The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[RiotAct]

50 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

... and vote in more dangerously incompetent politicians, of course!!!

[shoshin]

Deaths down but Hospitalizations starting to trend noticeably. I hope states stay open but I don’t think they will. 
 

 

 

 

Edited October 9, 2020 by shoshin

[Big Blitz]

9 of the top 15 states in new "cases!" all have deaths per million under 500...well under 500.

 

And 2 others right around 500.

 

Meaning the virus was never really there.  It's their first "wave."  

 

Virginia will be the last state to see their first "wave."

 

 

The other states that have higher "cases" but deaths per million well over 500 still are seeing way less death. 

Edited October 9, 2020 by Big Blitz

[spartacus]

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/did-who-just-accidentally-confirm-covid-no-more-dangerous-flu

 

At the session, Dr Michael Ryan, the WHO’s Head of Emergencies revealed that they believe roughly 10% of the world has been infected with Sars-Cov-2.

This is their “best estimate”, and a huge increase over the number of officially recognised cases (around 35 million).

Dr. Margaret Harris, a WHO spokeswoman, later confirmed the figure, stating it was based on the average results of all the broad seroprevalence studies done around the world.

As much as the WHO were attempting to spin this as a bad thing – Dr Ryan even said it means “the vast majority of the world remains at risk.” – it’s actually good news. And confirms, once more, that the virus is nothing like as deadly as everyone predicted.

The global population is roughly 7.8 billion people, if 10% have been infected that is 780 million cases. The global death toll currently attributed to Sars-Cov-2 infections is 1,061,539.

 

That’s an infection fatality rate of roughly or 0.14%.

Right in line with seasonal flu and the predictions of many experts from all around the world.

0.14% is over 24 times LOWER than the WHO’s “provisional figure” of 3.4% back in March. This figure was used in the models which were used to justify lockdowns and other draconian policies.

[SoCal Deek]

11 hours ago, spartacus said:

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/did-who-just-accidentally-confirm-covid-no-more-dangerous-flu

 

At the session, Dr Michael Ryan, the WHO’s Head of Emergencies revealed that they believe roughly 10% of the world has been infected with Sars-Cov-2.

This is their “best estimate”, and a huge increase over the number of officially recognised cases (around 35 million).

Dr. Margaret Harris, a WHO spokeswoman, later confirmed the figure, stating it was based on the average results of all the broad seroprevalence studies done around the world.

As much as the WHO were attempting to spin this as a bad thing – Dr Ryan even said it means “the vast majority of the world remains at risk.” – it’s actually good news. And confirms, once more, that the virus is nothing like as deadly as everyone predicted.

The global population is roughly 7.8 billion people, if 10% have been infected that is 780 million cases. The global death toll currently attributed to Sars-Cov-2 infections is 1,061,539.

 

That’s an infection fatality rate of roughly or 0.14%.

Right in line with seasonal flu and the predictions of many experts from all around the world.

0.14% is over 24 times LOWER than the WHO’s “provisional figure” of 3.4% back in March. This figure was used in the models which were used to justify lockdowns and other draconian policies.

This! Quoted here so that more people will read it. Thank you Spartacus.

[B-Man]

 

Sorry Spartacus......

 

 

[Joe Miner]

Did we lose Magox in this thread?

[Big Blitz]

Trump needed to treat this thing like it was Ebola times 1000x and travel everywhere in a haz mat suit and ordered everything shut down.  Come out everyday and say "we're all going to die."

 

Only then would we have been FULL open probably right around Easter.

 

 

Change my mind. 

[SoCal Deek]

42 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Trump needed to treat this thing like it was Ebola times 1000x and travel everywhere in a haz mat suit and ordered everything shut down.  Come out everyday and say "we're all going to die."

 

Only then would we have been FULL open probably right around Easter.

 

 

Change my mind. 

Not going to try to change your mind. Your comments show you didn’t bring it with you today.

[Big Blitz]

8 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Not going to try to change your mind. Your comments show you didn’t bring it with you today.

 

 

You know I was being facetious right.

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, Big Blitz said:

 

 

You know I was being facetious right.

Maybe....maybe not. This place has become a total sewer. 

[Big Blitz]

 

[spartacus]

7 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

lack of Vitamin D and zinc result in a weakened immune system

 

criminal that the world"health" organization is not promoting easy and cheap means for all people to fight the virus

 

 

Edited October 10, 2020 by spartacus
typo

[Chef Jim]

15 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Trump needed to treat this thing like it was Ebola times 1000x and travel everywhere in a haz mat suit and ordered everything shut down.  Come out everyday and say "we're all going to die."

 

Only then would we have been FULL open probably right around Easter.

 

 

Change my mind. 

And then all the lefties would have hailed him as the Great Pandemic Leader”. 
 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

On 10/6/2020 at 2:11 PM, BillsFanNC said:

The 2020 data on cardiovascular disease deaths will be interesting.  A disease that lays waste to 600k Americans year after year like clockwork could be significantly higher in 2020.

 

...good point......those with heart disease missed treatment, etc because of hospital limitations......bet the stress exacerbated conditions as well......BUT...2020 will actually be LOWER as heart related passings will be tabbed as "Covid-19 deaths".......you know THAT drill................

[Magox]

Life can get back to normal.  How?  Easy.

 

just get back to living life again.

 

 

[Magox]

21 hours ago, Joe Miner said:

Did we lose Magox in this thread?

 

My interest has waned.  I’ve come to the conclusion that this is the most overblown, mischaracterized story of my life.   I’m pissed that health experts have irresponsibly sold everyone on extreme lock downs, incessant desire for everyone to wear masks and all the other incredibly stupid panic that it has thrust upon society with the help of an incredibly dishonest media who continuously mislead their viewers.

 

We should be fully opening back up.  

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

6 minutes ago, Magox said:

Life can get back to normal.  How?  Easy.

 

just get back to living life again.

 

 

 

...EXACTLY......simply be prudent and take recommended precautions as well as mandated ones....no need to be a rebel.......a friend of mine picked up his freshman daughter from college with Covid-19......initial fears because she has severe asthma.....symptoms were minimal and NEVER had breathing issues.....Dad (age 55 and a workout warrior) contracted it from her.....quarantined for required 14 days (Health Dept checked DAILY) but mild symptoms dissipated by day 5.....capsule comment was, "if THIS is why we shut the country down, we royally screwed ourselves"......DIRECT from someone who had it......SMH............

[sabrecrazed]

13 hours ago, Magox said:

 

My interest has waned.  I’ve come to the conclusion that this is the most overblown, mischaracterized story of my life.   I’m pissed that health experts have irresponsibly sold everyone on extreme lock downs, incessant desire for everyone to wear masks and all the other incredibly stupid panic that it has thrust upon society with the help of an incredibly dishonest media who continuously mislead their viewers.

 

We should be fully opening back up.  

It's always been about control. 

[RiotAct]

13 hours ago, Magox said:

Life can get back to normal.  How?  Easy.

 

just get back to living life again.

 

 

::clutches pearls::

[TBBills]

You know a pandemic is over when people are more worried about Bills players getting covid than schools being reopened. 

 

All it took was football to get things back to normal.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

so do you think if Trump was deleted from the equation and we inserted Obama or Biden at the heml of managing the Covid-19 crisis, streams, rivers, tributaries and oceans would be overflowing with "a job well done" drool?...naw, not a chance.....political hypocrisy is non-existent of course....

[shoshin]

 

These are the numbers to watch. I see us regressing a month. Still only early in an upwards hospital/ICU trend and hopefully it won't continue. The last thing we need is more shutdowns. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 12, 2020 by shoshin

[Bakin]

 

Edited October 12, 2020 by Bakin

[spartacus]

32 minutes ago, shoshin said:

 

These are the numbers to watch. I see us regressing a month. Still only early in an upwards hospital/ICU trend and hopefully it won't continue. The last thing we need is more shutdowns. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

these numbers are no worse than the flu or common cold, if we actually tracked those items like we are obsessing over covid

treat those that reach the hospital and all is well

 

 

 

 

[Cinga]

10 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

so do you think if Trump was deleted from the equation and we inserted Obama or Biden at the heml of managing the Covid-19 crisis, streams, rivers, tributaries and oceans would be overflowing with "a job well done" drool?...naw, not a chance.....political hypocrisy is non-existent of course....

 

Heck, if they were in office during this Obama would probably have been awarded the Nobel in medicine back in January

[Dragoon]

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-level-cruelty-infects-population-202541793.html
 

im infected...with “cruelty.”

[Cinga]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/who-official-urges-world-leaders-to-stop-using-lockdowns-as-primary-method-against-ccp-virus_3534230.html?utm_source=newsnoeNC1&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking

 

Quote

 

“Just look at what’s happened to the tourism industry, for example in the Caribbean or in the Pacific, because people aren’t taking their holidays. Look what’s happened to smallholder farmers all over the world because their markets have got dented. Look what’s happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. Seems that we may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition because children are not getting meals at school and their parents, in poor families, are not able to afford it,” Nabarro said.

“This is a terrible, ghastly global catastrophe, actually,” he said. “And so we really do appeal to all world leaders: Stop using lockdown as your primary control method, develop better systems for doing it, work together and learn from each other, but remember—lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer.

Nabarro isn’t the only scientist opposing lockdowns. A number of medical or public health scientists and medical practitioners have signed the Great Barrington Declaration, which states that “current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health.”

 

 

[shoshin]

11 hours ago, spartacus said:

 

these numbers are no worse than the flu or common cold, if we actually tracked those items like we are obsessing over covid

treat those that reach the hospital and all is well

 

 

 

 

 

A rise in the fall is like the flu, yes, but this is a pathogen in addition to the flu and where this rise stops is the thing to watch. The reason there's such a push for people to get flu shots this year is that Covid bed needs PLUS flu bed needs is something we want to stay on top of.

 

I wonder if all the flu vaccine doubters have left in the recent cleansing of this place.   

Edited October 12, 2020 by shoshin

[spartacus]

57 minutes ago, shoshin said:

 

A rise in the fall is like the flu, yes, but this is a pathogen in addition to the flu and where this rise stops is the thing to watch. The reason there's such a push for people to get flu shots this year is that Covid bed needs PLUS flu bed needs is something we want to stay on top of.

 

I wonder if all the flu vaccine doubters have left in the recent cleansing of this place.   

if the medical community was so concerned about people's health, they would be pushing for ways to improve one's immune system to fight off any flu or virus.

vitamin C, D, zinc

healthy food and diet supporting the above

 

instead you get a steady diet of fear porn

People would not need to go to hospital if they were being treated properly and were not so fear ridden about doomsday scenarios that are not real

[SoCal Deek]

Yesterday, Sunday, only SIX states reported more than ten deaths they could attribute to Covid 19. Thats means FORTY FOUR states were in single digits or had zero deaths. Oh wait...that’s right...it was Sunday, so the coroners and health offices had the day off. I keep forgetting there’s no need to stress the system during an international pandemic. This has become a total joke.

[Big Blitz]

 

 

Janet is worse than Cuomo.  She makes Cuomo possible.  And there are millions of people like this.  

 

 

Looking so forward (probably by 2026) what new measures will be deemed necessary to keep the public "safe."  And the media will nod their head and play along. 

 

 

 

"I wonder if Janet is as stupid as to not care about her health. 

 

Does she go to the gym?

 

Does she eat natural and organic only? 

 

Does she drink?  Smoke?  

 

Does she eat red meat?  

 

If not, as Governor we can make her care."

 

 

---Democrats circa 2026

Edited October 12, 2020 by Big Blitz

[B-Man]

 

 

New CDC Report Shows Wearing Masks Didn't Help for July.

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

18 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

New CDC Report Shows Wearing Masks Didn't Help for July.

 

 

I heard the same coming from the WHO. Don’t kid yourselves. This is all a set up to so that Biden has some cover when he opens things up. He’ll then be able to say ‘he’s following the science’. 

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

I heard the same coming from the WHO. Don’t kid yourselves. This is all a set up so that Biden has some cover when he opens things up. He’ll then be able to say ‘he’s following the science’. 

 

[Big Blitz]

More proof masks don't work.....if this data said the opposite it would be all over the news.  But they're the enemy of the people so........

 

 

 

 

And btw what's happened in Minnesota is the result of the virus actually getting there and our increasing ability to test and test anyone (for some reason).

[B-Man]

 

 

The result...............

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

[shoshin]

You all seem to have a curious understanding of cause vs correlation. 

[realtruelove]

48 minutes ago, shoshin said:

You all seem to have a curious understanding of cause vs correlation. 

What ever happened to Magox?  You and he were excellent complimentary viewpoints on tracking trends with the virus.

[shoshin]

10 minutes ago, realtruelove said:

What ever happened to Magox?  You and he were excellent complimentary viewpoints on tracking trends with the virus.

He says he’s lost interest. A few posts above. There isn’t a lot to discuss at the moment. It’s leveled out. Little rise happening.