The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, mattynh said:

Do you have your toilet paper stash?

Yup! Confederate flag toilet paper is the best! 

[Bob in Mich]

How did the Dems and our liberal media get Italy to shut down over this overblown virus story?  Is that Soros or the Clinton's?  Man, those MF'ers are powerful!!

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, Bob in Mich said:

How did the Dems and our liberal media get Italy to shut down over this overblown virus story?  Is that Soros or the Clinton's?  Man, those MF'ers are powerful!!

Dishonest as ever, Bob. Never stop making an ass out of yourself. It’s your brand. 

[KRC]

27 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Call the Governor !..............Get the National Guard in there !!!

 

 

PHOTOS: After Columbia canceled classes over COVID-19, students gathered in the middle of campus to catch some sun

 

On Monday, Columbia University canceled classes after someone involved with the school was quarantined after being exposed to the COVID-19 virus:

            

 

 

Great. The full cost of attending the schools is about $70,000 per year and they’re going to switch to online education? Will they be issuing refunds?

 

 

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So, they cancel classes to prevent people from grouping together and spreading the virus, and the students decide to use that opportunity to group together independently. 

[Foxx]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Are they bringing the hand sanitizer ?

 

 

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[US Egg]

2 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

How did the Dems and our liberal media get Italy to shut down over this overblown virus story?  Is that Soros or the Clinton's?  Man, those MF'ers are powerful!!

Maybe this would help you understand Italy's situation....or maybe not.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/4b170d34-40f9-11e9-b896-fe36ec32aece

 

"China has swooped on strategic assets such as Italy’s power grid, high-tech manufacturers and luxury brands. More than 600 Italian companies have received some kind of Chinese investment for a total value of €13.7bn since 2000, according to the Italy-China Foundation.investment for a total value of €13.7bn since 2000, according to the Italy-China Foundation."

 

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-01/22/c_138725008.htm

 

"The provisional trend of airport arrivals from China in the first 11 months of 2019 grew by 16 percent on an annual basis, according to a short report by the Italian Tourism Observatory."

[Hardhatharry]

6 minutes ago, KRC said:

 

So, they cancel classes to prevent people from grouping together and spreading the virus, and the students decide to use that opportunity to group together independently. 

Most people are stupid. No different than in Iran where they had people licking shrines to "defy" coronavirus likes virus cares about any of thatshit.

Edited March 10, 2020 by Hardhatharry

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Bob in Mich]

4 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

Maybe this would help you understand Italy's situation....or maybe not.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/4b170d34-40f9-11e9-b896-fe36ec32aece

 

"China has swooped on strategic assets such as Italy’s power grid, high-tech manufacturers and luxury brands. More than 600 Italian companies have received some kind of Chinese investment for a total value of €13.7bn since 2000, according to the Italy-China Foundation.investment for a total value of €13.7bn since 2000, according to the Italy-China Foundation."

 

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-01/22/c_138725008.htm

 

"The provisional trend of airport arrivals from China in the first 11 months of 2019 grew by 16 percent on an annual basis, according to a short report by the Italian Tourism Observatory."

 

So, their economic closeness to China has led to the outbreak being worse in Italy than in many other countries.  I guess that was your point?  OK, seems reasonable

 

The point I was making was that the Dems and the US media are not impacting Italian decisions to take radical containment measures.  The Dems and the media are not hyping this danger and this story simply to hurt Trump, as is being implied by several posters.  The danger is very real and if the outbreak gets out of control here, we will all know people that will die from this virus this year.  

 

Doing the math, if half the population (165 million) of the US gets this over the next year or so and even if the death rate falls from 2-3% down to 0.5%, over 800,000 Americans would pass on.  Hopefully we can contain it better than that and we can develop some effective treatments, but certainly this corona virus is worth pulling the alarm

[Deranged Rhino]

3 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

So, their economic closeness to China has led to the outbreak being worse in Italy than in many other countries.  I guess that was your point?  OK, seems reasonable

 

The point I was making was that the Dems and the US media are not impacting Italian decisions to take radical containment measures.  The Dems and the media are not hyping this danger and this story simply to hurt Trump, as is being implied by several posters.  The danger is very real and if the outbreak gets out of control here, we will all know people that will die from this virus this year.  

 

Doing the math, if half the population (165 million) of the US gets this over the next year or so and even if the death rate falls from 2-3% down to 0.5%, over 800,000 Americans would pass on.  Hopefully we can contain it better than that and we can develop some effective treatments, but certainly this corona virus is worth pulling the alarm

 

Still being dishonest. 

 

Totally on brand for Low IQ Bob.

[US Egg]

35 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

The Dems and the media are not hyping this danger and this story simply to hurt Trump

Wow !?!?

 

Sorry to have bothered you. It won't happen again

[Foxx]

43 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said:

 

So, their economic closeness to China has led to the outbreak being worse in Italy than in many other countries.  I guess that was your point?  OK, seems reasonable

 

The point I was making was that the Dems and the US media are not impacting Italian decisions to take radical containment measures.  The Dems and the media are not hyping this danger and this story simply to hurt Trump, as is being implied by several posters.  The danger is very real and if the outbreak gets out of control here, we will all know people that will die from this virus this year.  

 

Doing the math, if half the population (165 million) of the US gets this over the next year or so and even if the death rate falls from 2-3% down to 0.5%, over 800,000 Americans would pass on.  Hopefully we can contain it better than that and we can develop some effective treatments, but certainly this corona virus is worth pulling the alarm

if the death rate for all coronavirus infections is .5% it would be lower than the deaths from the flu, of which we have vaccines for. 

 

come on, Bob. do not fall prey to the fear mongering.

 

 

3 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

Wow !?!?

 

Sorry to have bothered you. It won't happen again

just wanted to point out that you wanted to quote Bob and not DR.

Edited March 10, 2020 by Foxx

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

 

 

....rationing toilet paper.......at least my Depends didn't make their list..................

Wegmans announces limits on cleaning products, toilet paper

 

WHEC TV

Updated: March 10, 2020 03:22 PM
Created: March 10, 2020 03:18 PM

 

(WHEC) — Wegmans is limiting the purchase of more personal care and cleaning items.

 

With people across the country reporting shortages of things like disinfectant wipes and toilet paper, including one Bishop Kearney graduate who is now living in King County, Washington, Wegmans says it’s limiting the purchase of certain items to ensure they’re available for all customers.

 

The grocery chain has already limited the purchase of hand sanitizer to three bottles per order.

On Tuesday, Wegmans announced the following items will also be limited to three per order:

• Rubbing alcohol
• Alcohol wipes and prep pads
• Hydrogen peroxide

They also announced the following products are limited to two per order:

• All Wegmans disinfecting wipes, 75 count
• All Clorox disinfecting wipes 
• All Lysol disinfecting wipes
• Forty counts of Wegmans towelettes
• Thirty-five and 24 counts of Wegmans water

The following items are limited to one per day:

• Family Packs of Wegmans bath tissue
• Family packs of Wegmans soft bath tissue

Wegmans says they’ve seen buying habits similar to trends that normally precede a storm, with customers stocking up on the above products, as well as foods with long shelf lives, and an increase in online orders.

Wegmans the company is increasing its orders based on demand.

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

Just now, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

 

 

....rationing of toilet paper could have serious ramifications on those that promulgate S*%T here...............

[Tiberius]

Only 6,500 tested here? Fail 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Literally parroting the CCP.

[keepthefaith]

31 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

....rationing toilet paper.......at least my Depends didn't make their list..................

Wegmans announces limits on cleaning products, toilet paper

 

WHEC TV

Updated: March 10, 2020 03:22 PM
Created: March 10, 2020 03:18 PM

 

(WHEC) — Wegmans is limiting the purchase of more personal care and cleaning items.

 

With people across the country reporting shortages of things like disinfectant wipes and toilet paper, including one Bishop Kearney graduate who is now living in King County, Washington, Wegmans says it’s limiting the purchase of certain items to ensure they’re available for all customers.

 

The grocery chain has already limited the purchase of hand sanitizer to three bottles per order.

On Tuesday, Wegmans announced the following items will also be limited to three per order:

• Rubbing alcohol
• Alcohol wipes and prep pads
• Hydrogen peroxide

They also announced the following products are limited to two per order:

• All Wegmans disinfecting wipes, 75 count
• All Clorox disinfecting wipes 
• All Lysol disinfecting wipes
• Forty counts of Wegmans towelettes
• Thirty-five and 24 counts of Wegmans water

The following items are limited to one per day:

• Family Packs of Wegmans bath tissue
• Family packs of Wegmans soft bath tissue

Wegmans says they’ve seen buying habits similar to trends that normally precede a storm, with customers stocking up on the above products, as well as foods with long shelf lives, and an increase in online orders.

Wegmans the company is increasing its orders based on demand.

 

 

What is with the rush for TP?  What are people thinking? 

[US Egg]

1 hour ago, Foxx said:

just wanted to point out that you wanted to quote Bob and not DR.

Oops ! Thanks. 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Foxx]

12 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

just to accentuate... 

https://twitter.com/HLAurora63/status/1237366237107228673

 

 

 

 

12 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Literally parroting the CCP.

Schumer is such a dishonest *****. is he going to claim Italy's PM is incompetent as well?

Italy suspends mortgage payments during coronavirus shutdown

Edited March 11, 2020 by Foxx

[Hardhatharry]

1 hour ago, Foxx said:

if the death rate for all coronavirus infections is .5% it would be lower than the deaths from the flu, of which we have vaccines for. 

 

come on, Bob. do not fall prey to the fear mongering.

 

 

just wanted to point out that you wanted to quote Bob and not DR.

I dont think people understand the difference between getting the flu and now getting the flu plus another virus just as infectious. Why not stop it now and not waste even more money down the line b/c honestly even .5% lower from ITS FIRST YEAR is still too much for something that can be wiped out by precautions that were not taken seriously here. The virus doesnt care who is "fear mongering" all the virus cares about is finding a host.

[stinky finger]

1 hour ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

 

Couple of ass wipes

43 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Only 6,500 tested here? Fail 

 

Are you positive?

[Foxx]

11 minutes ago, Hardhatharry said:

I dont think people understand the difference between getting the flu and now getting the flu plus another virus just as infectious. Why not stop it now and not waste even more money down the line b/c honestly even .5% lower from ITS FIRST YEAR is still too much for something that can be wiped out by precautions that were not taken seriously here. The virus doesnt care who is "fear mongering" all the virus cares about is finding a host.

i guess you missed the logic here, harry. let me break it down for you...

 

the flu, which we have a vaccine for every year currently has a mortality rate of around .8%. a virus that we don't have a vaccine for is expected to have a mortality rate of around .5%. so... using that knowledge, we can deduce a couple of reasonable conclusions.  a known virus that mutates every year and has a vaccine for, every year has a higher death rate than a virus that is new to mankind, has no known vaccine at this time and has a death rate slightly less than the flu. yet we are all up in arms about the virus that is less deadly than a known yearly event. 

 

one of these things is not like the other, harry. logic then dictates one ask themselves why that is. logic would then force certain conclusions.

Edited March 10, 2020 by Foxx

[Hardhatharry]

4 minutes ago, Foxx said:

i guess you missed the logic here, harry. let me break it down for you...

 

the flu, which we have a vaccine for every year currently has a mortality rate of around .8%. a virus that we don't have a vaccine for is expected to have a mortality rate of around .5%. so... using that knowledge, we can deduce a couple of reasonable conclusions.  a known virus that mutates every year and has a vaccine for, every year has a higher death rate than a virus that is new to mankind, has no known vaccine at this time and has a death rate slightly less than the flu. yet we are all up in arms about the virus that is less deadly than a known yearly event. 

 

one of these things is not like the other, harry. logic then dictates one ask themselves why that is.

Yes a virus that had to start with 1 patient in its first year that had to multiply from 1 to get to within .3% of a virus that has a foothold on the human population already and a steady stream of hosts around the globe with no need to wait for a host to travel to another country. You understand the bigger picture here? Get rid of it now instead of letting it be the next yearly flu.

 

You sit here talking about panic and ***** well no it is just what you need to do, what has been learned from past mistakes.

Edited March 10, 2020 by Hardhatharry

[ALF]

This is when politicians need to listen to the scientists and follow their advice. 

[US Egg]

54 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

So Chuck got 3 stooges, Gillibrand being one, to show up with him for his "vital" press conference.

 

They are fidgeting, can't look up, like they want this to end fast.

 

This was done for November.

 

 

[3rdnlng]

2 minutes ago, ALF said:

This is when politicians need to listen to the scientists and follow their advice. 

Not exactly. This is when the old idiom "The buck stops here" comes into play. The person we made President needs to take the advice from all pertinent corners (including scientists) and make a decision on what is best overall for America. 

[SoCal Deek]

37 minutes ago, ALF said:

This is when politicians need to listen to the scientists and follow their advice. 

Really?  You don't think scientists have an agenda? I've got a bridge to sell you.

[ALF]

8 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Really?  You don't think scientists have an agenda? I've got a bridge to sell you.

 

If you had cancer would you listen to the treatment advice  of a specialist DR or a politician ? 

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, ALF said:

 

If you had cancer would you listen to the treatment advice  of a specialist DR or a politician ? 

Why would I consult a politician about my personal cancer diagnosis? The distinction here is that politicians are completely intertwined in the Corona Hysteria.  These scientists you love to quote are giving their opinions on FUTURE conditions. There's very little disagreement between them about people who have the CURRENT condition.  You must remember when 'scientists' told you not to eat eggs, bacon, or entire host of other foods, only to be completely contradicted years later.

[bbb]

6 hours ago, Gary Busey said:

This hoax is causing problems all over the world

 

 

 

Then it's obviously Trump's fault 

 

[B-Man]

 

There are currently 926 active coronavirus cases in the US

 

Of these 926; 918 have mild symptoms (99%)

 

8 have serious/severe symptoms (1%)

 

https://worldometers.info/coronavirus/co

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/why-some-covid-19-cases-are-worse-than-others-67160

 

Elderly and sick people are most susceptible to severe forms of COVID-19

The latest data from China stem from an analysis of nearly 45,000 confirmed cases, and on the whole suggest that the people most likely to develop severe forms of COVID-19 are those with pre-existing illnesses and the elderly.

While less than 1 percent of people who were otherwise healthy died from the disease, the fatality rate for people with cardiovascular disease was 10.5 percent. That figure was 7.3 percent for diabetes patients and around 6 percent for those with chronic respiratory disease, hypertension, or cancer. 

While overall, 2.3 percent of known cases proved fatal—which many experts say is likely an overestimate of the mortality rate, given that many mild cases might go undiagnosed—patients 80 years or older were most at risk, with 14.8 percent of them dying. Deaths occurred in every age group except in children under the age of nine, and, generally speaking, “we see relatively few cases among children,” World Health Organization Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said last week.

This pattern of increasing severity with age differs from that of some other viral outbreaks, notably the 1918 flu pandemic, for which mortality was high in young children and in people between 20 and 40 years of age. However, it’s broadly consistent with records of the SARS and MERS coronavirus outbreaks, notes Lisa Gralinski, a virologist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. “If you’re over fifty or sixty and you have some other health issues and if you’re unlucky enough to be exposed to this virus, it could be very bad,” she says. 

I think it’s going to take a really, really long time to understand the mechanistic, biological basis of why some people get sicker than others.

—Angela Rasmussen, Columbia University

Scientists don’t know what exactly happens in older age groups. But based on research on other respiratory viruses, experts theorize that whether a coronavirus infection takes a turn for the worse depends on a person’s immune response. “The virus matters, but the host response matters at least as much, and probably more,” says Stanley Perlman, a virologist and pediatric infectious disease specialist at the University of Iowa.

Once SARS-CoV-2 gets inside the human respiratory tract, it’s thought to infect and multiply in cells lining the airway, causing damage that kicks the immune system into action. In most people, it should trigger a wave of local inflammation, recruiting immune cells in the vicinity to eradicate the pathogen. The immune response then recedes, and patients recover. 

For reasons that aren’t entirely clear, some people—especially the elderly and sick—may have dysfunctional immune systems that fail to keep the response to particular pathogens in check. This could cause an uncontrolled immune response, triggering an overproduction of immune cells and their signaling molecules and leading to a cytokine storm often associated with a flood of immune cells into the lung. “That’s when you end up with a lot of these really severe inflammatory disease conditions like pneumonia, shortness of breath, inflammation of the airway, and so forth,” says Rasmussen. 

Local inflammation can turn into widespread inflammation of the lungs, which then has ripple effects across all organs of the body. This could also happen if the virus replicates faster than the immune system can respond, so that it then has to play catch-up to contain the pathogen—a situation that could also cause the immune defense to spiral out of control. “With mice, we know that in some cases, particularly for SARS and MERS coronaviruses, virus replication is very rapid and in some cases overwhelming” to the immune system, says Perlman.  

It’s harder to explain why young, healthy people also sometimes die from the disease—for instance, Li Wenliang, a 34-year-old doctor who first sounded the alarm about the virus. He died a few weeks after contracting the pathogen.

Genetic and environmental risk factors might help explain the severity of infections. Though it’s clear that genetic factors can strongly determine the outcome of viral infections in mice—as some of Rasmussen’s work has shown for Ebola, for instance—researchers haven’t yet been able to tease out specific genes or variants in mice, let alone in people, that are responsible for varying degrees of illness. Environmental factors, such as smoking or air quality, may also play a role in disease severity, Rasmussen adds.

A lot of research has gone into understanding what causes respiratory failure that results from systemic inflammation of the lungs—also called acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS)—that can occur from coronaviruses and other infections. Yet researchers still don’t know how it occurs exactly, let alone how to treat it, Gralinksi notes. “It’s still a really poorly understood issue.”  

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

CORONAVIRUS UPDATE: 

 

UK Health minister Nadine Dorries tests positive.

 

 

Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden cancel Cleveland rallies over coronavirus concerns.

 

 

Coronavirus Kills 2 in Washington State, U.S. 2 Washington state nursing home residents in their 80s have died from the coronavirus, officials said Tuesday.

 

 

 

Pence outlines new coronavirus measures.

 

 

 

To stave off coronavirus’ spread, Grinnell College cancels in-person classes for rest of year, instructs students to leave campus.

 

 

 

MGM Resorts to close buffets at multiple Las Vegas Strip locations amid coronavirus outbreak. ***** just got real.

 

 

Walmart Enacts Emergency Leave Policy Due to Coronavirus.

 

 

 

 

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[Deranged Rhino]

 

[ALF]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Really?  You don't think scientists have an agenda? I've got a bridge to sell you.

 

1 hour ago, ALF said:

 

If you had cancer would you listen to the treatment advice  of a specialist DR or a politician ? 

 

You don't think Doctors are scientists ?

 

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Why would I consult a politician about my personal cancer diagnosis? The distinction here is that politicians are completely intertwined in the Corona Hysteria.  These scientists you love to quote are giving their opinions on FUTURE conditions. There's very little disagreement between them about people who have the CURRENT condition.  You must remember when 'scientists' told you not to eat eggs, bacon, or entire host of other foods, only to be completely contradicted years later.

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

[Warren Zevon]

 

 

 

 

12 hours ago, ALF said:

This is when politicians need to listen to the scientists and follow their advice. 

 

Merkel is right on the money.