BullBuchanan Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Buffalo716 said: So they follow a movement of being anti capitalist, anti government and anti America? Awesome They follow a movement of being anti-fascist. Where did we lose you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I’m not gonna comment on this for the same reason McBeane doesn’t really comment on it. There’s no winning in this. You kneel with BLM and you alienate the patriotic folks. You go out of your way to say you love the country like Drew Brees and they’ll straight up come after you. We live in a country where people do not have tolerance for opinions that differ from their own. BLM is commies and patriotic folks are fascists. That’s how the two sides see each other. There’s no winning in this and that’s why the NFL never wanted this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: They follow a movement of being anti-fascist. Where did we lose you? We aren't in a facist country... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, LB3 said: Yahtzee! Thank you. The first few times I saw this I was just shocked. Now I see where you got your talking point. Keep drinking that Kool-aid. Wait, are you saying that's not true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, BullBuchanan said: They follow a movement of being anti-fascist. Where did we lose you? That's easy. That you believe the crush all dissenting opinions and burn chit to the ground movement is anti-fascist. Other than that though, you're on point. In case you struggle with other simple concepts, you don't wipe, then poop. Glad I could help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Buffalo716 said: We aren't in a facist country... The police starting riots, shooting first responders and the press, federal agents abducting people without warrants, the police covering the badge numbers, etc would be strong, strong evidence to the contrary. Do you know what fascism is? Because that's kind of exactly what it is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, BullBuchanan said: Wait, are you saying that's not true? ???? They're just a movement. Not an very financially backed organization. Santa will bring you lots of presents this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I guess I’m old, 13 and change years before I was born there was this thing called World War Two, that Americans took part in to end fascism, our whole government and country was Antifa in those days. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, LB3 said: That's easy. That you believe the crush all dissenting opinions and burn chit to the ground movement is anti-fascist. Other than that though, you're on point. In case you struggle with other simple concepts, you don't wipe, then poop. Glad I could help. That's not what's happening, at all but if it were, it would still not preclude one from being anti-fascist. You can burn down whatever you want, so long as you aren't the state (or an advocate of the state) without being a fascist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, BullBuchanan said: The police starting riots, shooting first responders and the press, federal agents abducting people without warrants, the police covering the badge numbers, etc would be strong, strong evidence to the contrary. Do you know what fascism is? Because that's kind of exactly what it is. ?????You're too much. This must be parody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: The police starting riots, shooting first responders and the press, federal agents abducting people without warrants, the police covering the badge numbers, etc would be strong, strong evidence to the contrary. Do you know what fascism is? Because that's kind of exactly what it is. My grandfather fled Nazi Germany I know facism because my family lived it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: So they follow a movement of being anti capitalist, anti government and anti America? Awesome actually anti facism , hence the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Don Otreply said: I guess I’m old, 13 and change years before I was born there was this thing called World War Two, that Americans took part in to end fascism, our whole government and country was Antifa in those days. And even before that, many proud American members of Antifa suited up to fight the fascists in Spain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, klos63 said: actually anti facism , hence the name. What's anti "facism"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, LB3 said: ?????You're too much. This must be parody. I take it you aren't seeing what's happening in seattle. Here's a tip. The police have the guns, and the tear gas, and the batons, and the shields. If you haven't seen the dozens and dozens of times they turned a peaceful protest intentionally violent, you're just being willfully ignorant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: I guess I’m old, 13 and change years before I was born there was this thing called World War Two, that Americans took part in to end fascism, our whole government and country was Antifa in those days. I'm sorry that you disparage those Americans by comparing them to the Marxist scum that Antifa is today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, klos63 said: actually anti facism , hence the name. But we aren't in a facist country, it's still the freest place on earth 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, BullBuchanan said: And even before that, many proud American members of Antifa suited up to fight the fascists in Spain. Yes they did, and we as a nation where very proud of them being active Anti fascists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: I take it you aren't seeing what's happening in seattle. Here's a tip. The police have the guns, and the tear gas, and the batons, and the shields. If you haven't seen the dozens and dozens of times they turned a peaceful protest intentionally violent, you're just being willfully ignorant. I get it. I've been drunk before and the disagreement was always the sober guy's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, LB3 said: What's anti "facism"? sorry , I left out an 's'. Did that confuse you more than you normally are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 So it looks like the issue we seem to be having is at the starting point of the debate...There are some who see America as a free, democratic nation and others who see it as a fascist dictatorship... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: But we aren't in a facist country, it's still the freest place on earth No we aren't, but there a many fascist tendencies coming from the administration. The freest place on earth? Not sure that's true. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, JaCrispy said: So it looks like the issue we seem to be having is at the starting point of the debate...There are some who see America as a free, democratic nation and others who see it as a fascist dictatorship... Losing an election is hard on some people. They just need to lash out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, JaCrispy said: So it looks like the issue we seem to be having is at the starting point of the debate...There are some who see America as a free, democratic nation and others who see it as a fascist dictatorship... If you are a simpleton, yes. Just now, LB3 said: Losing an election is hard on some people. They just need to lash out. Both sides have lost elections over the years, this is a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: But we aren't in a facist country, it's still the freest place on earth What exactly do you mean by “freest place on earth?” What is the exception that we have and no other country does that establishes that superlative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, klos63 said: If you are a simpleton, yes. Both sides have lost elections over the years, this is a bit more. America sux! Am I in the Antifa club now? Do I get a sticker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: But we aren't in a facist country, it's still the freest place on earth Source? Here are some of mine: United States added to list of most dangerous countries for journalists for first timehttps://rsf.org/sites/default/files/worldwilde_round-up.pdf USA 17th in Economic Freedomhttps://www.heritage.org/index/ranking?version=61 USA: 5th most Police Killings per countryhttps://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/police-killings-by-country Should I keep going? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Yea but antifa isn't the actual definition of anti fascists. Their own website calls them left leaning not right And one of their main goals is to suppress straight men and the facist world they created. That is facist in itself.. Not gonna lie, but this might be one of the dumbest posts I've read here in a long time. And this thread is already filled with dumb posts... and I'm only on page 2 of the thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Capco said: Not gonna lie, but this might be one of the dumbest posts I've read here in a long time. And this thread is already filled with dumb posts... and I'm only on page 2 of the thread. The truth is dumb to you. You must be a fascist anti-fascist. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, LB3 said: Losing an election is hard on some people. They just need to lash out. November’s going to be a blast. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, ctk232 said: What exactly do you mean by “freest place on earth?” What is the exception that we have and no other country does that establishes that superlative? There are more places and opportunities for advancement and wealth and freedom in America than any country on earth And yes my grandfather fled Nazi Germany with his family as they were taking power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, LB3 said: The truth is dumb to you. You must be a fascist anti-fascist. Cheers. The guy literally just said to be against fascism is itself fascist, and your response to me is this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: I mean there are hundreds on this board alone, including dozens int his thread. Being raised roman catholic, I can say that overwhelmingly, most Christians I've ever met are complete failures in followers of their own religion. Definitely a big difference between talking the talk and walking the walk. I can say when the walk is real, that will be just as obvious. I hope you come across the real deal to see the difference that makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Capco said: Not gonna lie, but this might be one of the dumbest posts I've read here in a long time. And this thread is already filled with dumb posts... and I'm only on page 2 of the thread. I actually just couldn't get my words out right maybe because I've had over a dozen concussions playing football But continue with your ad hominem attack Mr perfect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: There are more places and opportunities for advancement and wealth and freedom in America than any country on earth And yes my grandfather fled Nazi Germany with his family as they were taking power Equating money with freedom is the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Rico said: November’s going to be a blast. Just got domestic terrorism insurance for my house for the upcoming election...if Antifa or BLM riot, loot, or burn it to the ground, I get it rebuilt, for free, from the ground up...God bless America! Lol Edited July 30, 2020 by JaCrispy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, LB3 said: America sux! Am I in the Antifa club now? Do I get a sticker? No sticker , but we'll give you a helmet and a seat on the short bus. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Just now, Buffalo716 said: I actually just couldn't get my words out right maybe because I've had over a dozen concussions playing football But continue with your ad hominem attack Mr perfect It's not my responsibility to be able to decipher your words because of your medical history. What you type is the only thing I can go off of. Would you like to clarify what you meant? Because it was a very strange post to comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Source? Here are some of mine: United States added to list of most dangerous countries for journalists for first timehttps://rsf.org/sites/default/files/worldwilde_round-up.pdf USA 17th in Economic Freedomhttps://www.heritage.org/index/ranking?version=61 USA: 5th most Police Killings per countryhttps://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/police-killings-by-country Should I keep going? If you are born into poverty you have more chances for advancement in America and the chance to become stable than in any country on this Earth Hard work is still rewarded here more than anywhere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: There are more places and opportunities for advancement and wealth and freedom in America than any country on earth And yes my grandfather fled Nazi Germany with his family as they were taking power Re: the first point - that’s a very blanket statement without any supporting evidence. Economically speaking? Which industries? We guarantee greater social and economic advancement opportunities than literally every other country? It’s simply not a provable statement - you may have a case within a specific economic industry or sector but even then you’ll have a hard time finding the evidence for it. Socially it’s even more uphill. We have more “places and opportunities for freedom?” Again, more so than every other country? By what measurement? Re your second statement, I fail to see how that is relevant - your words and comments speak for themselves. Edited July 30, 2020 by ctk232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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