Doc Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 11 hours ago, B-Man said: As EVERYONE knew............... Well isn't that special? 36 minutes ago, 716er said: They will blame higher covid numbers on border crossings just like they planned. Yeah, that can't be the reason. Just like the riots weren't super-spreader events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Got my 1st covid shot yesterday, ache, slightly, ankles to shoulders today. I will survive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 How DARE she....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 2 hours ago, ALF said: Millions being vaccinated should compensate for border crossers I would think. Of course - plus it's total BS - but the agenda has been set and the talking points are already written. 2 hours ago, Doc said: Yeah, that can't be the reason. Just like the riots weren't super-spreader events. See. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 The United States has crossed an important Milestone. We have already vaccinated more people than were infected by Covid over the course of last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Football season ends April 1st. Yes that's correct a full 6 game season is underway here. Football season happened here in this state when metrics were worse then they were in September No word on how "overwhelmed" our hospitals are. Question nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Death cult alert in Maryland. But don't worry your breathable Under Armor gaiter will keep everyone safe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 The break along "party" lines with this is astounding. Of course it's highly likely this "Heather" is one of millions of Chinese bots. It's possible the mayor is to. At least on the payroll. Total team player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 "Sir why our we letting illegals in if there is this airborne plague you're terrifying Americans about by telling them not to even hug grandma and nice double mask btw weren't you "vaccinated?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: "Sir why our we letting illegals in if there is this airborne plague you're terrifying Americans about by telling them not to even hug grandma and nice double mask btw weren't you "vaccinated?" A deer staring into headlights doesn't look as dumbfounded as Biden looks here. The world knows he is a puppet President. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 34 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: "Sir why our we letting illegals in if there is this airborne plague you're terrifying Americans about by telling them not to even hug grandma and nice double mask btw weren't you "vaccinated?" That freaking stutter, huh? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 China's biggest useful idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) On 3/8/2021 at 3:40 AM, Doc Brown said: Just block these people out. It's a fruitless battle. The election was stolen from Trump and nothing you say will convince them otherwise. so i was reading back my conversation and both our points. i may not have put what i was saying well enough and just going through the discussion. then i came across this and it goes to the point i was making. i can say your right! there is a us and "them" and it is pointless to try and "convince" them. there are large segments of people that completely trust the info they are fed and manipulated with. those people watch only biased media that confirms them and never give credibility to those that don't. anyone who doesn't agree is not worth the time because they are WRONG no matter what, because you must be all in or out. no in between. so which are you? if you took anytime to read the discussion you may have come across my actual stance. but snap judgments is kind of what "they" do. i won't try to convince you as it was all there to read before you gave advice. ill just leave what i actually said in the discussion you made this comment on that states how i undeniably believe the election was stolen and there's no convincing "them". you and him both seemed to want others to accept your absolutes. i think your the ones who can't be reasoned with because personally i concider this is very reasonable take. On 3/7/2021 at 8:15 PM, Buffarukus said: somehow ive been put in the strange position of defending trumps allegations and having to scour the internet for factual proof that he himself has not. that's not what I'm saying and never was my stance. my stance is that there is validity to peoples idea that we have alot of troubling problems in our election system and yes i believe corruption was involved. the overwhelming evidence seems to say that joe biden was elected as presidents but that in no way means that there were not very troubling ways in which that happened. that also does not mean if they were corrected he would not have been. not trying to push this subject further, just pointing out what my issue was to begin with. Edited March 10, 2021 by Buffarukus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Covid: Brazil experts issue warning as hospitals 'close to collapse' More than 80% of intensive care unit beds are occupied in the capitals of 25 of Brazil's 27 states, Fiocruz said. Experts warn that the highly contagious variant in Brazil may have knock-on effects in the region and beyond. "Brazil is a threat to humanity," Fiocruz epidemiologist Jesem Orellana told the AFP news agency. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-56342303 Then there is the UK and S. Africa variant . The present vaccine just has to work against these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 lib harpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) Here we go.......your kids are going to be in dystopian distanced schools until September 2022 at minimum... Oh and masks and distancing for all indefinitely: “We certainly recommend and encourage families to be comfortable with sending their children to school, but we also realize that there are situations with families — perhaps they have elderly individuals living at home, people with special medical needs, and they’re just not comfortable with their kids returning to school,” Northam said. “We understand that, and the schools will continue to provide virtual learning ... until we get to the point where this pandemic is finally in the rearview mirror.” Northam said reaching herd immunity in Virginia will eventually require vaccinating children. Right now, none of the three available vaccines in the U.S. have been tested on children, who were not prioritized in vaccine trials given the low number of cases and little evidence of spread among them. “That leaves a lot of children that still have yet to be vaccinated,” said Northam, adding that trials for safety and efficacy of the vaccines on children won’t be completed until late this year. “The message here is that it’s going to take a while to reach herd immunity, to get both our adults and children vaccinated, which is what our ultimate goal is.” https://richmond-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/richmond.com/news/state-and-regional/virginia-officials-update-covid-19-guidance-to-schools-as-more-districts-move-toward-reopening-classrooms/article_7e2f18de-1089-5773-b516-b8cf07f817b1.amp.html?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=16153883009361&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From %1%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Frichmond.com%2Fnews%2Fstate-and-regional%2Fvirginia-officials-update-covid-19-guidance-to-schools-as-more-districts-move-toward-reopening-classrooms%2Farticle_7e2f18de-1089-5773-b516-b8cf07f817b1.html Anyone here get that memo on what the goal is now? Anyone? No update on hospitalizations or ICUs being overwhelmed. This is proof of 12 straight months of lies. Confirmed. Parents have a right to know what these lunatics are planning for 2021-2022. This is a disgrace. And the American people and fake news press putting up with it are an embarrassment to civilization. Edited March 10, 2021 by Big Blitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-00480-0/tables/1 Fantastic article discussing the major vaccines and this table 1 link really highlights how the US/Europe has the best ones. Truly impressive Pfizer and Moderna took the extra scientific steps to design a more effective spike protein antigen in such a short time. Please everyone get the vaccine, I got Moderna, nothing too bad but mostly some transient chills/fever 13-18 hours post-second dose. This vaccine is nothing more than an mRNA surrounded by nano-lipid (fat) molecules. Side effects are consistent with a viral immune response and I think Moderna pushed the dose level given the urgent need. Side effects I take as a sign the vaccination was successful the first dose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 The problem is that they're not as effective against the newer variants, whereas the J&J one is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 6 hours ago, ALF said: Covid: Brazil experts issue warning as hospitals 'close to collapse' More than 80% of intensive care unit beds are occupied in the capitals of 25 of Brazil's 27 states, Fiocruz said. Experts warn that the highly contagious variant in Brazil may have knock-on effects in the region and beyond. "Brazil is a threat to humanity," Fiocruz epidemiologist Jesem Orellana told the AFP news agency. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-56342303 Then there is the UK and S. Africa variant . The present vaccine just has to work against these What I'm seeing from lab studies is that the mRNA vaccines that modified the spike protein (pfizer, moderna) are effective against UK, Brazil but lose something like 12 fold effectiveness for the S. Africa variant. J&J, Novavax have even more S-protein modifications so they may perform better against S. Africa. Keep in mind that current Russia, China, Astra Zeneca vaccines use the non-modified spike protein and may have decidedly less efficacy. Supposedly Moderna or Pfizer has already sent FDA a modified vaccine dose they feel will be more effective against the variants. Not sure if this is different from their next-gen vaccine of the receptor binding domain (RBD) already in clinical trials. Sorry, no citations, saw this in browsing articles last night and this morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 23 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Football season ends April 1st. Yes that's correct a full 6 game season is underway here. Football season happened here in this state when metrics were worse then they were in September No word on how "overwhelmed" our hospitals are. Question nothing. The state of emergency is good business for state government bureaucracy. There is every incentive to keep it alive so that the federal government continues shoveling money to the states to prop up pensions and pay for all sorts of stuff. The stimulus bill reflects it. NY state is set to receive nearly $24 billion in cash with no strings. If the federal government told the healthcare industry and the states that no more federal money is coming their way because of COVID, states would open up within the hour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, BillStime said: And you think otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Based on the projections, 2 million people were saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, Doc said: Based on the projections, 2 million people were saved. There is always that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 57 minutes ago, Doc said: Based on the projections, 2 million people were saved. What projections are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 49 minutes ago, Scraps said: What projections are you talking about? Maybe this President Trump is claiming that without his efforts, there would have been 2 million deaths in the U.S. from COVID-19. But that 2 million number is taken from a model that shows what would happen without any mitigation measures — that is, if citizens had continued their daily lives as usual, and governments did nothing. Experts said that wouldn’t have happened in real life. Trump implemented travel restrictions for some people traveling from China beginning Feb. 2 and for Europe on March 11. But experts say and reports show the restrictions don’t appear to have had much effect because they were put in place too late and had too many holes. https://khn.org/news/fact-check-president-trump-says-he-saved-2-million-lives-from-covid/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Example the GQP rely on their ignorant voters: The SOB voted against the relief package. Idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 He is very fortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Blitz Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 "Once we flatten the curve we can sort of well we need to not overwhelm the hospitals ok but there are too many cases so wait till the vaccine but hold on variants and not sure what the vaccines do ok so f...it until all the kids are vaccinated by September 2022....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Who elected the CDC President? "The C.D.C. on Monday released long-awaited guidance for Americans who have been fully vaccinated, telling them that it is safe to gather in small groups at home without masks or social distancing." Its cool everyone. You can now gather in small groups in your homes......if you are fully vaccinated! Wow what awful lives people have been living the last 12 months. And willingly. What was going to be your plan if Trump didn't succeed at developing the miracle vaccine? What if there is no cure? What was your long term strategy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) Why I know this has all been bull ***t That dude wrote a book on "leadership" during the pandemic and bragged about how New York handled it better than everyone. Dupes. You're all dupes. The Chinese are crying hysterically laughing at all this. Edited March 11, 2021 by Big Blitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 4 hours ago, BillStime said: He is very fortunate. Wow living on oxygen rest of his life. Truly feel for that guy. Wouldn't wish any bad on anyone . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Who elected the CDC President? "The C.D.C. on Monday released long-awaited guidance for Americans who have been fully vaccinated, telling them that it is safe to gather in small groups at home without masks or social distancing." Its cool everyone. You can now gather in small groups in your homes......if you are fully vaccinated! Wow what awful lives people have been living the last 12 months. And willingl Good news. GET VACCINATED PEOPLE. Convince vaccine skeptics the best you can. Full supply should be available by May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Good news. GET VACCINATED PEOPLE. Convince vaccine skeptics the best you can. Full supply should be available by May. I believe the numbers show that people are indeed getting vaccinated at unprecedented numbers. Sure, there’ll be some who don’t but that’s true for all vaccinations...and I’m not going to yell at or throw shame at people who don’t. You never know what conditions they may have or life experience they’ve gone through. One of the best things about this particular vaccine is that it’s bipartisan. It was developed under Trump and dispensed under Biden...so I’m hoping it takes some of the politics out of it...or at least it should! Edited March 11, 2021 by SoCal Deek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 7 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Good news. GET VACCINATED PEOPLE. Convince vaccine skeptics the best you can. Full supply should be available by May. Yea we know this. That's great. Awesome. I guess. But when did this become about herd immunity and vaccinate all kids? How is anyone good with the 60000000 goal post moves, lying, and the suffering our kids will continue to endure in blue states still by September of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 31 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I believe the numbers show that people are indeed getting vaccinated at unprecedented numbers. Sure, there’ll be some who don’t but that’s true for all vaccinations...and I’m not going to yell at or throw shame at people who don’t. You never know what conditions they may have or life experience they’ve gone through. One of the best things about this particular vaccine is that it’s bipartisan. It was developed under Trump and dispensed under Biden...so I’m hoping it takes some of the politics out of it...or at least it should! Polls have shown a greater degree of vaccine hesitancy from Republicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Scraps said: Polls have shown a greater degree of vaccine hesitancy from Republicans. And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: And? It addressed your last statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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