Buffalo_Gal Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Reality Check said: Sorry Deek, but you overestimate the quality of said "conversation" to begin with. Anyone who wants to take the shot when it becomes available should do so. I will wait and watch while this global social experiment plays out to its conclusion. I too will wait (however, I suspect our "freedoms" in blue states will only be restored with vaccine compliance), but it would be awesome if as a byproduct, they make advancements in a cure for the common cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I too will wait (however, I suspect our "freedoms" in blue states will only be restored with vaccine compliance), but it would be awesome if as a byproduct, they make advancements in a cure for the common cold. Prevention is worth a pound of cure, and that prevention lies with lifestyle and dietary changes and commitment to what works for you. Time will most certainly tell as we wait and watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, BeerLeagueHockey said: Not anymore, it's vaccine or be shut out of everything, you'll see. Which is insane... complete violation of people's rights, I'm sure there's a lot of people out there who would love to see this happen which is pathetic. If you want your vaccine take it and then proceed to f off.... don't push your health choices on others and be some mouthpiece for an industry most people know nothing about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Which is insane... complete violation of people's rights, I'm sure there's a lot of people out there who would love to see this happen which is pathetic. If you want your vaccine take it and then proceed to f off.... don't push your health choices on others and be some mouthpiece for an industry most people know nothing about Well said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, GG said: Is there a SARS-1 vaccine? Are you implying this is part of some global conspiracy? My point is they've had plenty of time to study SARS Covid-1 and that science is available for use. It's not disputable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I too will wait (however, I suspect our "freedoms" in blue states will only be restored with vaccine compliance), but it would be awesome if as a byproduct, they make advancements in a cure for the common cold. Don't hold your breath... the next time Allopathy comes up with a CURE for something will be the first! They love raking in billions of dollars on suppressing the expectorating of mucus with garbage chemicals stewed in artificial sugar and dyes to want to change that. Maybe the cure lies in not suppressing the expectorating of said mucus 10 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said: Are you implying this is part of some global conspiracy? My point is they've had plenty of time to study SARS Covid-1 and that science is available for use. It's not disputable. Even so you better believe the studying isn't to find a CURE... it's to find how to profit the most off of it. So technically a global conspiracy in criminal terms, perpetrated by the giants of industry... Edited September 25, 2020 by Sherlock Holmes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said: Are you implying this is part of some global conspiracy? My point is they've had plenty of time to study SARS Covid-1 and that science is available for use. It's not disputable. Do you know what gain of function research is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, Reality Check said: Do you know what gain of function research is? Yup. It's one of the litany of reasons I'm a libertarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, Alaska Darin said: Yup. It's one of the litany of reasons I'm a libertarian. What is your definition of libertarian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Reality Check said: What is your definition of libertarian? Great question! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, Reality Check said: What is your definition of libertarian? I should caveat that with "not a libertarian party member". Pretty standard. Small government at every level but especially federal. Individual liberty over the collective. I really don't wanna go down a rabbit hole in this thread because it's on a different topic. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziltoid Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Which is insane... complete violation of people's rights, I'm sure there's a lot of people out there who would love to see this happen which is pathetic. If you want your vaccine take it and then proceed to f off.... don't push your health choices on others and be some mouthpiece for an industry most people know nothing about Trust me, I'm right there with you. But the state gov'ts will pivot from CASES! to VACCINE! numbers and the compliance behind them. We just have to keep NYC closed until the VACCINE! numbers are better. Otherwise everyone will die. Watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) Added: Perhaps a stay in a NY nursing home is warranted ? Edited September 25, 2020 by B-Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, BeerLeagueHockey said: Trust me, I'm right there with you. But the state gov'ts will pivot from CASES! to VACCINE! numbers and the compliance behind them. We just have to keep NYC closed until the VACCINE! numbers are better. Otherwise everyone will die. Watch. I know there are those that definitely want to push for this... and it certainly seems headed that way but we cannot let it become reality... Just curious, for those that are proponents of this kind of madness, how do you enforce it? How do say retail stores identify fairly who has and doesn't have a vaccine and then keep those who don't from entering their stores without being accused of profiling? How do big venues like our stadium? Do we really need Doctors notes every time we go into anywhere?!?! What a nightmare that becomes, also who is to say somebody MUST visit an Allopathic doctor???!! See where this is going? I can see where ah, simple solution for everybody, just have a chip comes up real quick... Edited September 25, 2020 by Sherlock Holmes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 Quote Former Holyoke Soldiers' Home Superintendent Bennett Walsh and former Medical Director Dr. David Clinton were indicted by a grand jury on charges stemming from their decision in March to combine two dementia units, packing residents who were COVID-19 positive into the same space as those with no symptoms, Healey said. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I too will wait (however, I suspect our "freedoms" in blue states will only be restored with vaccine compliance), but it would be awesome if as a byproduct, they make advancements in a cure for the common cold. There is zero chance I take a vaccine unless my town looks like something out of "Outbreak." My concern, however, is to your parenthetical point that if you don't get the vaccine, you won't be able to (fill in the blank; fly, dine out, go to concerns, sporting events, etc.). My neighbor mentioned it to me one night over drinks, and I just kind of laughed it off, but the more I hear the vaccine discussion, the less I'm laughing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: There is zero chance I take a vaccine unless my town looks like something out of "Outbreak." My concern, however, is to your parenthetical point that if you don't get the vaccine, you won't be able to (fill in the blank; fly, dine out, go to concerns, sporting events, etc.). My neighbor mentioned it to me one night over drinks, and I just kind of laughed it off, but the more I hear the vaccine discussion, the less I'm laughing. Certificate of vaccination I D - est. 2019 ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Researchers find wide variance in accuracy of COVID-19 antibody tests. “The 10 tests evaluated in the study proved between 61% and 87% accurate at correctly identifying blood samples as positive for antibodies for the new coronavirus, the data showed. The same tests were between 82% and 100% accurate at identifying samples negative for antibodies, the researchers said.” To be fair, most medical tests are a lot less accurate than people tend to assume. FINALLY: Prominent D.C. Church Becomes First to Sue Over Mayor Muriel Bowser’s Hypocritical Worship Restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Alaska Darin said: Are you implying this is part of some global conspiracy? My point is they've had plenty of time to study SARS Covid-1 and that science is available for use. It's not disputable. When does questioning an aggressive timeline spill over into a global conspiracy? SARS-1, H1N1, Ebola have been around for years, yet there has been no vaccine developed despite their nearly equal mortality trends. I don't know if the scientific community is convinced that these three are so dormant as not to need an effective vaccine. That's why I find the timeline to be very aggressive for a novel coronavirus - yes 80% of the traits may be shared with prior viruses, but isn't that remaining 20% the most complex part to figure out, and to do that in a few months should raise questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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plenzmd1 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, GG said: When does questioning an aggressive timeline spill over into a global conspiracy? SARS-1, H1N1, Ebola have been around for years, yet there has been no vaccine developed despite their nearly equal mortality trends. I don't know if the scientific community is convinced that these three are so dormant as not to need an effective vaccine. That's why I find the timeline to be very aggressive for a novel coronavirus - yes 80% of the traits may be shared with prior viruses, but isn't that remaining 20% the most complex part to figure out, and to do that in a few months should raise questions. Maybe i am misunderstanding the science, but Moderna had this thing genetic makeup identified in less than 24 hrs i think, and the mRNA approach is new...at least i think that is why this is light years ahead of any other vaccine process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 42 minutes ago, GG said: When does questioning an aggressive timeline spill over into a global conspiracy? SARS-1, H1N1, Ebola have been around for years, yet there has been no vaccine developed despite their nearly equal mortality trends. I don't know if the scientific community is convinced that these three are so dormant as not to need an effective vaccine. That's why I find the timeline to be very aggressive for a novel coronavirus - yes 80% of the traits may be shared with prior viruses, but isn't that remaining 20% the most complex part to figure out, and to do that in a few months should raise questions. I'd guess one of the answers would be because they fizzled out and stopped impacting the west. Ebola was never really an issue here, H1N1 died out and SARS 1 as well since they were not nearly as contagious. That doesn't mean i completely discredit your theory by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziltoid Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: These are your fellow Idahoians @IDBillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Finally, word is getting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Shots fired. (deserved) 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 3 hours ago, BeerLeagueHockey said: These are your fellow Idahoians @IDBillzFan Not a great look, regardless of where it is. I suspect that's probably near Boise because other than the police, no one else was carrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziltoid Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 hours ago, IDBillzFan said: Not a great look, regardless of where it is. I suspect that's probably near Boise because other than the police, no one else was carrying. It said Moscow, ID. I guess they were making a point, but yes real bad optics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Told you this 5 months ago. A Democrat POTUS will call everything under the sun a public health crisis and you just go ahead and use your imagination. They can't be allowed anywhere near power. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Lockdowns and extreme social distancing measures kill. More people under the age of 50 have died as a result these policies than the virus itself. The worst global public health policy response of our life times. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Just a few more weeks of this nonsense and we can all go back to our lives. The first Wednesday in November can’t come soon enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Magox said: Lockdowns and extreme social distancing measures kill. More people under the age of 50 have died as a result these policies than the virus itself. The worst global public health policy response of our life times. Consistent with anecdotal stories my wife has been seeing at her pediatric practice. Teens are really, really struggling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 ...uh oh....cue up the MSM attack dawgs.....BUT let's follow the political capital transition from Covid-19 (crickets) to "peaceful protests (crickets-NEVER were; honorable mention to BLM FRAUD)" to KamalaVirus (crickets) and now to "SCOTUS Barretitis debunking attacks"..... Florida Gov. DeSantis lifts major restrictions on restaurants, other businesses, in push to boost economy The order allows restaurants to immediately reopen at full capacity By Julia Musto | Fox News Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis announced on Friday that he is lifting major coronavirus-era restrictions on restaurants and other businesses in a push to boost the state's economy. The Republican governor's move comes even as he acknowledged that the pandemic was far from over. “We’re not closing anything going forward,” he told reporters, insisting that the state is prepared if infections climb once again. Florida has long been a COVID-19 hot spot, with almost 700,000 people infected by the virus since the pandemic gripped the nation in March. According to data from the Florida Department of Health, nearly 14,000 Floridians have already died. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-gov-desantis-lifts-major-restrictions-on-restaurants-other-businesses-in-push-to-boost-economy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 The Super Bowl is in Tampa Bay in Feb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 15 hours ago, BeerLeagueHockey said: It said Moscow, ID. I guess they were making a point, but yes real bad optics. That's actually much closer to me, so I'm surprised LE was arresting people. On the other hand, did you noticed what WASN'T happening when people were being arrested? No one resisted. It's almost like, if you don't resist the cops and if you don't try to stab or shoot or fight them, they're not the giant group of fascist terrorists some people pretend they are. Weird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: That's actually much closer to me, so I'm surprised LE was arresting people. On the other hand, did you noticed what WASN'T happening when people were being arrested? No one resisted. It's almost like, if you don't resist the cops and if you don't try to stab or shoot or fight them, they're not the giant group of fascist terrorists some people pretend they are. Weird. ....the US "BLM (bowel) Movement" is a fraud....their own (sad) "leader" said "riots are a form of reparations"...WTF?...who owes them anything?....it's "The Gimme Gang" at its finest hour.....redefining "cash 'n carry" as "ain't got no cash but I'm gonna carry".....this scum gives honorable blacks a bad name and forces them to be unjustifiably included in the movement based SOLELY on skin color....much like all Asian Americans are Chinese spies or Covid-19 spreaders.....Antifa should have been crushed long ago ISIS style........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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