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32 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

Who cares?  You k ow what matters?  That he played for one of the top programs in the country and played on the biggest stage. He also produced in the big games. Just stop with these workout numbers. The guy catches a clean ball and he balls out when it matters. 

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19 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

Who cares?  You k ow what matters?  That he played for one of the top programs in the country and played on the biggest stage. He also produced in the big games. Just stop with these workout numbers. The guy catches a clean ball and he balls out when it matters. 


well certainly some people care, or else they wouldn’t test these things. The fact that his workout was bad and now you’re mad doesn’t change anything. 

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30 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:


well certainly some people care, or else they wouldn’t test these things. The fact that his workout was bad and now you’re mad doesn’t change anything. 

Haha. I’m not mad at all. Nice try. Remind me again what DeAndre Hopkins did at his pre draft workout. Bottom line is you either have it or you don’t. Higgins shows up big when it matters. No one can debate that. 

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5 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

Haha. I’m not mad at all. Nice try. Remind me again what DeAndre Hopkins did at his pre draft workout. Bottom line is you either have it or you don’t. Higgins shows up big when it matters. No one can debate that. 


Who’s saying that he doesn’t have “it” as you eloquently put it? All people seem to be saying in response to these workout numbers is he may have hurt his draft position, not that he’s lost “it.” And you are the one jumping on these workout results with “stop with this already” as though these numbers aren’t widely reported and discussed for all the top draft prospects. I’m guessing if Tee’s numbers were great you wouldn’t be complaining.

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2 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:


Who’s saying that he doesn’t have “it” as you eloquently put it? All people seem to be saying in response to these workout numbers is he may have hurt his draft position, not that he’s lost “it.” And you are the one jumping on these workout results with “stop with this already” as though these numbers aren’t widely reported and discussed for all the top draft prospects. I’m guessing if Tee’s numbers were great you wouldn’t be complaining.

Tee’s numbers are fine for a player his size. If anything he helped himself. Your condescending remarks don’t make you more intelligent than others. They are just opinions like mine. Relax dude...

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1 hour ago, whorlnut said:

Tee’s numbers are fine for a player his size. If anything he helped himself. Your condescending remarks don’t make you more intelligent than others. They are just opinions like mine. Relax dude...


who condescended whom first? Your response, whinging about how these numbers don’t matter and we should all just “stop it” because YOU definitely know that Higgins has IT seems pretty condescending. Take your own advice chief and relax.

 

and to say he helped himself? Lol come on man. Now I know you’re just a fanboy who’s caught the feels today because that workout was bad. Carry on.

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45 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said:

looking more like a round 2 guy  Not a great 40 time and a  31" vertical jump  negates his height advantage


Height advantage seemed to work out just fine on the football field.

Also, his second 40 time was clocked at an unofficial 4.43, so there's that.

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So Jeudy and Lamb test nearly the same as Higgins, yet that doesn't matter. We dont really care about their testing cause of their play on the field.

 

Higgins has balled out for three years now, but we are nervous about his ten years splits... perfect

10 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:


who condescended whom first? Your response, whinging about how these numbers don’t matter and we should all just “stop it” because YOU definitely know that Higgins has IT seems pretty condescending. Take your own advice chief and relax.

 

and to say he helped himself? Lol come on man. Now I know you’re just a fanboy who’s caught the feels today because that workout was bad. Carry on.

You draft players based on workouts, the rest of the world will draft players based o their ability in pads... nothing to see here.

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13 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

So Jeudy and Lamb test nearly the same as Higgins, yet that doesn't matter. We dont really care about their testing cause of their play on the field.

 

Higgins has balled out for three years now, but we are nervous about his ten years splits... perfect

You draft players based on workouts, the rest of the world will draft players based o their ability in pads... nothing to see here.


damn i thought rex and his clemson crew were long gone. This is hilarious. Anyways you keep that hype train going bro. 
 

Any other year. I say draft tee higgins at 21 and run to the bank. This year? Nah Tee is a early to mid 2nd rounder at best.

 

edit: and i am willing to bet on that prediction. Swear to god there’s more clemson fans than bills fans here. Annoying.

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5 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:


damn i thought rex and his clemson crew were long gone. This is hilarious. Anyways you keep that hype train going bro. 
 

Any other year. I say draft tee higgins at 21 and run to the bank. This year? Nah Tee is a mid 2nd rounder at best.

Hype train? Rex and his Clemson crew? What is this amatuer hour? Working on your tight five for open mic night?

 

I've admitted multiple times that Higgins is not as high on my list as other WRs. I'm just pointing out the kid is a vastly better spec than some are making him out to be.

 

Your logic dictates you're ready to take Isaiha Hodgins over Jeudy because Hodgins put up a 4.12 20 yard shuttle over Jeudy's 4.53

 

Maybe take Quez Watkins who ran a 4.35 over Lamb who ran a 4.5

 

As far as taking Higgins at 22, I wouldn't be overly thrilled, but there is absolutely a case to be made as to why he would be worth taking there.

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1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said:


damn i thought rex and his clemson crew were long gone. This is hilarious. Anyways you keep that hype train going bro. 
 

Any other year. I say draft tee higgins at 21 and run to the bank. This year? Nah Tee is a early to mid 2nd rounder at best.

 

edit: and i am willing to bet on that prediction. Swear to god there’s more clemson fans than bills fans here. Annoying.


Take a breath.     Certified meltdown because Tee Higgins makes plays ??

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1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said:


damn i thought rex and his clemson crew were long gone. This is hilarious. Anyways you keep that hype train going bro. 
 

Any other year. I say draft tee higgins at 21 and run to the bank. This year? Nah Tee is a early to mid 2nd rounder at best.

 

edit: and i am willing to bet on that prediction. Swear to god there’s more clemson fans than bills fans here. Annoying.

Are you saying that someone has to be a fan of a college program to make balanced or positive comments about one of their players? Do you think I’m a clemson fan? 

 

I only know of one on this site and he only posts in the college forum. 

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8 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:


Take a breath.     Certified meltdown because Tee Higgins makes plays ??


no doubt. Hopefully his slow a** is making plays for someone besides the bills. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ not a fan sorry. I’d rather have someone like reagor there. No one’s melting down here except fair weather clemson fans like you apparently. 

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1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said:


no doubt. Hopefully his slow a** is making plays for someone besides the bills. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ not a fan sorry. I’d rather have someone like reagor there. No one’s melting down here except fair weather clemson fans like you apparently. 


Stage 4 meltdown ???

 

 

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Are you saying that someone has to be a fan of a college program to make balanced or positive comments about one of their players? Do you think I’m a clemson fan? 

 

I only know of one on this site and he only posts in the college forum. 


i have no idea if you are a clemson fan or not i wasn’t talking to you or about you yolo. Considering you’re “inohio” i doubt you are. Not sure why you’re coming at me.

 

but since you chimed in hell yes there are people here with college biases and that’s fine. I went to BC I love milano; I even like matt ryan. Doesnt mean someone poopooing a bad workout doesn’t deserve some clapback 

1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said:


Stage 4 meltdown ???

 

 

Stage 5 gaslighting because the idiot has nothing else to say

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6 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:


i have no idea if you are a clemson fan or not i wasn’t talking to you or about you yolo. Considering you’re “inohio” i doubt you are. Not sure why you’re coming at me.

 

but since you chimed in hell yes there are people here with college biases and that’s fine. I went to BC I love milano; I even like matt ryan. Doesnt mean someone poopooing a bad workout doesn’t deserve some clapback 

Stage 5 gaslighting because the idiot has nothing else to say

I didn’t “come at you” - I asked you a question ....Because you said Swear to god there’s more clemson fans than bills fans here. Annoying.

 

what is that based on?

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Just now, SoCal Deek said:

For weeks we heard that the Bills were FOR SURE picking the WR from Colorado.....now what? Where did he go?

No where. He’s projected to go in the 2nd I think. He did have surgery though, which i think will actually help him. 

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Just now, JoPoy88 said:

 He’s hurt again

Same injury, not hurt “again”. He decided to have Post-combine surgery. 

Just now, CNYfan said:

I still prefer Shenault to Higgins.   Indeed, "for sure"?   I didn't hear that.

He was mocked to them a few times early on, but nothing that has linked him to the team 

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Just now, CNYfan said:

I still prefer Shenault to Higgins.   Indeed, "for sure"?   I didn't hear that.

Look at that...I was able to resurrect the kid with a single question! I’d actually never heard of him until the name started popping up on here in February.

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Just now, YoloinOhio said:

I didn’t “come at you” - I asked you a question ....Because you said Swear to god there’s more clemson fans than bills fans here. Annoying.


i do think there a lot of fair weather clemson fans around here, simply because they’ve become such a powerhouse in the last 5 years plus the Bills’ history in drafting them. I might be wrong that’s just the impression I get. 

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2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:


i do think there a lot of fair weather clemson fans around here, simply because they’ve become such a powerhouse in the last 5 years plus the Bills’ history in drafting them. I might be wrong that’s just the impression I get. 

Interesting - I have to say, I haven’t noticed that at all. There may be “fans” of certain Clemson players, when it comes to draft prospects, which is completely different and makes complete sense given the talent they both recruit and develop at a high level. 

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3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Same injury, not hurt “again”. He decided to have Post-combine surgery. 

He was mocked to them a few times early on, but nothing that has linked him to the team 


ok, shenault is not hurt “again;” he’s “still” hurt. I’d still rather have him than higgins, fwiw.

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2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:


ok, shenault is not hurt “again;” he’s “still” hurt. I’d still rather have him than higgins, fwiw.

So I’m not trying to nitpick, at all.... but the fact he chose to do the core muscle surgery means at least in theory that he’s actually not going to still be hurt. If he hadn’t done it, he would be heading into his rookie year with the same issue he dealt with all last year. So technically not still hurt but will have some recovery time. 

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Interesting - I have to say, I haven’t noticed that at all. There may be “fans” of certain Clemson players, when it comes to draft prospects, which is completely different and makes complete sense given the talent they both recruit and develop at a high level. 


clemson players are all very high level obviously, even without playing against top (tippity top) level competition. ACC vs SEC shouldn’t be ignored. But they’re a top program no matter what. I was talking to a specific guy BSing about a specific guy, i.e. tee higgins. Look the guy has a bad workout and people are fans of the guy are going go ahead defend him. I personally think the team I root for would be making a huge mistake picking him, that’s all. And i could be wrong! The WR class is so deep this year I have no idea who’s going to come out of it as the best pro 2-3 years down the line. 

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Tee Higgins
I believe I have the official numbers. 4.58 and 4.59 were his runs. 1.66 and 1.69 were his 10-yard splits.

 

Under 4.6 is good I guess, but those 10 yard splits are bad. 

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8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

So I’m not trying to nitpick, at all.... but the fact he chose to do the core muscle surgery means at least in theory that he’s actually not going to still be hurt. If he hadn’t done it, he would be heading into his rookie year with the same issue he dealt with all last year. So technically not still hurt but will have some recovery time. 


sort of like that guy from clemson we drafted that wasn’t “re-hurt” but “still hurt” that had to have his shoulder cleaned out finally and missed a lot of his rookie year.

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9 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

tee higgins better work on his vert if he wants to win me over. guy probably cant even dunk on the goal post or even jump into the stands if he scores a td.

 

It's crazy, isnt it? Tied for the most TDs in Clemson history for a WR. Clearly that vertical hindered his production. 

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4 minutes ago, DJB said:

Tee Higgins
I believe I have the official numbers. 4.58 and 4.59 were his runs. 1.66 and 1.69 were his 10-yard splits.

 

Under 4.6 is good I guess, but those 10 yard splits are bad. 

Careful now, numbers mean nothing ?

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