed nothing. Perhaps a second thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, TBBills said: Sorry, you are not smart enough to be here. Go silence your self f**k stain! Edited January 21, 2021 by Big Gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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