BringBackFergy Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Its Owen Power time!! It will be nice to draft someone with a strong name after 10 consecutive picks that sound like brands of furniture or hot breakfast cereal. Did we finally win something? The lottery? We may need a banner: “NHL Draft Lottery Winner 2019, 2021 Runner Up 2016” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 As a Bills/Islanders fan I'm happy to see the Sabres get the first pick and the Rangers get the 15th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I didn’t even watch the lottery draw. Just saw that Buffalo won. I guess I’m glad they won it but I can’t say that I’m really excited or anything. This feels nothing like when we won the Dahlin draft lottery. There’s no player I’m overly excited about in this draft. It’s nice to have 1st pick of any player we want but I don’t exactly have a ton of faith in this scouting staff to get the pick right, and now it’s just more embarrassing if they miss. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 This team gets the first pick and this year's draft isn't any good. So even trying to trade the pick b.c this team needs to win now will be hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 As a Bills/Isles fan I say congrats to the Sabres and their fans on getting the #1 pick. Hopefully they can turn it around. Everyone knows Buffalo is a great sports market. Even though it is known mostly for being a football mad city with the Bills and Bills Mafia, Buffalo is probably one of the strongest markets in the US for hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 🤢🤮 shill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Matty Beniers suffered a nasty looking ankle injury this morning at the IIHF world tourney and I wonder if that makes their choice of who to draft first overall any easier. Tough break for the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 59 minutes ago, K-9 said: Tough break for the kid. If it makes the Sabres look the other way, its a great stroke of luck for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 25 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: If it makes the Sabres look the other way, its a great stroke of luck for him Sad that it’s come to this: players deliberately sustaining serious injury to avoid being drafted by the Sabres. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 hours ago, K-9 said: Matty Beniers suffered a nasty looking ankle injury this morning at the IIHF world tourney and I wonder if that makes their choice of who to draft first overall any easier. Tough break for the kid. Whomever they drafted likely not be on the Sabres next year anyways, sure the injury hurts his status but I wouldn't use it as a reason not to draft the kid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 If they trade Eichel for a pile of crap that really, truly might be the last straw for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 6 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: If they trade Eichel for a pile of crap that really, truly might be the last straw for me. Lol after everything they have done that would be the last straw. This team is screwed b.c they will never get good value for Eichel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 not that I put much faith in Jeremy White’s “super secret Sabres source”, but I figured I’d share it anyway. this has seemed like the most likely outcome all along. I’m ok with it. I stil” would have preferred a veteran coach like Boudreau or Gallant but I’d take Granato over another inexperienced NHL coach (like some of the college coaches they interviewed) or David Quinn (who was also rumored to be in the mix). Still holding out hope that they surround Granato with at least 1 experienced coach (my ideal scenario would be someone like Boudreau as an associate head coach), but I’m guessing it’ll probably be guys like Dan Girardi and Matt Ellis, or maybe some other lesser known coach Granato has worked with over the years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 I almost wonder if Granato is the kind of guy who should be coaching the Amerks. Sure, he got a lot more out of players by using him in better situations, but I feel like that's more of a strike against Krueger than it is a positive for Granato. Any good head coach should be able to know to put players in those better, more appropriate situations. Yes, we know Granato can get more out of these guys, but just how much can he get and how long can it last? I really want to see a more seasoned NHL head coach behind that bench, especially after the last two hires. With Granato, I worry that they're setting setting the ceiling a bit too low. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: not that I put much faith in Jeremy White’s “super secret Sabres source”, but I figured I’d share it anyway. this has seemed like the most likely outcome all along. I’m ok with it. I stil” would have preferred a veteran coach like Boudreau or Gallant but I’d take Granato over another inexperienced NHL coach (like some of the college coaches they interviewed) or David Quinn (who was also rumored to be in the mix). Still holding out hope that they surround Granato with at least 1 experienced coach (my ideal scenario would be someone like Boudreau as an associate head coach), but I’m guessing it’ll probably be guys like Dan Girardi and Matt Ellis, or maybe some other lesser known coach Granato has worked with over the years. Yeah, it will be Granato’s call on his assistant coaches. The front office foisting an “experienced” coach upon him is a recipe for disaster, imo. This just may be Granato’s time to be at the wheel. He’s paid his dues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 This isn’t going to end well for the Sabres if they’ve convinced themselves that they need to move on from Eichel now, at his lowest value ever, and set some stupid internal deadline to do it. I know all the extenuating circumstances but I still wish they would just keep Eichel until they get proper value in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Another nail in Eichel's coffin... This f-ing team is going to trade him, lose the trade, get a little bit worse, and erase an entire season of losing for the sake of getting Jack Eichel. Around and around we go in circles. We are right where the Bills were for YEARS with Ralph when he got old. Until Pegula sells, expect nothing from the Sabres. Nothing! https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/sabres/friedman-i-think-sabres-dont-want-eichel-back-they-want-to-move-on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: This isn’t going to end well for the Sabres if they’ve convinced themselves that they need to move on from Eichel now, at his lowest value ever, and set some stupid internal deadline to do it. I know all the extenuating circumstances but I still wish they would just keep Eichel until they get proper value in return. Regardless, he must be traded before his NMC kicks in next year, so there is a countdown in effect. But there’s no hurry at this particular juncture. Interested teams are gonna need to do their own due diligence on his neck issues before committing that kind of time and money to Eichel, so I don’t see a fast timeline, anyway. I can’t blame the Sabres for wanting to get rid of a dishonest malcontent, though. And I’m convinced these off season theatrics were deliberately orchestrated by Eichel and his agent to deliberately slow down the trade process and extend it until that NMC takes effect and they have control over where he ends up playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shrader Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 33 minutes ago, K-9 said: Regardless, he must be traded before his NMC kicks in next year, so there is a countdown in effect. But there’s no hurry at this particular juncture. Interested teams are gonna need to do their own due diligence on his neck issues before committing that kind of time and money to Eichel, so I don’t see a fast timeline, anyway. I can’t blame the Sabres for wanting to get rid of a dishonest malcontent, though. And I’m convinced these off season theatrics were deliberately orchestrated by Eichel and his agent to deliberately slow down the trade process and extend it until that NMC takes effect and they have control over where he ends up playing. And wanting to move on does not mean they're going to rush to make it happen. This isn't the same GM who made the O'Reilly deal and also got other sub-par returns like in the Kane deal. We really don't have any history to go on for predicting Adams trades. -Hall deal with the NMC -Expiring deals at the deadline (Staal, Montour, Johansson) -Johansson for Staal Those are all in a completely different ballpark and they give me absolutely no idea of where he might go with Eichel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 3 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: This isn’t going to end well for the Sabres if they’ve convinced themselves that they need to move on from Eichel now, at his lowest value ever, and set some stupid internal deadline to do it. I know all the extenuating circumstances but I still wish they would just keep Eichel until they get proper value in return. You will never get proper value... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 very nice first coaching hire for Chris Drury. Not surprised. Why would any coach with other options come here right now? I am actually surprised that Bruce Boudreau wants to coach here. I just wish Buffalo had interest in hiring him. I wonder if Capuano told them to deny the interview? Either way, Ottawa doing us a favor here 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: very nice first coaching hire for Chris Drury. Not surprised. Why would any coach with other options come here right now? I am actually surprised that Bruce Boudreau wants to coach here. I just wish Buffalo had interest in hiring him. I wonder if Capuano told them to deny the interview? Either way, Ottawa doing us a favor here 😂 Isles fan here. The Sabres would be wise to say no to Capuano. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) @Greg S now this one I approve of! Very intrigued by Lane Lambert, and he’s certainly put in his dues. Edited June 15, 2021 by BillsFan4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) Edited June 15, 2021 by BillsFan4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 5 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: Sweet...two top end picks in an otherwise average draft....has me pumped 😒 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 The Part on Eichel: Quote Nobody said the Stanley Cup playoffs had to be over before Jack Eichel potentially gets moved. And while I’m not saying the star center will get traded before the end of the playoffs, what I’m hearing is that conversations between the Buffalo Sabres and other interested teams are getting more intense and serious. So read into that what you will. The next few weeks could be intriguing on that front. And I would imagine Sabres GM Kevyn Adams would be counting on a first-round pick to be used the night of July 23 in this year’s draft in any package so the clock indeed is ticking. Eichel, 24, has five years and $50 million left on his contract but there’s no question there are teams — at a certain price — who believe a change of scenery will reset his career. Teams I believe make sense: Los Angeles, Minnesota, Anaheim, Columbus, Philadelphia and the Rangers, among others. The Kings want to make a splashy move for a top-6 forward, the Wild could use another top center, and the Jackets (who have three first-round picks this year) of course really, really need a No. 1 center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 16 hours ago, zevo said: Sweet...two top end picks in an otherwise average draft....has me pumped 😒 with no scouting staff or much of a front office, after an uncertain season where some amateur leagues didnt even play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 I didn't think the Sabres could ruin hope any worse but all the best players want out, Claude Gallant is now coach of the Rangers (would have been perfect here) and of course the draft has no elite stars. So great idea to get more 1st round draft picks for Sam, Jack and Risto Kevon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) I just hope they get a proper return. For both. But I’m nervous this is going to suck for us Buffalo fans... I don’t really like this year’s draft class either. 2022 and 2023 both look much better, especially at the top. This isn’t the year I’d be stockpiling picks. Maybe I’d feel better about Buffalo collecting picks in what looks like a weak draft class if they had a better track record in the draft. But they’ve been pretty poor at drafting + developing (and that’s when they had a full scouting dept.) and I’m seeing teams I consider to be better than Buffalo at drafting who don’t seem sold on this draft. yeah the Sabres had their scout watch lots of YouTube highlight clips. 😂😢 Edited June 17, 2021 by BillsFan4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Obviously not the same thing, but I see the Eichel move akin to the Bills moving on from Watkins. Eichel is loved by fans, but what have the Sabres been able to do with him? What have they won with him in town? If they need to move the guy to try and restart with a better culture than I am all for it. Need more players with Cozens' attitude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Jack Eichel is: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: I just hope they get a proper return. For both. But I’m nervous this is going to suck for us Buffalo fans... I don’t really like this year’s draft class either. 2022 and 2023 both look much better, especially at the top. This isn’t the year I’d be stockpiling picks. Maybe I’d feel better about Buffalo collecting picks in what looks like a weak draft class if they had a better track record in the draft. But they’ve been pretty poor at drafting + developing (and that’s when they had a full scouting dept.) and I’m seeing teams I consider to be better than Buffalo at drafting who don’t seem sold on this draft. yeah the Sabres had their scout watch lots of YouTube highlight clips. 😂😢 I didn’t get to hear the segment. Were there any reasons offered as to why they feel they know this class better or have a scouting edge over other teams? To me this is proactively communicating that the Eichel return is going to be draft capital heavy, which I doubt many will be thrilled with. Edited June 17, 2021 by Rockpile233 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rockpile233 said: I didn’t get to hear the segment. Were there any reasons offered as to why they feel they know this class better or have a scouting edge over other teams? To me this is proactively communicating that the Eichel return is going to be draft capital heavy, which I doubt many will be thrilled with. It starts right around 6:50. But the tweet pretty much summed it up. edit: found this - Edited June 17, 2021 by BillsFan4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) damn. Prayers for Robert. https://twitter.com/buffalovogl/status/1406009053613015044?s=21 🙏🙏 Edited June 18, 2021 by BillsFan4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 For those who missed it here are highlights from last night Isles-Lightning game.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Would you take Seth Jones and 5th overall pick from CBJ for eichel? Would be a bad situation for eichel, another bad, Rebuilding team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Would you take Seth Jones and 5th overall pick from CBJ for eichel? Would be a bad situation for eichel, another bad, Rebuilding team They need 2 first round picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, TBBills said: They need 2 first round picks. I think the neck issue could limit return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think the neck issue could limit return I know, this is the least exciting trade to me just b.c I know they will never get good value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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