The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[BillsFanNC]

[dpberr]

Of course the vaccines *are* safe *and* effective.  Penn has one billion reasons to tell you why.  They were the first employer to mandate the vaccine in Pennsylvania.  

 

"Research behind COVID-19 vaccines reaps close to $1 billion in royalties for Penn"

https://www.inquirer.com/business/penn-covid-vaccine-technology-mrna-royalties-revenue-20220612.html

 

[BillsFanNC]

Gee, you don't say?

 

Every single person who merely slept through a virology 101 course knew this was a very distinct possibility from the very beginning.

 

But the magic of covid also turned everyone into expert scientists, many of whom advocated for what every scientist knows is a guiding principle of science:

 

Squelch dissent and questioning of the data.  

 

 

[Doc]

It was always a leak from the Wuhan lab until proven otherwise.

[BillsFanNC]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

It was always a leak from the Wuhan lab until proven otherwise.

 

Agreed. But remember when you were censored and/or banned from platforms for suggesting the possibility?

 

Yet another example of "saving our democracy" by commies.

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:

Agreed. But remember when you were censored and/or banned from platforms for suggesting the possibility?

 

Yet another example of "saving our democracy" by commies.

 

Yup.  Among the many things that our so-called "experts" did that pissed me off .

[BillsFanNC]

You know how I know they were lying the very moment they first made the claim that the vaccinated can't transmit covid?

 

Because the initial published trials only claimed 95% efficacy. If you have covid, you are can transmit it. Period.

 

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

48 minutes ago, DRsGhost said:

You know how I know they were lying the very moment they first made the claim that the vaccinated can't transmit covid?

 

Because the initial published trials only claimed 95% efficacy. If you have covid, you are can transmit it. Period.

 

 

 

One of my big takeaways with the COVID vaccines is the distinction between clinical trial data vs, real world data or evidence.  A disparity between the trial endpoint objectives and the results of the trial and the rhetoric used by officials.  The trial objectives were to demonstrate infection free efficacy.

Nowhere in the trial objectives or endpoints were the terms, measurements, conditions, or observations of "protection from serious illness and hospitalization".  In the trial an observation of inflection with protection was a "fail".  In the real world use interpretation of official a case of infection with protection, defined as non-critical illness and no hospitalization was a "pass".  This positive outcome was something public health officials made up after real world evidence demonstrated the vaccine did not grant or provide immunity. 

 

Which leads to my opinion that the trial claimed to demonstrate efficacy and the vaccine was approved based on the trial but real world use and data demonstrates immunity is not achieved, only "protection".  So that indicates some deficiency in the trial set up, incorrect interpretation of the data, and an error by the FDA regarding approval, maybe some other mistakes or errors.  Approval generally being the target intervention of the trial does what it says the trail objectives state ,which it clearly doesn't in real life use.  In simple terms, the vaccine doesn't work as advertised so it should not have been approved based on the trial which was invalid based on real life experience and data where the actual level of immunity appears to be a fraction of the 95% efficacy against infection the trials claimed to have achieved.  So somebody's lying here.  The vaccine producers, the trial managers, the FDA, public health and medical community members.  Take your pick.

Edited June 25, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills

[BillsFanNC]

Actually the published trials for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines did indeed have a secondary endpoint for protection from severe covid/hospitalization. 

 

I have the papers from NEJM somewhere,  I'll dig them up.

Edited June 25, 2022 by DRsGhost

[B-Man]

 

 

 

                                           

 

 

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[Doc]

"Follow the hope."

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

[Doc]

"Trust the science." 

[Albwan]

...ahhh.... covid ....the good ol days for the worst of the worst Americans.

[Beast]

4 hours ago, Doc said:

"Trust the science." 

 

How can't you? I mean, they also want us to believe men can have babies. That's their science.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

[SoCal Deek]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

I live just outside of Los Angeles County. Yesterday it was exposed that her DAUGHTER (who goes by her maiden name) was one of the authors of the report she cites as reasons for masking requirements. She needs to step down immediately! By any reasonable stretch this a huge conflict of interest. Unbelievable. 

[aristocrat]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Bring it. I'd love me some viral genome mapping data debates.

 

 

[Doc]

Gotta love these so-called "medical experts" who are either corrupt or stupid, neither of which is a good look for them.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

COVID is over. Unvaccinated have the same guidance as vaccinated.

 

 

 

 

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[Big Blitz]

18 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

COVID is over. Unvaccinated have the same guidance as vaccinated.

 

 

 

 

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Mid term polling is that brutal.  It all flies in the face of the b.s. logic they've been lying about since day 1.  Example - half our kids aren't Vaccinated and very few under 6 are.  

 

Expect a declaration of victory by Biden sometime around Labor Day. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One guy was right from the start.  

 

 

[SCBills]

Everything they warned us Trump was, they are.  Example #127

 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

Never vote Democrat 

 

Ever

[ArdmoreRyno]

Not sure this has been posted.... but has anyone seen the CDC recommendations on Monkeypox and sex? 

 

It's a hoot. 

[B-Man]

2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Never vote Democrat 

 

Ever

 

 

 

[BuffaninSarasota]

[Big Blitz]

Never forger these people all vote the same and their worldview has spiraled into North Korea territory 

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Doc]

When do the class action lawswuits start?

[Big Blitz]

'I didn't really learn anything': COVID grads face college

 

 

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Nearly a third of Hope's high school career was spent at home, in virtual classes that were hard to follow and easy to brush aside. Some days he skipped school to work extra hours at his job. Some days he played games with his brother and sister.

 

Other days he just stayed in bed.

Algebra got little of his attention, but his teachers kept giving him good grades amid a school-wide push for leniency.

 

"It was like school was optional. It wasn't a mandatory thing," said Hope, 18, of Milwaukee. "I feel like I didn't really learn anything."

 

Across the country, there are countless others like him. Hundreds of thousands of recent graduates are heading to college this fall after spending more than half their high school careers dealing with the upheaval of a pandemic. They endured a jarring transition to online learning, the strains from teacher shortages and profound disruptions to their home lives. And many are believed to be significantly behind academically.

 

https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-race-and-ethnicity-milwaukee-5ab5394b2513e7136b9b854355770a1a

[Motorin']

22 hours ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

 

True story, I've flown 6 or 7 times during the pandemic. Early this week was the first time I didn't wear a mask on the plane... I've been in bed for the last three days with a 102 fever (and tested positive for the first time.) 

 

Good thing I wasn't Virtue signaling, am I right? 

Edited August 13, 2022 by Motorin'

[BuffaninSarasota]

40 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

True story, I've flown 6 or 7 times during the pandemic. Early this week was the first time I didn't wear a mask on the plane... I've been in bed for the last three days with a 102 fever (and tested positive for the first time.) 

 

Good thing I wasn't Virtue signaling, am I right? 

I don’t know, were you ?

[BillsFanNC]

46 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

True story, I've flown 6 or 7 times during the pandemic. Early this week was the first time I didn't wear a mask on the plane... I've been in bed for the last three days with a 102 fever (and tested positive for the first time.) 

 

Good thing I wasn't Virtue signaling, am I right? 

 

SCIENCE !!

 

For the woke!

[Big Blitz]

 

[JDHillFan]

22 hours ago, Motorin' said:

 

True story, I've flown 6 or 7 times during the pandemic. Early this week was the first time I didn't wear a mask on the plane... I've been in bed for the last three days with a 102 fever (and tested positive for the first time.) 

 

Good thing I wasn't Virtue signaling, am I right? 

EVERYONE is going to get it and probably get it multiple times. You should make like the politicians and issue a statement about how thankful you are to have been vaxxed and double-boosted. 
 

(I’m assuming for the sake of pointing out the idiocy of it all).

[BillsFanNC]