Koko78 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 14 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I leave you with Better Hand Washing, courtesy of Naomi Wu Yes I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Wesley Clark has the same reputation with many of us around here as Lincoln had of George McClellan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) I can see if you read it and disagree that's one thing but to say no to reading an ex military general couldn't possibly have anything worthwhile to say , why? Because he identifies as a democrat? to me that is extremely whats the word "snowflake" SMH Im surprised frankly. What was written seems pretty common sensical to me Edited May 7, 2020 by Margarita 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Margarita said: this seemed to be the best thread to post this in. I saw this letter written by Wesley K. Clark, a retired Army general and NATO's former supreme allied commander in Europe, was a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004 and is a CNN military analyst. The views expressed in this commentary are his own. I happen to think it makes a ton of sense. Not that DT would listen or take heed to it but IMO he should. Its called President Trump, Here's how to take control of this crisis. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/07/opinions/crisis-leadership-advice-for-president-trump-wesley-clark/index.html Dear Mr. President, Please do things that democrats can use in campaign events to make you look bad. My aim in writing this is to help you (lose the next election, because at the national level that is all anyone from my side of the aisle (and the Never Trumpers from the other side of the Aisle, too) care about). (Did he forget to put the stuff in parenthesis in the letter, or did CNN edit it out?) Yep, great article. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just now, Taro T said: Dear Mr. President, Please do things that democrats can use in campaign events to make you look bad. My aim in writing this is to help you (lose the next election, because at the national level that is all anyone from my side of the aisle (and the Never Trumpers from the other side of the Aisle, too) care about). (Did he forget to put the stuff in parenthesis in the letter, or did CNN edit it out?) Yep, great article. for goodness sakes that's what you got from reading that? at least you read it I'll give you credit for that. Wow we clearly don't think alike at all. I thimk what you wrote was a crock of bull just to be clear geez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 48 minutes ago, Nanker said: Wilson was an unabashed racist who refused to integrate the US Army and to let African Americans to attend Princeton University. without a doubt...as mentioned, he refused tohave any kind of federal responce tot he Spanish Flu as he thought it would be harmful to the war effort. Granted, pre FDR, so the presidency and the Federal oversight was way less than today...buy any Federal intervention /reposnce may have saved 100 of thousands of life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Margarita said: I can see if you read it and disagree but to say no an ex military general couldn't possibly have anything worthwhile to say , why? Because he identifies as a democrat? I did read it, against my better judgement. I should have followed my instincts. I didn’t find anything in it other than the same tired criticisms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Margarita said: for goodness sakes that's what you got from reading that? at least you read it I'll give you credit for that. Wow we clearly don't think alike at all. I thimk what you wrote was a crock of bull just to be clear geez Knowing who General Clark is, yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I did read it, against my better judgement. I should have followed my instincts. I didn’t find anything in it other than the same tired criticisms Just now, Taro T said: Knowing who General Clark is, yep. So you guys are saying there wasn't anything new & alternative? Shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, GG said: So you guys are saying there wasn't anything new & alternative? Shocking. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 I think your uber Trump Bias is showing here and if it were anyone but DT being criticized I bet you'd see things differently and it would make a lot more sense. If a different author had penned it would that have made a difference? Maybe just maybe the "same old criticisms hold water and your fandom of DT don't allow you to see it? Maybe? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) Book 'em Dano: https://apnews.com/86c1327cd4630d745176078828787373 Edited May 7, 2020 by \GoBillsInDallas/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Margarita said: I think your uber Trump Bias is showing here and if it were anyone but DT being criticized I bet you'd see things differently and it would make a lot more sense. If a different author had penned it would that have made a difference? Maybe just maybe the "same old criticisms hold water and your fandom of DT don't allow you to see it? Maybe? You said it was an alternative view. It wasn't. It's a rehash of the old criticism of Trump's bombastic personality. Newsflash, he ain't changing. The people who are likely to vote for him stopped paying literal attention to what he says, knowing fully well that a lot of it is exaggerated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Margarita said: I think your uber Trump Bias is showing here and if it were anyone but DT being criticized I bet you'd see things differently and it would make a lot more sense. If a different author had penned it would that have made a difference? Maybe just maybe the "same old criticisms hold water and your fandom of DT don't allow you to see it? Maybe? The whole intro is dedicated to the idea that Trump doesn't take criticism or suggestions well. Dr. Fauci has publicly stated that Trump has listened to all of their suggestions and not interfered with their conclusions. Perhaps the 'advice' would come across better if he opted to skip the personal attacks and just gave the suggestions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Kemp said: It is not true that all Americans returning to the country are being tested, nor that anyone is being forced to quarantine, Subjected to testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Margarita said: I think your uber Trump Bias is showing here and if it were anyone but DT being criticized I bet you'd see things differently and it would make a lot more sense. If a different author had penned it would that have made a difference? Maybe just maybe the "same old criticisms hold water and your fandom of DT don't allow you to see it? Maybe? I didn’t vote for Trump, I have never liked Trump as a person, and I am not in any Trump fan clubs. I am also not a fan of the non-stop criticism and blame during a national crisis. The letter started out with “This is your last chance to get it right” and went downhill from there. You are welcome to have whatever opinions you want and I’ll have mine. Don’t assume the motivations I have for my opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 but... but... #orangemanbad. https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1258389110953254912 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, GG said: You said it was an alternative view. It wasn't. It's a rehash of the old criticism of Trump's bombastic personality. Newsflash, he ain't changing. The people who are likely to vote for him stopped paying literal attention to what he says, knowing fully well that a lot of it is exaggerated. Trump, besides his career in NYC real estate development spent years as a showman on TV. While many here, including myself wish Trump would not raise expectations with his rhetoric, he still does. It's in his nature to speak as if he was presenting a "teaser" for an upcoming show. Think of him as a circus barker with The Greatest Show on Earth. With that said, the show might not be as good as claimed but it's certainly a damn good show and much better than any alternative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Trump, besides his career in NYC real estate development spent years as a showman on TV. While many here, including myself wish Trump would not raise expectations with his rhetoric, he still does. It's in his nature to speak as if he was presenting a "teaser" for an upcoming show. Think of him as a circus barker with The Greatest Show on Earth. With that said, the show might not be as good as claimed but it's certainly a damn good show and much better than any alternative. Snake oil salesman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 15 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think you all guys need a little "sexy cyborg" in here Personally I think if our leaders give a clear and unambiguous message, people will do the right thing. We saw that in the huge mobilization efforts around the World Wars. We saw behavior change around seatbelts when massive public service campaigns were joined to legal penalties. It's silly to say just many "won't wear masks" - of course, when they see our President and VP/Task Force Leader not wearing masks, and when Missouri Governor says "it's a personal choice, I chose to not wear a mask", OF COURSE people won't wear masks. But we could do the experiment. I leave you with Better Hand Washing, courtesy of Naomi Wu She has a nice personality.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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