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Does anyone remember or even know about the change in Orange County, CA in the 2018 elections where the county & surrounding areas went from red to blue in a miraculous manner? Seems like ballot harvesting, a scheme invented by democrats was a key to making that happen. 

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On 6/11/2020 at 4:12 PM, 3rdnlng said:

Does anyone remember or even know about the change in Orange County, CA in the 2018 elections where the county & surrounding areas went from red to blue in a miraculous manner? Seems like ballot harvesting, a scheme invented by democrats was a key to making that happen. 

 

How exactly can Orange County be both "Orange County" and  "the county & surrounding areas" at the same time???  

 

More to the point than your geographically-impaired thinking, there's nothing "miraculous" about Orange County's voting Democratic in 2018.  It's called changing demographics.  The Republicans went from having a 10% advantage over Democrats among registered voters in 2013 to only a 1% advantage among registered voters in 2019.  At the same time, the number of non-aligned voters increased to more than 27% of registered voters.  That makes the electorate in the county much less predictable.   In 2016, Hillary Clinton became the first Democrat presidential candidate since 1936 to win the county, so there's nothing surprising about the Democrats taking the three Congressional seats in 2018.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

How exactly can Orange County be both "Orange County" and  "the county & surrounding areas" at the same time???  

 

More to the point than your geographically-impaired thinking, there's nothing "miraculous" about Orange County's voting Democratic in 2018.  It's called changing demographics.  The Republicans went from having a 10% advantage over Democrats among registered voters in 2013 to only a 1% advantage among registered voters in 2019.  At the same time, the number of non-aligned voters increased to more than 27% of registered voters.  That makes the electorate in the county much less predictable.   In 2016, Hillary Clinton became the first Democrat presidential candidate since 1936 to win the county, so there's nothing surprising about the Democrats taking the three Congressional seats in 2018.

 

 

Nice statistics. Quote 2019 stats for use in 2018 and then only use partial stats for the rest. Do you actually think that ballot harvesting is a good thing and the SoCal dems have no nefarious motives for promoting it? 

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On 6/9/2020 at 10:28 PM, JetsFan20 said:

Republicans don’t want vote by mail bc it chips away at their ability to do exactly this: target and disenfranchise Black voters and people of color.

Seems racist to say that blacks aren’t capable of voting the way everyone else does. 
 

Vote by mail has massive fraud potential. We need integrity in our elections. 

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5 minutes ago, Troll Toll said:

Seems racist to say that blacks aren’t capable of voting the way everyone else does. 
 

Vote by mail has massive fraud potential. We need integrity in our elections. 

 

No, no, you've got it all wrong. The racism of diminished expectations is pure and just. Them poor sods need their liberal white masters to protect them from themselves!

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52 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Nice statistics. Quote 2019 stats for use in 2018 and then only use partial stats for the rest. Do you actually think that ballot harvesting is a good thing and the SoCal dems have no nefarious motives for promoting it? 

 

The point is that Republicans have been losing ground among voters in Orange County over several years and election cycles because of changes in the population, so there's nothing "surprising" about the Congressional election results.   Historically, mid-term elections frequently result in Congressional losses for the party of the sitting president.

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1 minute ago, SoTier said:

 

The point is that Republicans have been losing ground among voters in Orange County over several years and election cycles because of changes in the population, so there's nothing "surprising" about the Congressional election results.   Historically, mid-term elections frequently result in Congressional losses for the party of the sitting president.

I'm well aware of all of this and wonder why you didn't post this instead of partial stats? Regardless, ballot harvesting coincides nicely with the changing demographics and open border push.  

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"Voting by mail should be made the law because it is keeping Democratic voters from voting............................However, we should not encourage voting by mail when it helps a Republican candidate":

 

https://buffalonews.com/2020/06/15/town-and-school-politics-collide-in-west-seneca/

 

 

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Here in NY I had to request a mail in ballot and sign it , with warning of fine and jail for fraud. The board of elections has my signature on file. Erie County said mail in ballots will not be counted till 8 days after election , hope they don't wait that long in the Nov election

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But have you noticed your mail delivery getting delayed? It’s happening here. Everyone is talking about it.. But I wonder why?

 

Trump-backed postmaster general plans to slow mail deliver

 

Wait. No. No way. The most corrupt administration in our lifetime is F’ing w our mail? No way. 

 

Trump's new postmaster general could corrupt a key institution ahead of Election Day
 

Yea not corrupt. And this is what we can see. What can’t we see?

 

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On 6/11/2020 at 4:12 PM, 3rdnlng said:

Does anyone remember or even know about the change in Orange County, CA in the 2018 elections where the county & surrounding areas went from red to blue in a miraculous manner? Seems like ballot harvesting, a scheme invented by democrats was a key to making that happen. 

Prove it.  

On 6/23/2020 at 10:05 AM, ALF said:

Here in NY I had to request a mail in ballot and sign it , with warning of fine and jail for fraud. The board of elections has my signature on file. Erie County said mail in ballots will not be counted till 8 days after election , hope they don't wait that long in the Nov election

Mail in in NYS is relaxed standards for absentee eligibility.  That’s it.   There’s nothing wrong with it.  Unless you’re a trumper moron who doesn’t know what he’s talking about and likes to repeat delusional trump hoaxes. 

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Mail in voting is LEGAL

 

Fat Man can not move the election. He does not have the power. 

 

Don once again is spreading FAKE news and his collective believes him.  

 

Oh and if the vote isn't settled by late January the House speaker takes power.    Nancy Pelosi

 

 

 

Don is CLUELESS again, but really what's new 

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On 6/13/2020 at 8:52 AM, Troll Toll said:

Seems racist to say that blacks aren’t capable of voting the way everyone else does. 
 

Vote by mail has massive fraud potential. We need integrity in our elections. 

Integrity? Let me guess you vote GOP....the party that pinches voting poll locations, the party that  - the day after the 1964 voting rights act was sent back to congress by the conservative court- had legislation in the states just waiting to gob up minority voting areas, the party the drones on about voting fraud when it is almost non existent?
 

blacks aren’t capable of voting like everyone else .....go to the south and stand in line for hours on end on November 3 and tell us how it’s like everyone else

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28 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Integrity? Let me guess you vote GOP....the party that pinches voting poll locations, the party that  - the day after the 1964 voting rights act was sent back to congress by the conservative court- had legislation in the states just waiting to gob up minority voting areas, the party the drones on about voting fraud when it is almost non existent?
 

blacks aren’t capable of voting like everyone else .....go to the south and stand in line for hours on end on November 3 and tell us how it’s like everyone else

 

What, lines are long after normal work hours?  Wow, what a revelation!

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41 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

What, lines are long after normal work hours?  Wow, what a revelation!

Hoax.  They’re longer in some places (Like urban Georgia) because there are fewer polling places.  By design, of course.  

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If you support mail in voting I think it's fair to say that you might want to reconsider voting for a long time, for the good of the human race.  It a clear sign that your brain is malfunctioning.  

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21 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Link?

 

Yes, link please.  And not some far left website either.

 

7 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:

Lines at Walmart and grocery stores are good tho.

 

And concerts.  And sporting events.  And...

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4 hours ago, TH3 said:

 

blacks aren’t capable of voting like everyone else .....


ouch. This is a pretty shocking point of view, even coming from you, a person that made the statement that Thomas Sowell “is acting white”. 
 

yikes. 

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2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Yes, link please.  And not some far left website either.

 

 

And concerts.  And sporting events.  And...

I'm not going to find it.  But scan the news about the Abrams-Kemp race.  Or, more recently, the nonsense in Lexington, Kentucky. 

2 hours ago, dubs said:

If you support mail in voting I think it's fair to say that you might want to reconsider voting for a long time, for the good of the human race.  It a clear sign that your brain is malfunctioning.  

Do you believe in absentee balloting?

 

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3 hours ago, dubs said:


ouch. This is a pretty shocking point of view, even coming from you, a person that made the statement that Thomas Sowell “is acting white”. 
 

yikes. 

No surprise. The radical left have always been racist. KKK, Jim Crow, etc, etc...

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53 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I'm not going to find it.  But scan the news about the Abrams-Kemp race.  Or, more recently, the nonsense in Lexington, Kentucky. 

Do you believe in absentee balloting?

 

 

Yes.

 

When a person proactively requests a ballot to be used in place of voting in person, that's acceptable.


When ballots are sent out, en mass, to everyone, that essentially asking for anarchy.

 

 

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1 minute ago, dubs said:

 

Yes.

 

When a person proactively requests a ballot to be used in place of voting in person, that's acceptable.


When ballots are sent out, en mass, to everyone, that essentially asking for anarchy.

 

 

 

So then you're good with mail-in voting in NYS.  Because to get the ballot, a voter here has to ask for it.  Hoax debunked and problem solved! I'll put you on the "Thinks Mail in Voting is Acceptable" List!

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1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

 

So then you're good with mail-in voting in NYS.  Because to get the ballot, a voter here has to ask for it.  Hoax debunked and problem solved! I'll put you on the "Thinks Mail in Voting is Acceptable" List!

 

 

I guess you are on the "twist the reply to match my idea" list.

 

Dubs was repeating as we all have,

 

those eligible for ABSENTEE ballots, in NY or elsewhere, should continue to get them.

 

Mail-in ballots for all are a separate and riskier thing............as you know, but pretend not to.

 

 

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

I guess you are on the "twist the reply to match my idea" list.

 

Dubs was repeating as we all have,

 

those eligible for ABSENTEE ballots, in NY or elsewhere, should continue to get them.

 

Mail-in ballots for all are a separate and riskier thing............as you know, but pretend not to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks, it's almost like you have to explain everything down to the atomic particle for these nitwits.  Sometimes I take for granted that there's not a baseline of knowledge.

 

 

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52 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

I guess you are on the "twist the reply to match my idea" list.

 

Dubs was repeating as we all have,

 

those eligible for ABSENTEE ballots, in NY or elsewhere, should continue to get them.

 

Mail-in ballots for all are a separate and riskier thing............as you know, but pretend not to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

...don't we have enough problems EVERY year with voting, a dysfunctional mess?......old machines don't work, new "state of the art (COUGH)" machines don't work, hanging chads, polling places a mess, the "best and the brightest" can't count absentee ballots accurately et al.......throw in good 'ol fraud for good measure.......and now another chapter even riper for fraud?...this should be good.......Kanye in a landslide..............

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1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

I guess you are on the "twist the reply to match my idea" list.

 

Dubs was repeating as we all have,

 

those eligible for ABSENTEE ballots, in NY or elsewhere, should continue to get them.

 

Mail-in ballots for all are a separate and riskier thing............as you know, but pretend not to.

 

 

 

 

 

HOAX!  Mail-in ballots are exactly the same as absentee ballots!  There are just more people eligible to vote absentee by mail than there were before COVID! Try again, fake Christian!

23 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...don't we have enough problems EVERY year with voting, a dysfunctional mess?......old machines don't work, new "state of the art (COUGH)" machines don't work, hanging chads, polling places a mess, the "best and the brightest" can't count absentee ballots accurately et al.......throw in good 'ol fraud for good measure.......and now another chapter even riper for fraud?...this should be good.......Kanye in a landslide..............

Erie County hasn't had one miscount in over 10 years.  And absentee counting is done by scantron and under a number of watchful eyes.  

 

Fraud?  Another right-wing hoax.  My understanding is that there are roughly 31 instances of voter fraud among hundreds of millions of votes cast.  So I think by now we can all agree that mail-in voting is a safe, effective, fair, and most importantly accurate way of conducting this election.  

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

I guess you are on the "twist the reply to match my idea" list.

 

Dubs was repeating as we all have,

 

those eligible for ABSENTEE ballots, in NY or elsewhere, should continue to get them.

 

Mail-in ballots for all are a separate and riskier thing............as you know, but pretend not to.

 

 

 

 

 

Also, I have added you to the "Thinks Mail-In Voting is Acceptable" List! 

1 hour ago, dubs said:

 

Thanks, it's almost like you have to explain everything down to the atomic particle for these nitwits.  Sometimes I take for granted that there's not a baseline of knowledge.

 

 

 

Hoax!  You don't know the difference between absentee and mail-in ballots.  Which is natural because there is none!  Glad to have you on the Mail-In Voting is Good side of things!

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3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

HOAX!  Mail-in ballots are exactly the same as absentee ballots!  There are just more people eligible to vote absentee by mail than there were before COVID! Try again, fake Christian!

Erie County hasn't had one miscount in over 10 years.  And absentee counting is done by scantron and under a number of watchful eyes.  

 

Fraud?  Another right-wing hoax.  My understanding is that there are roughly 31 instances of voter fraud among hundreds of millions of votes cast.  So I think by now we can all agree that mail-in voting is a safe, effective, fair, and most importantly accurate way of conducting this election.  

Also, I have added you to the "Thinks Mail-In Voting is Acceptable" List! 

 

....your laughable defense needs to rest......other than purported Erie County, you have NOT offered a credible list of witnesses...motion to dismiss so granted......

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9 hours ago, TH3 said:

Integrity? Let me guess you vote GOP....the party that pinches voting poll locations, the party that  - the day after the 1964 voting rights act was sent back to congress by the conservative court- had legislation in the states just waiting to gob up minority voting areas, the party the drones on about voting fraud when it is almost non existent?
 

blacks aren’t capable of voting like everyone else .....go to the south and stand in line for hours on end on November 3 and tell us how it’s like everyone else

Yikes...

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