The McDermott Era...Will the first signature win(s) come the next 3 weeks?

[PromoTheRobot]

Identifying a signature win.

 

Edited October 27, 2020 by PromoTheRobot

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

Identifying a signature win.

 

 

Exactly

4 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

 

”Signature Ws” are, at the highest level, did you beat the SB Champ of that year- something I highly doubt the Bills have done in a generation. But, something BOTH the Raiders and Cardinals May have accomplished already- in 2020!

 

Next? Did the Bills beat ANY Championship finalist of the same year? NO... again!

 

But see, here is where that moving goalpost perception comes in.

 

The Titans played in the AFC championship game last year.  We beat them last year.  But that's not a signature win for "reasons"

 

4 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

MY bar is the next in line. Did you beat any Playoff teams of the same year?

 

See above.  The bar seems to move, that's my problem with it.

 

 

[Billsatlastin2018]

7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Exactly

 

But see, here is where that moving goalpost perception comes in.

 

The Titans played in the AFC championship game last year.  We beat them last year.  But that's not a signature win for "reasons"

 

 

See above.  The bar seems to move, that's my problem with it.

 

 

Not really. The Bills win over the Titans counts in my scheme.

But, signature? NO... lesser, because they were led by an inferior QB in October... not the guy who has continued strongly and in 2020.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

24 minutes ago, teef said:

for me right now, the only glaring hole is a playoff win.  we'll see if it comes this year.

Cake Walk 

[teef]

17 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

No. This is an excellent thread. And various people have defined their line in the sand for that purpose. Some, like me, set the bar high, demanding excellence. Others, like to go low... simply accepting low mediocrity bar after a generation of horrific play- like beating a winning team or even...”we’re not the JESTS or previously... the Clowns!”

 

NOOOOO! You never use the worst teams in the league in a given year, as a point of comparison, that you are better! NEVER... EVER!
 

Nor, is it,when you beat Scrooge McDuck,the 3rd. String QB of the Steelers. Beat KC with Paddy Mahomes, Beat Ben. Beat Brady! 🙄

 

”Signature Ws” are, at the highest level, did you beat the SB Champ of that year- something I highly doubt the Bills have done in a generation. But, something BOTH the Raiders and Cardinals May have accomplished already- in 2020!

 

Next? Did the Bills beat ANY Championship finalist of the same year? NO... again!

 

MY bar is the next in line. Did you beat any Playoff teams of the same year? PLUS, have you done this at an approx. 50% winning rate? The answer to that question, both pre and post McD is NO! And worse under McDermott!
 

They will certainly have opportunities against Seattle, Arizona, the 9ers and Pitt coming up. 

no.  the bolded doesn't happen.  it a few users that use this comment to consistently complain.  we get it...you just demand excellence!

2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

Cake Walk 

mega cakewalk.

[gordong]

is NE really a signature win... I mean they are currently 2-4.    just don't see it being a game we should win. 

 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

1 hour ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Ummm, EXCUSE me my friend, HUDS?!  As THE person who invented "glass half full"(*), I resent the assumption that me, and others of my ilk...ilklings if I may be so bold, would ever skip down the primrose path only to fall off the cliff that is indulgent enthusiasm just to label a game a "signature win".  

 

By the way, and unfortunately, recent times have caused me to remoniker myself "glass 3/8ths filled" guy, but that is another story. 

 

I believe it was either the Supreme Court of the United States or Fonzi on the Pinky Tuskadero episode of Happy Days that said, "I don't know what a signature win is, but I know it when I see it."

 

With those bold and graceful words I am confident in stating that I am still looking for a signature win, albeit prideful as a Bills fan rumeraging amongst the very good wins they have had.  

 

...but...beat Seattle, and regardless of anything else if they do it while Wilson is at the helm...well, I'll call that a signature win right now.

 

(* I absolutely didn't invent glass half full, but for the  purposes of this text it makes me look important...like people should be reading what I am writing.  Not true at all, though.  I am mostly certainly a JAF (Just Another Fan).  Hopefully, no one will read this footnote.)

Just to clarify Donuts, I lump myself in with the glass half full as well as 3/8ths filled groups—I firmly believe Pittsburgh was a signature win last year, for the reasons stated in my original post. For those harping on the Duck, a good team takes what’s given and drives the point home, which the Bills did emphatically. Did anyone else pick him off 4 x in one game? Just asking, haven’t bothered to look that up myself. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

11 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Just to clarify Donuts, I lump myself in with the glass half full as well as 3/8ths filled groups—I firmly believe Pittsburgh was a signature win last year, for the reasons stated in my original post. For those harping on the Duck, a good team takes what’s given and drives the point home, which the Bills did emphatically. Did anyone else pick him off 4 x in one game? Just asking, haven’t bothered to look that up myself. 

 

 

@machine gun kelly

 

You are duly admitted, Sir.  MGK will show the hand shake.

 

...you do still need to carry a live chicken around for a week, but that is the fun part of the initiation.  

 

 

EDIT:

 

Please know that it was really just to start a bit.

 

However, when I was done I actually really liked the "I don't know what I signature win is..." comment.

 

I am old enough to know that the Bills had some good wins in 1980...but man, when they beat the Steelers...when they wrecked the Steelers who I believe were 7-4 at the time (we were 8-3) that was something.  You KNEW it was something.  

Edited October 27, 2020 by dollars 2 donuts

[NoHuddleKelly12]

6 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

@machine gun kelly

 

You are duly admitted, Sir.  MGK will show the hand shake.

 

...you do still need to carry a live chicken around for a week, but that is the fun part of the initiation.  

 

 

EDIT:

 

Please know that it was really just to start a bit.

 

However, when I was done I actually really liked the "I don't know what I signature win comment is..."

 

I am old enough to know that the Bills had some good wins in 1980...but man, when they beat the Steelers...when they wrecked the Steelers who I believe were 7-4 at the time (we were 8-3) that was something.  You KNEW it was something.  

X1000 ^^^

[Billsfan1972]

17 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Just to clarify Donuts, I lump myself in with the glass half full as well as 3/8ths filled groups—I firmly believe Pittsburgh was a signature win last year, for the reasons stated in my original post. For those harping on the Duck, a good team takes what’s given and drives the point home, which the Bills did emphatically. Did anyone else pick him off 4 x in one game? Just asking, haven’t bothered to look that up myself. 

Duck was a disaster......  The Bills basically turtled that game and refused to do anything on offense.  They had 269 yards in offense.  They were too scared to do anything.  

 

Look at the Play by Play and you'll see how sad the Bills were on Offense.

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=401128065

 

The play at the end of the half and after they took the lead in the 4th they got the ball twice and ran 6 plays (all runs), thus handing the ball back to Pitt.  

 

BTW Duck is now on the Steelers practise squad and their 4th QB....  Wow what a statement win that was.

[machine gun kelly]

1 hour ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

@machine gun kelly

 

You are duly admitted, Sir.  MGK will show the hand shake.

 

...you do still need to carry a live chicken around for a week, but that is the fun part of the initiation.  

 

 

EDIT:

 

Please know that it was really just to start a bit.

 

However, when I was done I actually really liked the "I don't know what I signature win is..." comment.

 

I am old enough to know that the Bills had some good wins in 1980...but man, when they beat the Steelers...when they wrecked the Steelers who I believe were 7-4 at the time (we were 8-3) that was something.  You KNEW it was something.  

Old fart and for the record, it’s using you’re middle finger backwards while the other one covers it on both sides, not that came from a fraternity y I know and am sworn to secrecy.  No huddle, donuts and 72, shh.  You know the shake you must die.

 

Have fun guys.  This became fun after I went to work.  God bless, and how about we just agree, kick the ver licking crap (I think that’s ok with Hap and Chandler) out of the cheats.  Then as I said to you Hap, how about a repeat in some weeks.  6-0 sounds good in the division.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

1 hour ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

No. This is an excellent thread. And various people have defined their line in the sand for that purpose. Some, like me, set the bar high, demanding excellence. Others, like to go low... simply accepting low mediocrity bar after a generation of horrific play- like beating a winning team or even...”we’re not the JESTS or previously... the Clowns!”

 

NOOOOO! You never use the worst teams in the league in a given year, as a point of comparison, that you are better! NEVER... EVER!
 

Nor, is it,when you beat Scrooge McDuck,the 3rd. String QB of the Steelers. Beat KC with Paddy Mahomes, Beat Ben. Beat Brady! 🙄

 

”Signature Ws” are, at the highest level, did you beat the SB Champ of that year- something I highly doubt the Bills have done in a generation. But, something BOTH the Raiders and Cardinals May have accomplished already- in 2020!

 

Next? Did the Bills beat ANY Championship finalist of the same year? NO... again!

 

MY bar is the next in line. Did you beat any Playoff teams of the same year? PLUS, have you done this at an approx. 50% winning rate? The answer to that question, both pre and post McD is NO! And worse under McDermott!
 

They will certainly have opportunities against Seattle, Arizona, the 9ers and Pitt coming up. 

 

Technically the Bills beat the 14-2 Superbowl winning Patriots* in 2016.

 

Jacoby Brisket was the starter with Tom Brady suspended....

 

We also beat the 12-4 Superbowl winning Patriots* in 2014.

 

In week 17 when they were resting starters....

 

I believe someone pointed this out, but we beat the Titans last year and they made the championship game. Although, that was a game that Marcus Mariota started and they missed 4 FGs....

[dollars 2 donuts]

13 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Old fart and for the record, it’s using you’re middle finger backwards while the other one covers it on both sides, not that came from a fraternity y I know and am sworn to secrecy.  No huddle, donuts and 72, shh.  You know the shake you must die.

 

Have fun guys.  This became fun after I went to work.  God bless, and how about we just agree, kick the ver licking crap (I think that’s ok with Hap and Chandler) out of the cheats.  Then as I said to you Hap, how about a repeat in some weeks.  6-0 sounds good in the division.

 

 

Machine G. Kelly, please come over when you have the chance and fix my VCR as it is continually blinking "12:00".

 

 

....It's for TAPES!   You'd take the cassette...put in...it would grab it and then you would hit "play" and you could watch movies that you rented from a video store, like E.T. and Evil Dead 2.

 

...a video store was a brick and mortar structure that...oh forget it.  

 

[Billsatlastin2018]

22 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

Technically the Bills beat the 14-2 Superbowl winning Patriots* in 2016.

 

Jacoby Brisket was the starter with Tom Brady suspended....

 

We also beat the 12-4 Superbowl winning Patriots* in 2014.

 

In week 17 when they were resting starters....

 

I believe someone pointed this out, but we beat the Titans last year and they made the championship game. Although, that was a game that Marcus Mariota started and they missed 4 FGs....

Missing 4FGs? Hey, that’s on them! But never seen again Mariota + Jacoby WHO + the Boston College Starters? 
 

Interesting. Count in my overall Stats, but clearly zippo a defining moment!

 

BEAT the Hawks this year with Russell or the Squeelers with Big Ben? Then, a gigantic, moving forward check mark gets put up!

[Shaw66]

25 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

Technically the Bills beat the 14-2 Superbowl winning Patriots* in 2016.

 

Jacoby Brisket was the starter with Tom Brady suspended....

 

We also beat the 12-4 Superbowl winning Patriots* in 2014.

 

In week 17 when they were resting starters....

 

I believe someone pointed this out, but we beat the Titans last year and they made the championship game. Although, that was a game that Marcus Mariota started and they missed 4 FGs....

A signature win isn't just against a good opponent.  It's a win that signifies that you've arrived, that you are one of the elite.  It's a win over a team that already is there at the top.   It's a win that says you've joined the club.  

[Negan]

I don't think 3 wins in a row will happen here maybe 1 against the Pats would be nice.  But I think McDermott will certainly be outcoached on Sunday 

[Billsatlastin2018]

2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

A signature win isn't just against a good opponent.  It's a win that signifies that you've arrived, that you are one of the elite.  It's a win over a team that already is there at the top.   It's a win that says you've joined the club.  

Of course, it is!

 

Not the gold of fools, the Silver of a performance against a Lombardi Winner! So many here, settle for crumbs after the generational Tire Fire, akin to an NFL Stockholm Syndrome Kidnapping. ( See Patriots Bills).

 

Have some respect! Desire excellence.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

4 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

Missing 4FGs? Hey, that’s on them! But never seen again Mariota + Jacoby WHO + the Boston College Starters? 
 

Interesting. Count in my overall Stats, but clearly zippo a defining moment!

 

BEAT the Hawks this year with Russell or the Squeelers with Big Ben? Then, a gigantic, moving forward check mark gets put up!

 

That's the funny thing when we're talking "signature" wins. Obviously none of those really mean the Bills "arrived" even though they might meet your definition. 

 

Fun factoid: The last 2 times the Bills beat the Patriots, the Patriots went on to win the SB  that year (2016 and 2014). 

[teef]

16 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

Of course, it is!

 

Not the gold of fools, the Silver of a performance against a Lombardi Winner! So many here, settle for crumbs after the generational Tire Fire, akin to an NFL Stockholm Syndrome Kidnapping. ( See Patriots Bills).

 

Have some respect! Desire excellence.

actually, you have the bar set low.  you desire regular season token super bowls.  some of us demand playoffs wins to know we've arrived?  wallow in you averageness.  some of us want, no...demand excellence!

[Billsatlastin2018]

2 minutes ago, teef said:

actually, you have the bar set low.  you desire regular season token super bowls.  some of us demand playoffs wins to know we've arrived?  wallow in you averageness.  some of us want, no...demand excellence!

The assumption is obviously- if you can beat Playoff Teams at a 50% rate, you can surely win, at least one Playoff game yourselves. If you can only do that between 10-20%, you’re obviously far, far, far from Prime Time and Playoff Ws! And, it is highly unlikely there has been a signature W, against a star studded, healthy opponent.

 

Like the Bills have been this entire generation, including under McClapper! 

[teef]

1 minute ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

The assumption is obviously- if you can beat Playoff Teams at a 50% rate, you can surely win, at least one Playoff game yourselves. If you can only do that between 10-20%, you’re obviously far, far, far from Prime Time and Playoff Ws! And, it is highly unlikely there has been a signature W, against a star studded, healthy opponent.

 

Like the Bills have been this entire generation, including under McClapper! 

sorry bro.  you can take your regular season trophies.  some of us want the real deal holyfield, and others like you...you'll settle.  

 

get to the playoffs and the big boy wins begin.  so be giddy that the raiders beat the chiefs...like it matters at all right now.   you may not be, but some of us are looking for more than regular season wins.   talk about setting the bar low.

[Billsatlastin2018]

1 minute ago, teef said:

sorry bro.  you can take your regular season trophies.  some of us want the real deal holyfield, and others like you...you'll settle.  

 

get to the playoffs and the big boy wins begin.  so be giddy that the raiders beat the chiefs...like it matters at all right now.   you may not be, but some of us are looking for more than regular season wins.   talk about setting the bar low.

I’m always looking for Playoff Ws.
Like, there have been sooooo many of those since 1995!

 

1995!!!
The Bills are 1/8 teams that haven’t played in a Conference Championship since 1996. That’s how pitiful, they have been.

24 freaking years!

25 without a Playoff W.

 

That’s why I said earlier that the minimum bar is to beat Playoff Teams at a 50% rate minimum, so that you win your Division and finish 1/2 in the Seedings. In that way, I obviously believe the goal should be to reach the Conference Championship. By winning Playoff games. But, If you can’t beat a majority of Playoff teams during the Reg Season, then you are most likely not making them.

Nor, beating anyone, should you have the luck of the stiff 2019 sked. A la McClapper.

[teef]

1 minute ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

I’m always looking for Playoff Ws.
Like, there have been sooooo many of those since 1995!

 

1995!!!
The Bills are 1/8 teams that haven’t played in a Conference Championship since 1996. That’s how pitiful, they have been.

24 freaking years!

25 without a Playoff W.

 

That’s why I said earlier that the minimum bar is to beat Playoff Teams at a 50% rate minimum, so that you win your Division and finish 1/2 in the Seedings. In that way, I obviously believe the goal should be to reach the Conference Championship. By winning Playoff games. But, If you can’t beat a majority of Playoff teams during the Reg Season, then you are most likely not making them.

Nor, beating anyone, should you have the luck of the stiff 2019 sked. A la McClapper.

you keep telling me about the regular season.  it's like you prefer the salad over the steak.  move the bar bro.  think bigger.  i think you're just so accustomed to seeing this team miss the playoffs for so many years, that regular season wins are major accomplishments to you.    winning the east and snagging those playoff wins...that's what you should be concentrating on.  

 

move...that...bar

[Billsatlastin2018]

1 minute ago, teef said:

you keep telling me about the regular season.  it's like you prefer the salad over the steak.  move the bar bro.  think bigger.  i think you're just so accustomed to seeing this team miss the playoffs for so many years, that regular season wins are major accomplishments to you.    winning the east and snagging those playoff wins...that's what you should be concentrating on.  

 

move...that...bar

Had the best bar.... from 1988-1995 as a Season Tix holder.
The bar then was winning EVERY game and the SB!
 

I’m a little more relaxed now and stone cold realistic, notwithstanding what I want.

[Franchiseneedsme]

On 10/26/2020 at 12:57 AM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I thought our win in Pittsburgh last year was a signature win. 

Who was the QB that day again?

[Billsfan1972]

58 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

A signature win isn't just against a good opponent.  It's a win that signifies that you've arrived, that you are one of the elite.  It's a win over a team that already is there at the top.   It's a win that says you've joined the club.  

And there hasn't been one, which is the debate here.  

 

If you're going to say they arrived beating Duck or Thanksgiving vs. Dallas, who btw went 8-8 going 5-1 in the division & beating Detroit, Miami and LA Rams (but yes two wins vs. 9-7 teams), again that is laughable. 

 

Bills only win in 2019 vs. a winning team was vs. Tenn (Mariotta + 4 missed FG).

 

Go Bills (& spank the Pats)....... 

[teef]

9 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

Had the best bar.... from 1988-1995 as a Season Tix holder.
The bar then was winning EVERY game and the SB!
 

I’m a little more relaxed now and stone cold realistic, notwithstanding what I want.

i don't know man.  worrying about the quality of the wins during the regular season doesn't seem too relaxed.  i can't be relaxed when there excellence to still obtain.  i want to win.  i want more!

Just now, Billsfan1972 said:

And there hasn't been one, which is the debate here.  

 

If you're going to say they arrived beating Duck or Thanksgiving vs. Dallas, who btw went 8-8 going 5-1 in the division & beating Detroit, Miami and LA Rams (but yes two wins vs. 9-7 teams), again that is laughable. 

 

Bills only win in 2019 vs. a winning team was vs. Tenn (Mariotta + 4 missed FG).

 

Go Bills (& spank the Pats)....... 

regular season wins?  big deal.  let start looking for playoff wins.  try to think bigger than you are.  stop worrying about 300 yard games, and worry about advancing in the playoffs.  

 

you guys spend far too much time worrying about useless details.  desire more. don't be beaten down.  

[Billsfan1972]

5 minutes ago, teef said:

i don't know man.  worrying about the quality of the wins during the regular season doesn't seem too relaxed.  i can't be relaxed when there excellence to still obtain.  i want to win.  i want more!

regular season wins?  big deal.  let start looking for playoff wins.  try to think bigger than you are.  stop worrying about 300 yard games, and worry about advancing in the playoffs.  

 

you guys spend far too much time worrying about useless details.  desire more. don't be beaten down.  

And you are here too aren't you......😉 

 

All things considered the Bills may not need a "signature" win to even make the playoffs this year (though some think beating the Pats qualify).....  2XNE, Den, Miami & LAC get's the Bills to 10-6......

 

I dream big.....😉

 

 

[teef]

3 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

And you are here too aren't you......😉 

 

All things considered the Bills may not need a "signature" win to even make the playoffs this year (though some think beating the Pats qualify).....  2XNE, Den, Miami & LAC get's the Bills to 10-6......

 

I dream big.....😉

 

 

people who dream big don't worry about "signature" wins during the regular season.  we just want the big show.  let me know when you've set the bar higher than some basic, regular season stats.  want more bro.

 

[corta765]

They won on the road in 2017 against ATL and KC both who made the playoffs that season and prior year. The Falcons were in the SB and at the time that win was consider the biggest in over a decade plus on the road.

I don't disagree they need to win more games against the top teams regularly to take the next step, but there have been wins yearly that are sizable.

[Billsfan1972]

13 minutes ago, corta765 said:

They won on the road in 2017 against ATL and KC both who made the playoffs that season and prior year. The Falcons were in the SB and at the time that win was consider the biggest in over a decade plus on the road.

I don't disagree they need to win more games against the top teams regularly to take the next step, but there have been wins yearly that are sizable.

As stated Atl was very early in McD's tenure and we were already told not to expect much, but yep a very good win, as was KC.

2018 Tenn & Minn

2019 Tenn

 

Thus I will repeat not including 2020 they are 5-17 vs. those with a record over .500.  Conversely they are 20-6 vs. all others.

 

[Billsatlastin2018]

34 minutes ago, corta765 said:

They won on the road in 2017 against ATL and KC both who made the playoffs that season and prior year. The Falcons were in the SB and at the time that win was consider the biggest in over a decade plus on the road.

I don't disagree they need to win more games against the top teams regularly to take the next step, but there have been wins yearly that are sizable.

 

Waaaaaaay too FEW!

 

24% Pre McD

15% NOW!

 

AWFUL!

[BITE ME]

21 hours ago, Gene1973 said:

Yes, that is correct. He does not. The previous 17 years has no bearing on this.

Yes, the history of the team has nothing to do with a signature win.  lol   You can't really be that stupid.  McDermott has a win that put the team in the playoffs for the first time in 17 years.  Nobody in 17 prior years can say that.  

 

 

[machine gun kelly]

3 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Machine G. Kelly, please come over when you have the chance and fix my VCR as it is continually blinking "12:00".

 

 

....It's for TAPES!   You'd take the cassette...put in...it would grab it and then you would hit "play" and you could watch movies that you rented from a video store, like E.T. and Evil Dead 2.

 

...a video store was a brick and mortar structure that...oh forget it.  

 

I can lend you my beta max. Oh yeah, wait my eight track player, oh, uggh, ok my beeper.  It’s what the kids are doing.

[dollars 2 donuts]

2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

I can lend you my beta max. Oh yeah, wait my eight track player, oh, uggh, ok my beeper.  It’s what the kids are doing.

 

outstanding!  😂😂😂

[uticaclub]

6 hours ago, teef said:

people who dream big don't worry about "signature" wins during the regular season.  we just want the big show.  let me know when you've set the bar higher than some basic, regular season stats.  want more bro.

 

You have to beat great teams to get to the show, we have yet to prove we can beat a good team.

[machine gun kelly]

You mean like beating the 5-2 Rams, who just beat the 5-1 Bears.  The Dolphins are no slouches and the Raiders record just went backwards, but will show by the end of the year they are a good team.  After we win this week, you’ll make the same argument and we’ll be 6-2.  The Hawks and Cardinals will be tough tests.

[teef]

7 hours ago, uticaclub said:

You have to beat great teams to get to the show, we have yet to prove we can beat a good team.

You know when we’ll beat those good teams?  In the playoffs bro.  In the playoffs. 

[Billsfan1972]

10 hours ago, High Football IQ said:

Has any media member ever asked McClappy why he can't blow another NFL team out? I'd be curious to see his response but then again it'd probably be something like 'it's hard to win games in this league, you need to play tough, hang around in the 4th quarter each week and try and find a way to win'.

 

Also for the folks that insist on pointing to last year's Cowboys game as a 'signature win'....we beat them by 11 points and scored two total TD's. Also they weren't a playoff team and the middle of a downward spiral.

 

The Steelers SNF game is a similar story and it took 5 INT's from a fringe 3rd string QB that will likely never seen a meaningful snap in an NFL game again to barely hang on and in that one.

 

Maybe someday this coach will go on the road against a dominant 13 win team and blow them out but don't bet the proverbial farm on it, until then enjoy all the low scoring, one score wins that has been his MO since 2017.

You are not allowed to talk about these things with McD as coach, because remember it is a Process.

 

Now being blown out, that's okay, because it happens.  To actually blow-out a team, is just not something the Bills do.....

 

Notwithstanding they have won some games by lopsided scores, but that is lost with the Offense (prior to this year) usually being shutdown come the second half. 

[Billsfan1972]

6 minutes ago, teef said:

You know when we’ll beat those good teams?  In the playoffs bro.  In the playoffs. 

Wouldn't mind a taste in the regular season.  Only beaten three playoff teams 2017-19, the Falcons 10-6, Chiefs 10-6 in 2017 & last year's Titans 9-7.

 

A little practice (i.e. beating playoff teams) wouldn't be a bad idea.....😉