Black Lives Matter Messaging at "The Stadium"

[Johnnycage46]

3 hours ago, Augie said:

 

What a difference a year makes.......

 

Some good, lots bad, mostly painful......

Agree 100%. To quote The Doors "strange days have found us".

[Capco]

1 hour ago, PIZ said:

“We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable”.

 

So you don't trust BLM because they support the very unoriginal notion that it takes a village to raise a child?  Because they believe the level of individualism is too great and the level of community is too little in this country?

 

These are not at all new concepts, or even radical ones.  Geesh.  

Edited July 30, 2020 by Capco

[BullBuchanan]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

Look at Minneapolis

 

And that's BS about the military industrial complex. There's only good and evil in this world

 

And if we don't go out and fight isis it would bring it to our soil, or Al-Qaeda or whoever

 

We are free because we are willing to fight for freedom

Are you trolling or are you just doing your willfully ignorance show again?

[Buffalo716]

Just now, BullBuchanan said:

Are you trolling or are you just doing your willfully ignorance show again?

At the end of the day that's all it is. We're not even talking antifa or anything

 

There are good people and bad people. 

 

You don't think soldiers in world war II died for freedom for all people. You don't think getting rid of the Nazis was worth it

 

We got attacked by evil people on  911. So we fought back

 

The history of mankind is warfare. It's conquering and being conquered

 

And there's bad people in this world that sometimes you need to stop

[Capco]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

At the end of the day that's all it is. We're not even talking antifa or anything

 

There are good people and bad people. 

 

You don't think soldiers in world war II died for freedom for all people. You don't think getting rid of the Nazis was worth it

 

We got attacked by evil people on  911. So we fought back

 

The history of mankind is warfare. It's conquering and being conquered

 

And there's bad people in this world that sometimes you need to stop

 

The vast majority of people are products of their environment.  If you want fewer bad people then we need to improve the environments that create them.  

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, Capco said:

 

The vast majority of people are products of their environment.  If you want fewer bad people then we need to improve the environments that create them.  

I agree that people are products of their environment

[Teddy KGB]

How to exist on the streets of Minnesota ??‍♂️??‍♂️??‍♂️
 

 

[Capco]

1 hour ago, RiotAct said:

I mean, okay, it’s a pretty picture.  Where’s it from, and what methodology did the creator use to come up with that?

 

https://manifesto-project.wzb.eu/

[BullBuchanan]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

At the end of the day that's all it is. We're not even talking antifa or anything

 

There are good people and bad people. 

 

You don't think soldiers in world war II died for freedom for all people. You don't think getting rid of the Nazis was worth it

 

We got attacked by evil people on  911. So we fought back

 

The history of mankind is warfare. It's conquering and being conquered

 

And there's bad people in this world that sometimes you need to stop

There's no such thing as a good person. There's not even really such a thing as a bad person.
No, people in WW2 died because they were conscripted to die for money.
America created the opportunity for the Nazi's to rise to power. It was our responsibility to clean up our own mess.
We fought back against who on 9/11? Iraq? Afghanistan? They had nothing to do with 9/11

Who taught you any of this? They did you a grave disservice.

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

There's no such thing as a good person. There's not even really such a thing as a bad person.
No, people in WW2 died because they were conscripted to die for money.
America created the opportunity for the Nazi's to rise to power. It was our responsibility to clean up our own mess.
We fought back against who on 9/11? Iraq? Afghanistan? They had nothing to do with 9/11

Who taught you any of this? They did you a grave disservice.

I don't think you want to debate history with me I have a degree in it

 

You're just getting into conspiracies

 

And secondly we fought Al-Qaeda not Iraq or Afghanistan

Edited July 30, 2020 by Buffalo716

[BullBuchanan]

16 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Look at Minneapolis

What about it? For a city burned to the ground they managed to play a baseball game. Seems like a really nice day out there.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/video/4645046-wcco-evening-digital-update-july-28-2020/

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

I don't think you want to debate history with me I have a degree in it

 

You're just getting into conspiracies

 

And secondly we fought Al-Qaeda not Iraq or Afghanistan

You should ask for a refund. I would happily debate you in history; I've been a student of it my whole life.

You clearly have no idea what the Treaty of Versailles was or what was in it.

Saddam Hussein would be pleased to hear that we never fought Iraq

[Buffalo716]

Just now, BullBuchanan said:

What about it? For a city burned to the ground they managed to play a baseball game. Seems like a really nice day out there.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/video/4645046-wcco-evening-digital-update-july-28-2020/

 

 

[KD in CA]

^

Gee, funny how none of this makes it onto the network evening news.   But there's always some sob story about someone who died from the virus.

[BullBuchanan]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/07/28/896515022/minneapolis-police-reportedly-identify-viral-umbrella-man-as-white-supremacist

[KD in CA]

13 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

How to exist on the streets of Minnesota ??‍♂️??‍♂️??‍♂️
 

 

 

Surprised they didn't include "Vote Democratic!" on the list.

 

Oh wait....never mind.  It says "do not argue or fight with the criminal".

[Buffalo716]

9 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

What about it? For a city burned to the ground they managed to play a baseball game. Seems like a really nice day out there.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/video/4645046-wcco-evening-digital-update-july-28-2020/

You should ask for a refund. I would happily debate you in history; I've been a student of it my whole life.

You clearly have no idea what the Treaty of Versailles was or what was in it.

Saddam Hussein would be pleased to hear that we never fought Iraq

I know what the treaty of Versailles is and we did invade Iraq under the guise of wmds

 

We never found any but that doesn't mean he wasn't oppressive

 

We invaded Afghanistan because they were harboring terrorists. Again they brought evil to our country

 

4 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/07/28/896515022/minneapolis-police-reportedly-identify-viral-umbrella-man-as-white-supremacist

1 person makes everybody go crazy? Just gives everyone a free pass? Lol

 

He didn't do all the damage

Edited July 30, 2020 by Buffalo716

[KD in CA]

2 hours ago, Capco said:

 

(I posted this in another thread a couple days ago)

 

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words.  Here's where our two parties lie on a complete left-right spectrum of the major political parties in the world.  

 

 

If you drew a line connecting those two highlighted dots and found their midpoint (i.e. the middle of America), it would fall quite far to the right of the center as defined by the aggregate political policies of the entire world.  

 

The United States is one of the most right wing industrialized nations in the world.  You can see how our "left" is barely to the left of center.  

 

Aaaaaaaaaaand the global average is something we should aspire to??  

 

Gee, I guess it's just luck that we ended up as the #1 superpower for the last hundred years.   

[BullBuchanan]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I know what the treaty of Versailles is and we did invade Iraq under the guise of wmds

 

We never found any but that doesn't mean he wasn't oppressive

 

We invaded Afghanistan because they were harboring terrorists. Again they brought evil to our country

 

1 person makes everybody go crazy? Just gives everyone a free pass? Lol

 

He didn't do all the damage

 

Who? None of the 9/11 attackers were Afghani. They were mostly Saudi & Egyptian. When did we invade them?

War is about money and power, nothing else. America never fought a war because it was the right thing to do, ever. If we did, there would have been very just causes and we stayed on the sidelines or supported oppressive regimes instead.

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

 

Who? None of the 9/11 attackers were Afghani. They were mostly Saudi & Egyptian. When did we invade them?

War is about money and power, nothing else. America never fought a war because it was the right thing to do, ever. If we did, there would have been very just causes and we stayed on the sidelines or supported oppressive regimes instead.

Because Afghanistan was harboring terrorist cells.

 

The history of mankind is warfare that's the truth. From ancient Babylon, to the Greeks and Persians and Romans etc

 

We are not the first to fight. And we are fighting evil. If you saw what isis was doing to women and children the last few years , you would think they needed to be eradicated

 

 

Edited July 30, 2020 by Buffalo716

[Capco]

6 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Aaaaaaaaaaand the global average is something we should aspire to??  

 

Gee, I guess it's just luck that we ended up as the #1 superpower for the last hundred years.   

 

If you believe that being a right wing country allowed us to become a superpower and that there is some type of correlation there, then it's only logical that you'd support the US moving even further to the right, to the point of becoming a fascist state.  Wow...

 

And btw, the shift to the right didn't occur until the 80s.  The Greatest Generation and the policies of FDR that set the groundwork for America's greatness were not right wing policies at all.  The right wing polices of Herbert Hoover did wonders at fixing the Great Depression, didn't they?  

[KD in CA]

7 minutes ago, Capco said:

 

If you believe that being a right wing country allowed us to become a superpower and that there is some type of correlation there, then it's only logical that you'd support the US moving even further to the right, to the point of becoming a fascist state.  Wow...

 

And btw, the shift to the right didn't occur until the 80s.  The Greatest Generation and the policies of FDR that set the groundwork for America's greatness were not right wing policies at all.  The right wing polices of Herbert Hoover did wonders at fixing the Great Depression, didn't they?  

 

How'd you make that idiotic leap?   Are you so desperate for an argument that you can't put any more thought into your strawmen then that??

 

You're a joke.

Edited July 30, 2020 by KD in CA

[BullBuchanan]

28 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Because Afghanistan was harboring terrorist cells.

 

The history of mankind is warfare that's the truth. From ancient Babylon, to the Greeks and Persians and Romans etc

 

We are not the first to fight. And we are fighting evil. If you saw what isis was doing to women and children the last few years , you would think they needed to be eradicated

 

 

We ARE the evil in the world as far as most of the world is concerned, including many of us who were born here. 

The US created ISIS when we invaded Iraq and started killing their citizens. GWB was an incompetent fool led around by the nose by Cheney who bred enough war and unrest int eh area to ensure a never ending profit machine. Much like the Treaty of Versailles, America's actions created a ripe environment for sons of dead fathers and fathers of dead sons to be radicalized to fight the west. We didn't finish the job we should have never started, and that's why ISIS is here. 

It's 100% America's fault.   

Edited July 30, 2020 by BullBuchanan

[Teddy KGB]

1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

We ARE the evil in the world as far as most of the world is concerned, including many of us who were born here. 

The US created ISIS when we invaded Iraq and started killing their citizens. GWB was an incompetent fool led around by the nose by Cheney who bred enough war and unrest int eh area to ensure a never ending profit machine. Much like the Treaty of Versailles, America's actions created a ripe environment for sons of dead fathers and fatehrs of dead sons to be radicalized to fight the west. We didn't finish the job we should have never started, and that's why ISIS is here. 

It's 100% America's fault.   

You gonna be okay ?   

[Capco]

2 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

How'd you make that idiotic leap?   Are you so desperate for an argument that you can't put any more thought into your strawmen then that??

 

You're a joke.

 

Because you just stated that being a right wing country and being the #1 superpower are correlated.  Your words, not mine. 

 

In other words, the further to the right a country is, the more success it will have on a global scale. 

 

If you don't understand what a correlation is then this is going to be a fun conversation.  

[BullBuchanan]

Just now, Teddy KGB said:

You gonna be okay ?   

I'm great. I'm just wondering who's handing out history degrees without requiring any subject matter expertise. I'd be interested in buying one.

[Capco]

Just now, BullBuchanan said:

I'm great. I'm just wondering who's handing out history degrees without requiring any subject matter expertise. I'd be interested in buying one.

 

No you wouldn't.  You'd do it the traditional way like reading books and doing research.  

 

[Kirby Jackson]

This thread is a lot...

[Buffalo716]

32 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

We ARE the evil in the world as far as most of the world is concerned, including many of us who were born here. 

The US created ISIS when we invaded Iraq and started killing their citizens. GWB was an incompetent fool led around by the nose by Cheney who bred enough war and unrest int eh area to ensure a never ending profit machine. Much like the Treaty of Versailles, America's actions created a ripe environment for sons of dead fathers and fathers of dead sons to be radicalized to fight the west. We didn't finish the job we should have never started, and that's why ISIS is here. 

It's 100% America's fault.   

There are many people in Afghanistan and Iraq thankful for when we fought to liberate them and that's also a truth that you don't want to hear

 

Have a good night

29 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I'm great. I'm just wondering who's handing out history degrees without requiring any subject matter expertise. I'd be interested in buying one.

Dude you just think America is evil

Edited July 30, 2020 by Buffalo716

[JoPoy88]

3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Where would you rather live than America?

what a cop out. Okay, world traveler, what’s your frame of reference for making a statement like that? I know I don’t have one; I haven’t traveled to enough places. So my educated answer would be “I don’t know, maybe Denmark.” All I can go on is the data. Which you ignore and listen to the TV instead. Ignorance in its purest form. 

[Buffalo716]

18 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

what a cop out. Okay, world traveler, what’s your frame of reference for making a statement like that? I know I don’t have one; I haven’t traveled to enough places. So my educated answer would be “I don’t know, maybe Denmark.” All I can go on is the data. Which you ignore and listen to the TV instead. Ignorance in its purest form. 

I actually don't watch TV. Besides sporting events

 

And I don't claim to be some, I have the answer for everything guy. all I know is that America still receives the most immigrants every year out of any country in the world by far

 

To me that means a lot of people still see more opportunity here than anywhere. That's what I based it on

Edited July 30, 2020 by Buffalo716

[JoPoy88]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I actually don't watch TV

 

And I don't claim to be some, I have the answer for everything guy. all I know is that America still receives the most immigrants every year out of any country in the world by far

 

To me that means a lot of people still see more opportunity here than anywhere

Net immigration to the US has been in decline for the last several years my goalpost moving friend. You said one thing about economic mobility that was demonstrably false and now you wanna talk about immigration as THE indicator. Not how it works.

[Buffalo716]

7 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

Net immigration to the US has been in decline for the last several years my goalpost moving friend. You said one thing about economic mobility that was demonstrably false and now you wanna talk about immigration as THE indicator. Not how it works.

I still believe you could make tons of money in this country. Capitalism rewards hard work

 

I don't take back that statement. I think there's tons of economic freedom in this country

 

And the 50 million immigrants who came here see the same opportunity

Edited July 30, 2020 by Buffalo716

[GoBills808]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I still believe you could make tons of money in this country. Capitalism rewards hard work

 

I don't take back that statement. I think there's tons of economic freedom in this country

 

And the 50 million immigrants who came here last year see the same opportunity

Capitalism doesn’t reward hard work, it leverages it.

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Capitalism doesn’t reward hard work, it leverages it.

However you say it, I'd rather live in a capitalist society than a Communist one

[Nelius]

6 hours ago, inaugural balls said:

 

I'm afraid it's been cancelled.

 

This is both hilarious and terrifying right now. That Nato move today, woo boy. Have at it, Russia.

 

4 hours ago, LB3 said:

Portland and Seattle are peaceful! Lol.

 

All of this is actually incredibly concentrated. Like a four block radius. It's hard to gauge when you're viewing the chaos of a Youtube video with 12 streamers but I've got friends in Portland that can still get coffee nearby. The vast majority of neighborhoods are entirely unaffected.

Edited July 30, 2020 by Nelius

[Nelius]

55 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

what a cop out. Okay, world traveler, what’s your frame of reference for making a statement like that? I know I don’t have one; I haven’t traveled to enough places. So my educated answer would be “I don’t know, maybe Denmark.” All I can go on is the data. Which you ignore and listen to the TV instead. Ignorance in its purest form. 

 

I feel like most people who scream things like this have never even left their county. High school heroes and whatnot. Uprooting is frankly impossible at most stages in life, but if I were 22 and single right now I'd move to Prague or Berlin (the irony!) in a heartbeat, although neither would accept me because I'm a disease-ridden American.

[White Linen]

50 minutes ago, Nelius said:

 

I feel like most people who scream things like this have never even left their county. High school heroes and whatnot. Uprooting is frankly impossible at most stages in life, but if I were 22 and single right now I'd move to Prague or Berlin (the irony!) in a heartbeat, although neither would accept me because I'm a disease-ridden American.

 

Poor fella drew the short straw on where he was born.

[John from Riverside]

56 minutes ago, Nelius said:

 

I feel like most people who scream things like this have never even left their county. High school heroes and whatnot. Uprooting is frankly impossible at most stages in life, but if I were 22 and single right now I'd move to Prague or Berlin (the irony!) in a heartbeat, although neither would accept me because I'm a disease-ridden American.

Both Prague and Berlin are beautiful actually

 

And yes....ppl reallyh need to get out and see how the rest of the world lives for their own enrichment

[Dr.Sack]

4 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

There was a time in this country when religion and politics were not talked about openly

 

And we weren't at each other's throats. There is no reason for politics to be water cooler talk. There's way too much complication and passion involved

I’ve heard this sentiment before, perhaps I’m too young to remember this bygone era. My experience the past 15 years has been much different. And typically the higher the rank the more political one becomes regardless of ideology. 

[PIZ]

5 hours ago, Capco said:

 

So you don't trust BLM because they support the very unoriginal notion that it takes a village to raise a child?  Because they believe the level of individualism is too great and the level of community is too little in this country?

 

These are not at all new concepts, or even radical ones.  Geesh.  

The way that I interpret it is that they are taking the father out of the picture.
 

Why can’t it just be the phrase “all blacks matter”? I think that’s what most people believe. It should be as simple as that.