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1 hour ago, High Football IQ said:

 

All I'm saying is that the the available data right now points to the Dolphins being the better team (at present) despite the respective win/loss records and division standings.

 

This is just an amazingly not high football iq sentence.

 

The Bills are 6-2 and have a head to head win against the 4-3 Dolphins.

 

Win/Loss record and division standings are literally the only data that matters.

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That must have been written by some guy with a high football IQ!

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/week-8-takeaways-give-it-up-for-the-dolphins-the-best-team-in-the-afc-east-183728407.html   Week 8 takeaways: The Dolphins are the best team in the AFC East

How is it we have one win in our last 4 weeks, yet we are 6-2?

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57 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

It's actually an in depth explanation of something you should be able to do in your head since like the 4th grade. Just saying. Why I am even having to explain this is beyond me.

 

Oh I understand the math aspect......still 4-0 in the division versus 1-3?????  I'll concede you the 1.5 games based on the 4th grade math - feel pretty superior now don'tcha?

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2 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

This is just an amazingly not high football iq sentence.

 

The Bills are 6-2 and have a head to head win against the 4-3 Dolphins.

 

Win/Loss record and division standings are literally the only data that matters.

 

Yes it does at present, but again it may be a different story at the end of the season based on the final W/L projections I have for each team respectively based on remaining schedules which is probably 8/9 max for the Bills and 10/11 max for the Dolphins.

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I'm going to throw out all of these insane predictions with the caveat that I could be completely wrong.

 

Would love to see all of those W/L projections, IQ. Oh there we go. Hmm yes, 11 wins for the Fins and 8 for the Bills, seems likely.

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8 minutes ago, High Football IQ said:

 

Yes it does at present, but again it may be a different story at the end of the season based on the final W/L projections I have for each team respectively based on remaining schedules which is probably 8/9 max for the Bills and 10/11 max for the Dolphins.

 

Can we get a breakdown of these 11 Dolphins wins?

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10 minutes ago, High Football IQ said:

 

Yes it does at present, but again it may be a different story at the end of the season based on the final W/L projections I have for each team respectively based on remaining schedules which is probably 8/9 max for the Bills and 10/11 max for the Dolphins.

 

Please put your projections on paper for us...

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Nelius said:

 

Can we get a breakdown of these 11 Dolphins wins?

 

Sure this is what I see happening as of today based on how they are playing and how ridiculously easy the rest of the schedule is on paper:

 

@ AZ - Win (given current momentum and catching AZ off bye week but could lose)

SD - Win

@ Den - Win

@ NYJ - Win

CIN - Win

KC - Loss (but they will give them a fight and have the defense to stop Mahomes and have a chance to possibly win late)

NE - Win

@ Oak - Loss (more of a toss up though really but can't see the Dolphins necessarily getting to 12-4)

@ Buf - Win

 

Final record 11-5, 1st place in AFC East

 

The stretch of four straight games between SD  and CIN is where I believe they seize control of the division for good and build at least a 2 game lead over the Bills especially if they also win in AZ this week as I project and the Bills hit the skids against a very tough stretch which I also project.

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11 minutes ago, Nelius said:

 

Can we get a breakdown of these 11 Dolphins wins?

Here is how I would get them there. 4 wins plus these 7 more. I dont think it is going to happen, but it does look doable. Though I think they end up with 8 or 9. 

 

Wins

 

Broncos (3-4)

Chargers (2-5)

Jets (0-8)

Bengals (2-5-1)

Patriots (2-5)

 

This gets them to 9. They just need two more in the 4 below. This weeks AZ game is significant. They win that and we may have some trouble. 

 

Chiefs (7-1)

Cardinals (5-2)

Raiders (4-3)

Us (6-2)

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1 hour ago, matter2003 said:

How many teams have played "great" on both sides of the ball for 4 quarters this year?  I am not sure even the Steelers would claim that. Their offense has struggled at times quite a bit. Have the Seahawks?  Their defense is among the worst in the NFL.

 

Quite a few teams have been able to put together full games on both sides of the ball.

Since we are arguing about Miami, I would say they accomplished this against the Jags, 49ers and Jets this year.

 

Regardless, I guess we can just agree to disagree.  

 

A lot of Bills fans seem to think the very idea Miami could eventually take the AFC East is ridiculous.  They seem to think Sunday's win pretty much buried the Pats and wrapped up the division.  I think that discounting the Dolphins (even with a rookie QB) could end up being a huge mistake.  Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

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23 minutes ago, High Football IQ said:

 

Sure this is what I see happening as of today based on how they are playing and how ridiculously easy the rest of the schedule is on paper:

 

@ AZ - Win (given current momentum and catching AZ off bye week but could lose)

SD - Win

@ Den - Win

@ NYJ - Win

CIN - Win

KC - Loss (but they will give them a fight and have the defense to stop Mahomes and have a chance to possibly win late)

NE - Win

@ Oak - Loss (more of a toss up though really but can't see the Dolphins necessarily getting to 12-4)

@ Buf - Win

 

Final record 11-5, 1st place in AFC East

 

The stretch of four straight games between SD  and CIN is where I believe they seize control of the division for good and build at least a 2 game lead over the Bills especially if they also win in AZ this week as I project and the Bills hit the skids against a very tough stretch which I also project.

 

Well I certainly appreciate you putting it down to reference later.

 

and also for outing yourself as a Dolphin's fan 0:)

 

Just two follow up questions, if you are so concerned about how teams are winning re: Bills, how can you look at Tua's performance and think that offense is going to produce enough to win these games?  Or should the Dolphins expect a defensive and special teams td each week?  If you care so much about performance, I would think you would look at that Dolphin's game and say yikes they were far outplayed but got some timely turnovers that produced points.

 

6-0 > 4-3

4-0 > 1-3

1-0 > 0-1

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35 minutes ago, High Football IQ said:

 

Sure this is what I see happening as of today based on how they are playing and how ridiculously easy the rest of the schedule is on paper:

 

@ AZ - Win (given current momentum and catching AZ off bye week but could lose)

SD - Win

@ Den - Win

@ NYJ - Win

CIN - Win

KC - Loss (but they will give them a fight and have the defense to stop Mahomes and have a chance to possibly win late)

NE - Win

@ Oak - Loss (more of a toss up though really but can't see the Dolphins necessarily getting to 12-4)

@ Buf - Win

 

Final record 11-5, 1st place in AFC East

 

The stretch of four straight games between SD  and CIN is where I believe they seize control of the division for good and build at least a 2 game lead over the Bills especially if they also win in AZ this week as I project and the Bills hit the skids against a very tough stretch which I also project.

 

The problem is this doesn't work in the NFL. It's a week to week league. You assume the Dolphins will just continue to play this well the rest of the year. Why? 

 

You assume the Bills will continue to play the way they have the last 4 games the rest of the year. Why?

 

Buffalo is a far more talented team than Miami is currently. In the end talent usually wins.

 

I find it far more likely the Bills play closer to their talent level than the Dolphins continue to overachieve over the next 8 games. The Bills have tons of room to get better and improve, the Dolphins don't.

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58 minutes ago, High Football IQ said:

 

Sure this is what I see happening as of today based on how they are playing and how ridiculously easy the rest of the schedule is on paper:

 

@ AZ - Win (given current momentum and catching AZ off bye week but could lose)

SD - Win

@ Den - Win

@ NYJ - Win

CIN - Win

KC - Loss (but they will give them a fight and have the defense to stop Mahomes and have a chance to possibly win late)

NE - Win

@ Oak - Loss (more of a toss up though really but can't see the Dolphins necessarily getting to 12-4)

@ Buf - Win

 

Final record 11-5, 1st place in AFC East

 

The stretch of four straight games between SD  and CIN is where I believe they seize control of the division for good and build at least a 2 game lead over the Bills especially if they also win in AZ this week as I project and the Bills hit the skids against a very tough stretch which I also project.

 

My guess

at AZ - loss

LAC - win but could be a loss. Herbert playing very well

at Den - win

at NYJ - win

CIN - loss.

KC - loss

NE - win

at Oak - loss but could be a win. I have this as a toss up

at Buff - loss

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41 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

 

Quite a few teams have been able to put together full games on both sides of the ball.

Since we are arguing about Miami, I would say they accomplished this against the Jags, 49ers and Jets this year.

 

Regardless, I guess we can just agree to disagree.  

 

A lot of Bills fans seem to think the very idea Miami could eventually take the AFC East is ridiculous.  They seem to think Sunday's win pretty much buried the Pats and wrapped up the division.  I think that discounting the Dolphins (even with a rookie QB) could end up being a huge mistake.  Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

 

I don't think it is ridiculous,  just think they are riding a high right now and will inevitably come down from it at some point because their talent doesn't justify it. 

I would much rather be the Bills playing worse than their talent dictates than the Dolphins playing over their heads.  Eventually talent wins out at the end of the season most times.

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1 hour ago, High Football IQ said:

 

Yes it does at present, but again it may be a different story at the end of the season based on the final W/L projections I have for each team respectively based on remaining schedules which is probably 8/9 max for the Bills and 10/11 max for the Dolphins.

Your username, is the biggest hyperbole I've ever seen

 

I've never seen such terrible takes, from someone who claims to have a high football IQ

 

I'm actually convinced it's your schtick

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1 hour ago, High Football IQ said:

 

Yes it does at present, but again it may be a different story at the end of the season based on the final W/L projections I have for each team respectively based on remaining schedules which is probably 8/9 max for the Bills and 10/11 max for the Dolphins.

 

Again...you make assumptions that are silly to make to get to them. Basing the outcomes of games in a week to week league with how a team is currently playing is ridiculous. Especially when you have no idea how injuries will be factoring into those matchups.

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12 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Your username, is the biggest hyperbole I've ever seen

 

I've never seen such terrible takes, from someone who claims to have a high football IQ

 

I'm actually convinced it's your schtick

 

 

I was convinced  weeks ago.

 

The collective IQ drops with every reply to them.   :lol: 

 

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