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2 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

It is one of the poorest areas in America...

 

NOT EVEN CLOSE!

 

Visit places like the Deep South, Alaska, rural farm areas of California, Appalachia.

 

Take a look at the map on this site.

 

    Erie County -  15.1% live below the poverty level

    Niagara County - 13.8% live below the poverty level

 

Compared to places like

 

    Apache County AZ - 38.7% live below the poverty level

    McKinley County NM - 40.3% live below the poverty level

    Wheeler County GA - 45% live below the poverty level

    Humphreys County MI - 48.3% live below the poverty level

    Ziebach County SD - 48.7% live below the poverty level

 

And on and on and on.......

   

http://www.msnbc.com/interactives/geography-of-poverty/index.html

 

Dude.  You lost.  You got your ass handed to you.  You embarrassed yourself.  Admit defeat and I will respect you. Until then you're being made a fool. 

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5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Dude.  You lost.  You got your ass handed to you.  You embarrassed yourself.  Admit defeat and I will respect you. Until then you're being made a fool. 

 

This sums up just about every discussion he has ever engaged in on this forum....

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20 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

It will be interesting to see the national cdc flu reports this flu seasons though and compare it with the average.  How many people that died from covid would've died from the flu anyways?

With the restrictions imposed in most areas it should reduce influenza infections and deaths also.  Isolating people limits exposure to more than just Covid 19.

  Also, we have solid diagnostic tests for influenza so we can at least reliably determine if that was the cause of an illness/death.

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Hey @SDS is there anyway to track the posts per day in this thread.  I bet that would be very telling that:

 

1. The issue is becoming less severe

2. People are just getting tired of it. 

3. Or are we all so "in this together" that we are now discussing it via the collective consciousness?  

20 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

This sums up just about every discussion he has ever engaged in on this forum....

 

And @BillStime response of:

 

HA!! All those red areas!!!  in 3....2....1......

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1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Fake logic.  If you meant to speak only to me, you would have private messaged me.  Instead you published your comments to -- and therefore spoke to -- the "public."  I appreciate you acknowledging your familiarity with the private message function; your knowledge of that tool further suggests that your refusal to use it in this context was intentional. 

 

Carry on. 

 

 

 

Okay, to carry on, I responded to you in an appropriate way.  There was no need for me to message you other than by the way I posted.

I’m not making an argument that needs to be supported by logic, I’m giving you my reason why I consider this a very brief and limited discourse between you and me. Whether I post it here or by a private message to you is irrelevant to me.  No logical extrapolation needs to be done.  You are my audience and I’m not concerned at all whether anyone else reads this post which is directed at you.  So in addition to consistently misusing the word hoax, in this context you also misuse the word logic.  

 

I’m through with this.  You can can carry on now.  Enjoy your day.

 

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51 minutes ago, meazza said:

Why the ***** did you have to quote that entire post?  

 

Because you didn't read it the first time.  He was just being nice and giving you the opportunity to read it again.  Tibs is such a team player. 

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1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

NOT EVEN CLOSE!

 

Visit places like the Deep South, Alaska, rural farm areas of California, Appalachia.

 

Take a look at the map on this site.

 

    Erie County -  15.1% live below the poverty level

    Niagara County - 13.8% live below the poverty level

 

Compared to places like

 

    Apache County AZ - 38.7% live below the poverty level

    McKinley County NM - 40.3% live below the poverty level

    Wheeler County GA - 45% live below the poverty level

    Humphreys County MI - 48.3% live below the poverty level

    Ziebach County SD - 48.7% live below the poverty level

 

And on and on and on.......

   

http://www.msnbc.com/interactives/geography-of-poverty/index.html

 

Dude.  You lost.  You got your ass handed to you.  You embarrassed yourself.  Admit defeat and I will respect you. Until then you're being made a fool. 

Indian reservations?

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1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

Indian reservations?

 

I assume many of those are. But I wouldn't be surprised if the Native Americans in WNY are doing well.  I'm pretty sure with all the leased land in the Palm Springs area the Aqua Caliente tribe owns is generating tons of cash. 

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Just now, Chef Jim said:

 

I assume many of those are. But I wouldn't be surprised if the Native Americans in WNY are doing well.  I'm pretty sure with all the leased land in the Palm Springs area the Aqua Caliente tribe owns is generating tons of cash. 

I've been over to the reservation in Irving numerous times and the trip up to Gowanda is nearly all reservation and it doesn't look too good for the individuals but the Indian government buildings are pretty substantial and modern. Salamanca area is just so-so but they do have the casino and again substantial government buildings.

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Trump up:

(what is hilarious is those seated are 6' apart, but those in the back of the room (overflow and photographers) are squished together)

He is with Governor Lee  of Tennessee. This is a Seniors focus.

Proclamation for May "older Americans month"
New actions for nursing homes.
Azar, Wilkie, Gainer, Lengyel, and one more I missed
Vaccines moving along rapidly.
Moved at a stunning speed.
Accelerated treatments.
Had VA staff help in nursing homes (not new)
$1B grants for home delivered meals.
650K from 11K a week are using telahealth
Ventilates (*****, I have wine today! I may end up on the floor)

Gen Lengyel: (I am gonna guess he is there due to today's EO)

National Guard what they are doing. Staffing food banks, cleaning nursing homes,

 

Trump:
supporting state led nursing homes

Governor Lee:
Blowing smoke up Trump's butt, praising him to high heavens
In April 2% of TN were tested, in May expected to test more... especially in nursing homes
Committed to testing all residents and staff in all 700 long term care facilities (!)

 

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Trump:
In additional to all distributed supplies FEMA will send supplemental shipments (Pete Gainer) PPE to all 15,000 nursing homes in US. More money from CARES ACT to nursing homes.
New testing data from nursing home will be posted online (as well as telling relatives about cases in the nursing homes)
Coronavirus commission for nursing homes



 

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Alex Azar:
$1B in grants to aging agencies (40% in annual support), delivered meals, assistance with chores in homes, and trips to the grocery stores

 

Robert Wilkie:
All 78K residents and staff in VA homes have been tested.
The virus has been contained in the VA nursing homes.
VA staff was deployed to state nursing homes (MA, NJ, AL, TN, CA, MN, RI, TX, etc ... talking about having taken in non-VA people into some of those nursing homes)

 

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3 hours ago, Gary M said:

 

Still haven't gotten a single answer from any of you guys that know so much!!! 

 

please explain in regards to the Kung Flu (aka Covid-19)

 

1:  what actions POTUS should have taken 

2:   when he should have implemented each action, exact dates please

3:  and what the key factor that would have triggered each action.

 

I can answer for them:

 

1. More.

2. Earlier.

3. Triggered?!?! STFU you racist bigoted actual literal super mecha-Nazi.

 

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5 hours ago, Kemp said:

 

Since you're hazy, you probably forgot he found evidence of obstruction. 

 

Side questions:

 

Why do you think Trump refused to have an English translator when he met with Putin, when that has never been the procedure?

 

Why do you think Trump accepted Putin saying Russia didn't interfere in the American election, when every U.S. government agency said otherwise?

 

Do you believe all the agencies were in the tank for Hillary?

 

Why did Trump refuse to answer Mueller's questions?

 

Why did Trump refuse to implement the cash from Congress designed to go to the states for election security in 2020?

 

Do you see a pattern? Coincidences?

I think we should ask President Trump why he was guilty of fake collusion when he gets out of fake jail.  That will clear up all fake haziness.

 

I'll answer your side questions, though they are very well crafted and exceptionally difficult to answer.  With your permission, I'll ask one or two follow up questions so you can help me help you help me:

 

1.  I think your President Trump did not want an English language translator in the room. 

  •  Follow up question #1:  Has every president that ever met with a foreign leader had an English language translator in the room?  
  • Follow up question #2:  Was a law broken when the President chose not to have a translator present, and if so, when can we expect Impeachment proceedings to begin?

2. I think your President is and was exceptionally concerned about the incalculable damage done to his reputation and administration perpetrated by the democrat leadership and uninformed liberal voters who alleged he was guilty of treason.   I think the democrat leadership and uninformed liberal voters created a situation that was very dangerous to the president personally, and to his family as well.  

  • Follow up question #3:  How did the dem leadership and the mainstream media so badly misread the Russian collusion issue that after an exhaustive investigations  by partisan political prosecutors, with an unlimited budget and unrestricted powers that they were unable to provide any usable information re: Trump and Russia collusion?
  • Follow up question #4:  Your President Trump told you early, and often that the narrative that he was a traitor to his country and that he colluded with Russia to impact the outcome of the election was a hoax, that the Steele dossier was rubbish, and that actors in the Obama admin and dem leadership lied, cheated and surveilled members of his campaign.  Since then, all of that has come to pass.  How does that make you feel? 

3.  I believe virtually all establishment politicians and Washington agencies were in the bag for Hillary Clinton, including DOJ, FBI, most career government lifers, and GOP polis, including Lindsay Graham.  That changed as he gained critical mass in the race to the White House, but seems to be a matter of public record.  

 

4.  I think your President Trump understands his rights as an American citizen, knew the collusion narrative really only appealed to dimwits and simpletons, and that the FBI often focuses on process crimes and strong-arming to accomplish it's stated goal.   

  • Follow up question #4:  Why would an innocent man answer a series of questions on something that never happened, written by political adversaries with unlimited investigatory powers and a history of strong-arming witnesses?  

5.  Improper format, question is ambiguous. 

  • Follow up question # 5:  Are you suggesting your President acted illegally in this regard?  If so, when can we expect impeachment hearing to begin?

 

I see a pattern.  I saw it as Russia (they fooled you, chump), Stormy Avenatti (they fooled you again, chump), The Very Honorable Brett Kavanaugh nomination (you lost this one too, chump), Ukraniamania (yup, you were chumped again), and now, they have you defending China and getting ready to cast your vote for a guy with an inability to speak in full sentences who has an acknowledged history of inappropriate behavior and appears to be a sexual deviant who wants everyone to be judged by one set of rules while he plays by another.  The pattern is not your friend. 

 

 

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Seema Verma:

Premiums are 13 years and 7 year lows (she named what was what, but I missed it)
Ensuring inspectors are consistent.
Required nursing homes when there is an outbreak. (I can confirm this as my mother received two letters to date about my father's nursing home COVID-19 cases)
New guidance for coronavirus on nursing homes in February (this normally takes months and years)
New state grants for nursing homes (inspection, Congress finally provided the funding)
Overseeing the commission for coronavirus reopening in nursing homes (sounds like more than just COVID-19)

Lowering the price of insulin for Seniors (news to come)


 

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Press: (John Roberts) Flynn may have unintentionally mislead the VP?
Trump: Have to talk to the VP, but what they did to Flynn was a disgrace.
What happened to Flynn should never happen to a citizen.

Press: Will you pardon?
Trump: He's going to be exonerated.


Press: Bring him back to your administration?
Trump: I'd consider it!
Bringing up the son.
 


Press: In what capacity would you bring him back? (Flynn)
Trump: We will look.


Press: Coronavirus, your SIL "government response has been a great success story." Is that the right tone?
Trump: Beating on China. What Jared is talking about what we have done so far, except for PR which the press will not talk about...
Ventilators, ventilators, ventilators ... (I am gonna be drunk)
Praising Dr Birx, and how what has been done in a short period of time.
Very proud of the job we have done.

Over 6M tests.
 

 

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