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11 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I think we do, the Bills need more playmaking, more speed on the field.

 

Yeldon didn’t play last year because Beane said the Bills wanted the downhill thumping of Gore on the field.

 

Freeman has battled concussions, so I automatically rule him out, with Lamar Miller people were always waiting for a breakout that never happened, Hyde and Crowell have put up the best numbers recently.

 

But why pay them, when a 3rd Rounder like Singletary comes in, immediately takes LeSean McCoy‘s job and is the starter going forward? 
 

Draft another guy who is fresh, 22 years old, and ready to make plays instead of slow plodders who have peaked. Their best football is in front of them, so no need to hope for a fountain of youth.

 

The Bills model of guys like Tolbert, Ivory, Gore, holds back better playmakers. 

 

 I’d avoid 28-30 year old running backs like the plague.

 

 

 

 

There is a separate thread on how to make your own protective mask, if you need it. 

 

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I like the idea of fresh legs. I like the idea of a threat with breakaway speed. I also like the idea of a bruiser to pair with Singletary to mix things up and beat down a tired defense to close a game or get the tough 3rd and 2. I also like the idea of a savvy vet who can pick up a blitz and be counted on not to fumble.

 

Mostly, I like the idea of a competent FO who can figure all of this out for us and (hopefully) make all the right calls! 

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24 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I like Yeldon, and I think the staff does too.  They have been quite complimentary to him and what he did when given chances last year.  I think he could be a good compliment to Yeldon in the same way any of those other FA's you listed would be as I expect Devin to still get the lion shares of the carries.  Im not sure any of those guys listed have much more to offer than Yeldon does who already knows our offense.  

 

So I think pepper in some fresh legs in the draft (some good ones will be there in rounds 2-5 this year IMO) and let Devin take the lead role fully with Yeldon backing him up until the rookie proves he can take over the backup duties full time (pass pro will be the key factor on that).  

 

That being said, I wouldn't hate a signing of any of those guys above either.  Just like the idea of getting some fresh legs next to Devin as well to form a formidable one-two punch for years to come.  And I think this is a good draft to do it as we dont have a lot of holes and the RB depth is nice this year in the mid rounds.

I don’t like Yeldon. He couldn’t break through last year and him getting significant carries this year is a failure. 

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It's highly doubtful any FA RBs sign before the draft.  Best guess is that on Monday after the draft, Hyde goes to the team that didn't get their guy over the weekend.  

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3 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

Yep.  Some teams reject will do just fine (sic).  We need to get somebody who other teams are scared of.

 

That guy's name is Devin Singletary. We need a backup running back.

 

It's getting pretty ridiculous with what fans are expecting out of a backup player. No, we don't need to spend a high draft pick and no, we don't need to bring in a starting caliber running back. We need a change of pace back.

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1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

There is a separate thread on how to make your own protective mask, if you need it. 

 

:)

 

I like the idea of fresh legs. I like the idea of a threat with breakaway speed. I also like the idea of a bruiser to pair with Singletary to mix things up and beat down a tired defense to close a game or get the tough 3rd and 2. I also like the idea of a savvy vet who can pick up a blitz and be counted on not to fumble.

 

Mostly, I like the idea of a competent FO who can figure all of this out for us and (hopefully) make all the right calls! 

IMO I don’t need a bruiser as a change of pace to Singletary. In fact, if you gave me another mid-round back that could make people miss and be a threat out of the backfield, that’s better than a one dimensional straight forward, plow ahead runner with no shake. 
 

Give me another 5’7” 200 pounder like Singletary. As long as they’re a playmaker. 

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1 hour ago, FireChans said:

I don’t like Yeldon. He couldn’t break through last year and him getting significant carries this year is a failure. 


He was pretty productive when given chances.  Saying he “couldn’t” break through last year isnt really fair when he had a future HOF who was role model and leader along side a productive rookie in front of him.

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It’s hard to say if I’d rather have a FA or draft one. It completely depends on the other options available at our pick. If we can get a day one upgrade at CB2 like Diggs or an instant upgrade along the o line, or even a 1st rd WR that falls like shenault , then I’d take that and get a FA RB. 
 


 

 

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1 hour ago, FireChans said:

My answer is yes.

 

Yeah I’m not sure you’re necessarily going to find that unless we grab one of the top guys.

I’m kind of expecting them to grab one of the top guys. It’s the last glaring hole on the roster and there are 5 RBs that will go between picks 20 and the end of round 2. 

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19 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:


He was pretty productive when given chances.  Saying he “couldn’t” break through last year isnt really fair when he had a future HOF who was role model and leader along side a productive rookie in front of him.

He touched the ball 30 times last year. Not sure how productive anyone is with 30 touches.

 

16 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’m kind of expecting them to grab one of the top guys. It’s the last glaring hole on the roster and there are 5 RBs that will go between picks 20 and the end of round 2. 

That’s a different story. Walking away with Dobbins etc I get.

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36 minutes ago, MJS said:

That guy's name is Devin Singletary. We need a backup running back.

 

It's getting pretty ridiculous with what fans are expecting out of a backup player. No, we don't need to spend a high draft pick and no, we don't need to bring in a starting caliber running back. We need a change of pace back.

 

Singletary got hurt last season in Week 2 after a grand total of 10 rushing attempts and after being targeted in the passing game 6 times.  So in Week 2 after a grand total of 16 touches on the season Singletary pulled his hammy and was out for 4 weeks including our home game against the Patriots, which was an important game that we lost by one score.  We had no one in the backfield that the Pats defense had to worry about in that game.  Gore had a good game vs the Pats, but our offense only scored 10 points.  Gore is a grinder but he was not a dynamic back by any measure last year.  We missed Singletary a lot in that game.  Why allow yourself to be put in that situation again?  

 

The era of the Bell Cow back is over.  Smart teams have a 1A and 1b RB.   Drafting an elite RB that who will actually get on the field this year and be there to spell Singletary and compliment him is more valuable to this team than a backup DB or lineman who is probably only going to be depth this year.

 

We may disagree on this, but that's how I see it.

 

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1 hour ago, FireChans said:

I don’t like Yeldon. He couldn’t break through last year and him getting significant carries this year is a failure. 

Well, Kelly Skipper and rhe Organization loves him, so he will be here for a while...

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12 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

 

Singletary got hurt last season in Week 2 after a grand total of 10 rushing attempts and after being targeted in the passing game 6 times.  So in Week 2 after a grand total of 16 touches on the season Singletary pulled his hammy and was out for 4 weeks including our home game against the Patriots, which was an important game that we lost by one score.  We had no one in the backfield that the Pats defense had to worry about in that game.  Gore had a good game vs the Pats, but our offense only scored 10 points.  Gore is a grinder but he was not a dynamic back by any measure last year.  We missed Singletary a lot in that game.  Why allow yourself to be put in that situation again?  

 

The era of the Bell Cow back is over.  Smart teams have a 1A and 1b RB.   Drafting an elite RB that who will actually get on the field this year and be there to spell Singletary and compliment him is more valuable to this team than a backup DB or lineman who is probably only going to be depth this year.

 

We may disagree on this, but that's how I see it.

 

 

There is ZERO question that we need another RB we can win games with. Another guy who can help in every game, and carry the load when needed. 

 

 

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It's pretty obvious that we are heading into the draft hoping to take someone and the   fall back  is a FA.

 

We aren't starting  the season  with Singletary ,  Yeldon  and T Jones at running back . 

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3 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Lamar is coming off of a torn ACL. There’s a reason Houston let him go and decided they would rather have David Johnson over him lol

I'm well aware of that which is why he will be available on a dirt cheap no commitment deal.  If he comes in and plays well he earns more money somewhere else, if he comes in and is done he doesn't make the roster and we lose nothing.

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5 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

Lamar is coming off of a torn ACL. There’s a reason Houston let him go and decided they would rather have David Johnson over him lol

Yeah, but they also aren't in a rush to sign Hyde who went over 1k at a 4.4 clip. He'd be my choice to tandem with Motor and Yeldon. That's a nice trio right there.

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5 hours ago, ProcessAccepted said:

 

I think it's the fumbles that held him back. I was always worried the few times he had the ball. He has talent, I think he was trying too hard and those couple of fumbles were held against him. 


not to beat a dead horse but his fumble rate is 1.2%. For reference Emmitt Smith fumble rate is 1.3%. Not that Yeldon is Emmitt, but he’s not fumbling all that much. He’s also never fumbled more than twice in a season. 
 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YeldT.00.htm

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6 hours ago, GG said:

It's highly doubtful any FA RBs sign before the draft.  Best guess is that on Monday after the draft, Hyde goes to the team that didn't get their guy over the weekend.  

 

 

It's really not doubtful at all. Last year Beane signed Yeldon three days before the draft.

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