kareem Hunt - Devin Singletary comparison from CBSsports.

[CorkScrewHill]

This was a nice piece of comparison between Devin and kareem by cbssports

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/why-bills-running-back-devin-singletary-will-have-a-kareem-hunt-type-breakout-on-the-field-in-2020/

 

Interesting notes: "He became just the 11th first-year ball carrier over the past decade to eclipse 750 yards on the ground at more than 5.0 yards per carry."

 

"forced 36 missed tackles on his 151 attempts for Buffalo a season ago, good for a rate of 23.8%. Hunt forced 61 missed tackles on 272 rookie-season carries with the Chiefs, which equates to a rate of 22.4%"

 

Worth a quick read.

[Sherlock Holmes]

6 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

This was a nice piece of comparison between Devin and kareem by cbssports

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/why-bills-running-back-devin-singletary-will-have-a-kareem-hunt-type-breakout-on-the-field-in-2020/

 

Interesting notes: "He became just the 11th first-year ball carrier over the past decade to eclipse 750 yards on the ground at more than 5.0 yards per carry."

 

"forced 36 missed tackles on his 151 attempts for Buffalo a season ago, good for a rate of 23.8%. Hunt forced 61 missed tackles on 272 rookie-season carries with the Chiefs, which equates to a rate of 22.4%"

 

Worth a quick read.

I love how they knew that they had to mention the Kareem Hunt type breakout will be ON the field and not off

[Da webster guy]

I see their point, but the Motor's running style with his dead stop jump cuts is nothing anyone else is doing at that level.

 

Not just effective, the most fun guy to watch run the ball in the whole league if you prefer the Barry Sanders style over the power guys like Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry etc.

[DFT]

Just now, Da webster guy said:

I see their point, but the Motor's running style with his dead stop jump cuts is nothing anyone else is doing at that level.

 

Not just effective, the most fun guy to watch run the ball in the whole league if you prefer the Barry Sanders style over the power guys like Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry etc.

His running mate can do very much the same, but is considered a power back by many who didn’t watch him.   Zach Moss is gonna wow the fans.  A guy that physically imposing shouldn’t be able to move the way he does.   One of the most exciting and severely underrated elements of the Buffalo Bills this year will be the ground game in my opinion.

[CorkScrewHill]

35 minutes ago, Da webster guy said:

I see their point, but the Motor's running style with his dead stop jump cuts is nothing anyone else is doing at that level.

 

Not just effective, the most fun guy to watch run the ball in the whole league if you prefer the Barry Sanders style over the power guys like Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry etc.

Barry Sanders was the best RB I ever saw .. playing for a horrible team ... poor guys talents were wasted. His moves were dirty.

[MJS]

53 minutes ago, DFT said:

His running mate can do very much the same, but is considered a power back by many who didn’t watch him.   Zach Moss is gonna wow the fans.  A guy that physically imposing shouldn’t be able to move the way he does.   One of the most exciting and severely underrated elements of the Buffalo Bills this year will be the ground game in my opinion.

I really think both backs will have an excellent season as long as Daboll doesn't abandon the run like he did for stretches last year.

[Doc]

1 hour ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Barry Sanders was the best RB I ever saw .. playing for a horrible team ... poor guys talents were wasted. His moves were dirty.

 

Yup.  Would have easily been the leading rusher forever in NFL history if he had continued playing.

Edited August 14, 2020 by Doc

[GoBills808]

1 hour ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Barry Sanders was the best RB I ever saw .. playing for a horrible team ... poor guys talents were wasted. His moves were dirty.

yup Lions had the two greatest physical talents ever at their respective offensive positions (RB and WR) and wasted both

[JohnNord]

Interesting viewpoint from Sal a few weeks ago.  He said that Motor was close to breaking longer runs.  He was one player away in some cases.  If he’s right it’s great news because the knock on him was that he didn’t have the speed to bust a long run

[DJB]

I dont see the Singletary and Hunt comparison. 

 

If anything Moss is like Hunt as both are big physical backs who are also excellent at catching the ball. 

Edited August 14, 2020 by DJB

[Billl]

I like Singletary, but I need to see him score.  Yards per carry is nice, but it’s not nearly as important if all your carries are between the twenties where yards are cheap.  Hunt had 11 TDs as a rookie.  He fumbled on his first career carry and then had around 600 touches without fumbling again.  If motor can hold onto the ball and find the endzone, he’s going to be a good one.

 

Also just saw that he had 41 targets in the passing game but only 5 catches for first downs.  Seems oddly low.

[Big Turk]

9 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Barry Sanders was the best RB I ever saw .. playing for a horrible team ... poor guys talents were wasted. His moves were dirty.

 

Some of his moves should have been illegal.

[Not at the table Karlos]

37 minutes ago, Billl said:

I like Singletary, but I need to see him score.  Yards per carry is nice, but it’s not nearly as important if all your carries are between the twenties where yards are cheap.  Hunt had 11 TDs as a rookie.  He fumbled on his first career carry and then had around 600 touches without fumbling again.  If motor can hold onto the ball and find the endzone, he’s going to be a good one.

 

Also just saw that he had 41 targets in the passing game but only 5 catches for first downs.  Seems oddly low.

Seems like we get very conservative in the redzone. We call less passes and (don’t have data to back up) I think we used gore more because he fumbled less. The Coaches seem very scared of turnovers in redzone. 

[purple haze]

11 hours ago, DFT said:

His running mate can do very much the same, but is considered a power back by many who didn’t watch him.   Zach Moss is gonna wow the fans.  A guy that physically imposing shouldn’t be able to move the way he does.   One of the most exciting and severely underrated elements of the Buffalo Bills this year will be the ground game in my opinion.

Truth.  
 

When healthy, Moss will make some people miss and he can run at a good pace too.   He’s not just a run into people guy.  I don’t know why people only mention his physicality.  Actually, Moss Kind of reminds me of Frank Gore w/the 49ers and Mark Ingram.

[Milanos Milano]

Would be fun if the NFL had another Sanders. That dude was one of the funnest players to watch. Straight up filth. 

[Locomark]

11 hours ago, MJS said:

I really think both backs will have an excellent season as long as Daboll doesn't abandon the run like he did for stretches last year.

Honestly I think this year you can use the pass and play action to set up the run for some opponents and for others you run it down their throats. We should have the talent to do both now. Before it was always run first and every opponent knew it. Our play action should be killer this year! 

[Milanos Milano]

5 minutes ago, Locomark said:

Honestly I think this year you can use the pass and play action to set up the run for some opponents and for others you run it down their throats. We should have the talent to do both now. Before it was always run first and every opponent knew it. Our play action should be killer this year! 

 

It’s so Billsy that this year is probably the best year talent wise since the 90s and the season might be handicapped. So excited this year for the team. Play action is going to be so fun. Can’t wait. 

[Locomark]

1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said:

 

It’s so Billsy that this year is probably the best year talent wise since the 90s and the season might be handicapped. So excited this year for the team. Play action is going to be so fun. Can’t wait. 

In general I don’t believe in Billsy, Bills bad luck, jinxed, etc. You make your own luck. Our management sucked for decades and therefore so did our team. Now we have a good team and we will make our own good luck. What happened 30 years ago doesn’t affect players that weren’t even born then, it’s just in our heads not theirs. They just know we win in Buffalo. So let’s get them in the mindset that we not only get to the playoffs but we contend for the Super Bowl every year. This year we can contend for a Super Bowl. It’s a reality once again and that is exciting! 

[DBilz2500]

11 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Barry Sanders was the best RB I ever saw .. playing for a horrible team ... poor guys talents were wasted. His moves were dirty.

And he had sub 4.4 homerun breakaway speed. Unfortunately Devin does not have that 

Edited August 15, 2020 by DBilz2500

[CorkScrewHill]

2 minutes ago, DBilz2500 said:

And he had sub 4.4 homerun breakaway speed. Unfortunately Devin does not have that 

I remember Conlan or Biscuit saying one time that they hated playing against him as they were worried they would pull a muscle trying to recover from his moves

[Richard Noggin]

17 minutes ago, Locomark said:

In general I don’t believe in Billsy, Bills bad luck, jinxed, etc. You make your own luck. Our management sucked for decades and therefore so did our team. Now we have a good team and we will make our own good luck. What happened 30 years ago doesn’t affect players that weren’t even born then, it’s just in our heads not theirs. They just know we win in Buffalo. So let’s get them in the mindset that we not only get to the playoffs but we contend for the Super Bowl every year. This year we can contend for a Super Bowl. It’s a reality once again and that is exciting! 

Right, but the poster's point was that now the Bills HAVE begun to "make their own luck," really bad luck (and other factors) is threatening to eff up the season. We've waited forever to watch a truly competitive team again, and it might get thwarted by something entirely outside of the team's control.

 

That's next-level Billsy.

 

4D Billsy.

 

Quantum Billsy.

[DBilz2500]

48 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

I remember Conlan or Biscuit saying one time that they hated playing against him as they were worried they would pull a muscle trying to recover from his moves

He was absolutely incredible to watch. The guy averaged 1500 rushing yards a season, over 5.0 YPC, had a mostly subpar offensive line and little to no psssing game for most of his career meaning he faced mostly stacked boxes every season. There’s almost no argument that he’s the greatest back of all time.  

[Chandler#81]

18 hours ago, MJS said:

I really think both backs will have an excellent season as long as Daboll doesn't abandon the run like he did for stretches last year.

I don’t follow you here. Gore was toast by the Washington game and Motor was just beginning to hit stride. The new passing game also began to gel at the same time. It was good enough to get us 10-3. Are you related to @ScottLaw?

7 hours ago, Locomark said:

In general I don’t believe in Billsy, Bills bad luck, jinxed, etc. You make your own luck. Our management sucked for decades and therefore so did our team. Now we have a good team and we will make our own good luck. What happened 30 years ago doesn’t affect players that weren’t even born then, it’s just in our heads not theirs. They just know we win in Buffalo. So let’s get them in the mindset that we not only get to the playoffs but we contend for the Super Bowl every year. This year we can contend for a Super Bowl. It’s a reality once again and that is exciting! 

In general, you’re ‘loco, Mark’. Or very young. There’s only a small handful of teams left in the NFL who don’t have a Lombardi Trophy. Stanley Cup? Fuggetaboutit. “Jackie will get it done!” Oops. “JOE will get it done!” Crap! “ JIMBO WILL Get it done!” Dammit!! “The French Connection will get it done!” SONOFA! “Hasek will carry us through!” F*#%!!

 

I once was as you are now. Blind faith. But I’ve seen more ‘die hard’ Bills fans die, who could fill the stadium than those who don’t acknowledge ‘the Jinx’. My 86 year old Dad is hanging on, hoping to see the jinx end that his 99 y/o Dad was unable to witness (sans Back to Back AFL titles). Now, closer to 70 than 60, I’ve finally come to know a jinx when I see one..

[Punching Bag]

23 hours ago, Da webster guy said:

I see their point, but the Motor's running style with his dead stop jump cuts is nothing anyone else is doing at that level.

 

Not just effective, the most fun guy to watch run the ball in the whole league if you prefer the Barry Sanders style over the power guys like Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry etc.

 

I prefer the Barry Sanders style if it does not come with as many losses behind line of scrimmage.

13 hours ago, matter2003 said:

 

Some of his moves should have been illegal.

 

It seems the NFL does that with Special teams players who cannot be stopped by three players not RBs.

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

I prefer the Barry Sanders style if it does not come with as many losses behind line of scrimmage.

The amazing thing is that he did it with so many runs for losses. Which was a function of this poor offensive line.

 

Two-thirds of Emmett Smith’s yards came before he was touched by defender. Can you imagine Barry behind that offensive line?

[Punching Bag]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

The amazing thing is that he did it with so many runs for losses. Which was a function of this poor offensive line.

 

Two-thirds of Emmett Smith’s yards came before he was touched by defender. Can you imagine Barry behind that offensive line?

 

Smith also got a lot of breaks due to fake injuries which "looked like he may be out of the game" but he came back after one play off. 

 

He should have gotten a daytime Emmy award for his acting!

 

[machine gun kelly]

Sanders was amazing.  I used to go to Bucs/Lions games only because of him as the creamsicles were horrible until Dungy and even that took a couple of years (remember it was the NFCC back then).  The first QB though that was a man amongst boys though was Simpson.  I know he was a piece of crap off the field after the Police Squad movies (Nordberg), but it was like him running against children.  Admittedly I was only a toddler during his 2003 yard season, but do remember after, and the video of his prime was incredible.
 

I know Motor only ran a 4.6 in the combine, but he seems to have football speed.  As someone else said, this is going to be a great running team this year and even moreso when we have the play action take hold, and when they try and press up, Diggs, Brown, Beasley, and Knox will kill them downfield.

[machine gun kelly]

32 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Smith also got a lot of breaks due to fake injuries which "looked like he may be out of the game" but he came back after one play off. 

 

He should have gotten a daytime Emmy award for his acting!

 

“Elizabeth, I’m comin, I’m comin.“. Good one Lime man.  It is a sin not to see Sanders or Megatron in his prime not with a good team.  I was hoping and praying after a year off, Megatron couldn’t get released from his rights to another team to see what he could have done as long as not in a New England jersey.  That would have been a nightmare.  We sucked then, but imagine Megatron with teams like Baltimore or Pittsburgh with those two cannons for arms for their respective QB’s.

[GoBills808]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

The amazing thing is that he did it with so many runs for losses. Which was a function of this poor offensive line.

 

Two-thirds of Emmett Smith’s yards came before he was touched by defender. Can you imagine Barry behind that offensive line?

He also never played with a QB who was worth a damn, teams pretty much could load up to stop run and he still produced. Easily best back ever imo.