NewEra Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: Hard to see McKenzie on this team next year. Is he decent? Yes Is he replaceable at a lower salary? Definitely yes Dude makes 960k a year. Can’t get too much lower than that. 3
SCBills Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think the move is sign him to a market rate deal but with minimal guarantee and then if a guy falls to you who you think can upgrade in the draft you pick him. If we are going to be a 4 wides team at the frequency we have been this year this FO better be ready to pick a receiver somewhere in the first 4 rounds every single draft. The Pittsburgh model. Never stop stocking the position. This. We run 4 wide a ton, but only really have 4 WR’s on the typical active roster. Roberts is valuable, but I don’t want to see him out there running routes, and McKenzie is more of a gadget player. The #5 WR should be a speed guy who can eventually take over Brown’s role (imo). I’d go as far as saying we should draft this guy in Round 1 or 2.
Malazan Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 Just now, Jauronimo said: Hodgins does not fit McKenzie's role at all. Hodgins is basically a slower Gabe Davis. He's tall, not very fast, good routes, good hands and can get up to high point the ball. You will never see Hodgins running a jet sweep or screen. I think Hodgins certainly has the potential of being the 5th receiver. You said a bunch of other stuff that I did not say anything about.
ColoradoBills Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think the move is sign him to a market rate deal but with minimal guarantee and then if a guy falls to you who you think can upgrade in the draft you pick him. If we are going to be a 4 wides team at the frequency we have been this year this FO better be ready to pick a receiver somewhere in the first 4 rounds every single draft. The Pittsburgh model. Never stop stocking the position. While I see your point on this they may pass on the next draft depending on if they re-sign McKenzie and Roberts. I'm also curious as to what OBD feels about extending Brown another season or two.
Process Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 Surely we can find someone in rounds 4-7 capable of running jet sweeps. If we sign him for cheap great if not then no big deal.
DrDawkinstein Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 49 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think he plays a good role in our offense. He's great on Jet sweeps and his hands are pretty reliable. Good after the catch too. I think he's a very solid #5. Good question. Absolutely if we can keep him near/under $1M
JHUFF Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 McKenzie is a good weapon. He would be great in the slot, super quick and fast! Definitely needs to be on this team. I would not change a thing at WR position. Jon Brown is one of the most underrated WR in the NFL. Gab Davis shows lots of promise, and will continue to develop into a good WR. Diggs has been fantastic! Beasley great in the slot. Don't change a thing!
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 He's not fast. We need to upgrade the "small, fast, shifty" WR position.
ToBillsFan Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 I compare him to a Taysom Hill in a very specialized role but it’s one of those guys you think you would be fine without but would be a big loss if they left. In fact I think he could be used even more, maybe even a replacement for Andre Roberts as he is getting up there in age.
Don Otreply Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 Sure, he’s cheap, and other teams don’t really cover him tightly when he plays receiver, ya can get a touchdown because of that 😁👍 Go Bills!!!
NickelCity Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: He's not fast. We need to upgrade the "small, fast, shifty" WR position. 4D chess?
TN Bills Fan Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 That depends on what Isaiah Hodgins brings to the table.
Victory Formation Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 I think you offer him a vet minimum contract with no guarantees and you draft a guy..
MJS Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 Sure. But I imagine there are lots guys who could fill that role. He's only 25 so he has a lot of years left to play.
whatdrought Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 Resign him, but look to replace him. Ideally you want his and Roberts role to be one and the same. Unfortunately we don’t have that right now.
billybrew1 Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, SCBills said: I like him, but think we should draft a speed WR early. If we do, that likely means he takes McKenzie’s role. It’s quite obvious how important speed opposite Diggs is in this offense with Allen’s arm. If Brown misses any time, as we’ve seen, we don’t really have anyone to play that role. We definitely need speed and we definitely need to keep adding it. I like McKenzie a lot at #5, he's a Buffalo Bill. We have to love ok at getting younger there and keeping costs down but if we can sign him for vet min. I think half of his contract will no longer count against the cap (or, is he too young still?) and under those circumstances he would be a great signing..... But make no mistake, the Bills have to keep their passing game getting better and better.....that means speed and WRs.... To sum up: I think we'll have a lot of wholes along the roster and we would maybe be better off filling those other ones and keeping McKenzie... Just remember that JB's injury is one of the reasons JA minislumped....
Mark Vader Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Hodgins does not fit McKenzie's role at all. Hodgins is basically a slower Gabe Davis. He's tall, not very fast, good routes, good hands and can get up to high point the ball. You will never see Hodgins running a jet sweep or screen. True, but the Bills drafted Hodgins and they will give him a chance to play, and there are only so many roster spots.
VirginiaMike Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 I would not have in the beginning of the season, but he has filled an important role in the offense. Here's thought - Roberts has been a key special teams guy and I'm not against him, but if we could get McKenzie to perform that role, we could save a position. I'm not sure why we haven't seen him give that a try.
Saxum Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 40 minutes ago, VirginiaMike said: I would not have in the beginning of the season, but he has filled an important role in the offense. Here's thought - Roberts has been a key special teams guy and I'm not against him, but if we could get McKenzie to perform that role, we could save a position. I'm not sure why we haven't seen him give that a try. McKenzie has had fumble issues in past and it partly why Denver released him. He had 6 muffed punts for Denver. Had some for Bills as well; I think they were in preseason games.
Royale with Cheese Posted November 11, 2020 Author Posted November 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: He's not fast. We need to upgrade the "small, fast, shifty" WR position. I'm not sure if he's fast or not lol.
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