The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[SoCal Deek]

22 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Pathetic - how anyone can justify extending the dictator in chief is not American 

 

 

 

What’s really funny is how you criticize him for dictating too much ...but...also for not dictating enough on Covid 19. This dictator business is more complicated than anyone thought

PS: You’re in a Cult! 😂

[BillStime]

16 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

What’s really funny is how you criticize him for dictating too much ...but...also for not dictating enough on Covid 19. This dictator business is more complicated than anyone thought

PS: You’re in a Cult! 😂

Yea it’s hilarious bro - freakn hilarious. We have a complete nut job who has now dictated he has zero intention of a peaceful handoff should he lose. 
 

And you’re ok with it.

 

Putin loves you champ 

 

Hope you enjoyed America while it lasted

[Magox]

3 hours ago, shoshin said:

“Stockholm has seen a clear increase recently, across all age groups,” chief epidemiologist Anders Tegnell said on a press conference. “We are discussing with Stockholm whether we need some additional possibility to take measures to reduce transmission.”

just Sweden’s chief epidemiologist. It seems wholly unnecessary but their current restrictions seems to have things under control.  
 

“Chief epidemiologist Anders Tegnell said on a press conference. “We are discussing with Stockholm whether we need some additional possibility to take measures to reduce transmission.”

 

So you decided to quote a post to contradict what you said and to own yourself?

 

Ok 

[shoshin]

28 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

So you decided to quote a post to contradict what you said and to own yourself?

 

Ok 

 

What do you think a restriction is if not a shut/lockdown? If you tell me to limit my business capacity to 50%, you are shutting down part of my business. 

 

 

1 hour ago, GG said:

 

Show me where he's discussing a lockdown.     Even in UK, where everyone is pushing panic porn is doing nothing of the sort and is just curtailing pub hours, because apparently people have looser standards later in the evening after a few pints.  Who would have guessed?

 

Locking down is in many flavors. Would you say that CA is locked down? I would. But restaurants can do takeout. I would say PA is in lockdown but restaurants can have 50% capacity in some places. 

 

Sweden already has rules in places, and also many recommendations (that people are following by and large). If you restrict people's behavior, you're locking them out of things. It ain't rocket science but if you want to dicker on how we use "lockdowns," have at it. Sweden is considering "additional freedom-restrictions." 

Edited September 24, 2020 by shoshin

[Gary M]

40 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Yea it’s hilarious bro - freakn hilarious. We have a complete nut job who has now dictated he has zero intention of a peaceful handoff should he lose. 
 

 

Link please

[Magox]

4 minutes ago, shoshin said:

 

What do you think a restriction is if not a shut/lockdown? If you tell me to limit my business capacity to 50%, you are shutting down part of my business. 

 

 

 

Locking down is in many flavors. Would you say that CA is locked down? I would. But restaurants can do takeout. I would say PA is in lockdown but restaurants can have 50% capacity in some places. 

 

Sweden already has rules in places, and also many recommendations (that people are following by and large). If you restrict people's behavior, you're locking them out of things. It ain't rocket science but if you want to dicker on how we use "lockdowns," have at it. Sweden is considering "additional freedom-restrictions." 

 

Stop being a hard head and just admit that your wording wasn't correct.  Lock downs means that things are shut down and people are not able to go out except for necessary items.

 

"Sweden may consider additional social distancing measures" 

 

That would more accurately describe "lock downs"

[GG]

7 minutes ago, shoshin said:

 

What do you think a restriction is if not a shut/lockdown? If you tell me to limit my business capacity to 50%, you are shutting down part of my business. 

 

 

 

Locking down is in many flavors. Would you say that CA is locked down? I would. But restaurants can do takeout. I would say PA is in lockdown but restaurants can have 50% capacity in some places. 

 

Sweden already has rules in places, and also many recommendations (that people are following by and large). If you restrict people's behavior, you're locking them out of things. It ain't rocket science but if you want to dicker on how we use "lockdowns," have at it. Sweden is considering "additional freedom-restrictions." 

 

Are you seriously trying to make this argument?

 

Restriction = Closing pubs 1 hr earlier

Lockdown = Not allowing any activity at all

[Alaska Darin]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

What’s really funny is how you criticize him for dictating too much ...but...also for not dictating enough on Covid 19. This dictator business is more complicated than anyone thought

PS: You’re in a Cult! 😂

Please stop feeding the dumb animals.

[WEATHER DOT COM]

10 minutes ago, Magox said:

Lock downs means that things are shut down and people are not able to go out except for necessary items.

 

So nobody in the United States was ever locked down?

 

lol

[GG]

Just now, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

So nobody in the United States was ever locked down?

 

lol

 

 You don't consider tristate NY part of USA?

[WEATHER DOT COM]

 

Just now, GG said:

 

 You don't consider tristate NY part of USA?

 

of course it is

 

12 minutes ago, Magox said:

Lock downs means that things are shut down and people are not able to go out except for necessary items

 

People in the tri-state area did not ever meet the above criteria.

 

Folks have always been free to leave their homes. 

[ALF]

Israel enters full 16-day lockdown on Friday

 

The government approved at dawn on Thursday, Sept. 24, a full national lockdown to rein in the soaring coronavirus contagion starting Friday, Sept. 25 up to Oct.11.

 

 Closure is to be universally applied, excepting only for people employed in essential services. The extreme measure, advocated by PM Binyamin Netanyahu when the number of new cases a day climbed past 7,000 and serious cases to 657, was finally endorsed by Defense Minister Benny Gantz who acknowledged there was no option. Overnight, there were another 10 deaths raising the total to 1,375.

 

In the end, prayer services and demonstrations alike are be restricted alike to 20 participants outdoors. Both chief rabbis ordered the closure of synagogues even on Yom Kippur the holiest day of the Jewish year, as well as the subsequent Succoth festival, for the sake of saving lives.

 

Anti-government protesters will be confined like the rest of the population to within 1km of their homes, thereby breaking up the unruly, mass outbreaks taking place weekly outside the prime minister’s residence in Jerusalem.

 

The international airport will be closed to outgoing flights. Food stores and pharmacies will stay open, while all other retail trade is shuttered like the schools. Public transport will be limited.

 

 After 16 days, the state of covid-19 infection will be assessed to determine if the lockdown is to be extended or lightened in careful stages,

 

https://www.debka.com/israel-enters-full-16-day-lockdown-on-friday/

[GG]

8 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

 

of course it is

 

 

People in the tri-state area did not ever meet the above criteria.

 

Folks have always been free to leave their homes. 

 

People were free to leave, but the official guidance was to stay inside, except for necessary items.  But you knew that.

 

Quote

 

In an interview on MSNBC, Murphy said New Jersey will likely be under strict social-distancing orders to fight the spread of the coronavirus for at least the rest of April and all of May before restrictions might begin to be pulled back and some semblance of normalcy returns to day-to-day living.

..

 

Schools and non-essential businesses have been closed for about a month in state as officials continue to urge people to stay home and remain at least 6 feet apart when they must leave their homes.

 

 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

3 minutes ago, GG said:

 

People were free to leave, but the official guidance was to stay inside, except for necessary items.  But you knew that.

 

 

So there wasn’t a lockdown then per the definition of Magox? Thanks again for confirming 

[GG]

1 minute ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

So there wasn’t a lockdown then per the definition of Magox? Thanks again for confirming 

 

Uhm, things were shut down and people did not go out except for necessities.  I take it you were here in late March to prove there wasn't a lockdown?

[WEATHER DOT COM]

2 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Uhm, things were shut down and people did not go out except for necessities.  I take it you were here in late March to prove there wasn't a lockdown?

 

Some people chose to go out for things other than necessities., therefore it was not a lockdown per the definition of Magox.

 

As you said, 5G

 

10 minutes ago, GG said:

People were free to leave

 

 

6 minutes ago, GG said:

late March

 

https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/photos-show-nyc-parks-still-bustling-during-global-pandemic

 

March 28, 2020 (late March)

 

 

March 27th (Also late March)

 

 

There are 12 more photos in the link of NYC in late March.

[meazza]

2 hours ago, GG said:

 

Show me where he's discussing a lockdown.     Even in UK, where everyone is pushing panic porn is doing nothing of the sort and is just curtailing pub hours, because apparently people have looser standards later in the evening during lunchour  after a few pints.  Who would have guessed?

FIFY

Edited September 24, 2020 by meazza

[GG]

3 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

Some people chose to go out for things other than necessities., therefore it was not a lockdown per the definition of Magox.

 

As you said, 5G

 

 

 

Magox's definition - Lock downs means that things are shut down and people are not able to go out except for necessary items.

 

NJ shut nearly everything down, and governor issued an order for people to stay inside, other than to get necessary items.  Why are you even arguing this?

[WEATHER DOT COM]

2 minutes ago, GG said:

Magox's definition - Lock downs means that things are shut down and people are not able to go out except for necessary items.

 

NJ shut nearly everything down, and governor issued an order for people to stay inside, other than to get necessary items.  Why are you even arguing this?

 

Lock downs means that things are shut down and people are not able to go out except for necessary items.

 

What is in your link...

 

Don’t expect the near lockdown....

 

 

In an interview on MSNBC, Murphy said New Jersey will likely be under strict social-distancing orders to fight the spread of the coronavirus for at least the rest of April and all of May before restrictions might begin to be pulled back and some semblance of normalcy returns to day-to-day living.

“I personally think in the warmer weather, we could begin to find our footing, assuming again that we’ve got the health care infrastructure, especially broad-scale testing, that we’re going to need to give us that confidence,” Murphy said. “I think this is a June or July much better reality if we keep doing our part, especially stay at home right now."

Schools and non-essential businesses have been closed for about a month in state as officials continue to urge people to stay home and remain at least 6 feet apart when they must leave their homes.

 

NOT ABLE TO GO OUT is not the same as officials urging people to stay home.

[GG]

7 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

Lock downs means that things are shut down and people are not able to go out except for necessary items.

 

What is in your link...

 

Don’t expect the near lockdown....

 

 

In an interview on MSNBC, Murphy said New Jersey will likely be under strict social-distancing orders to fight the spread of the coronavirus for at least the rest of April and all of May before restrictions might begin to be pulled back and some semblance of normalcy returns to day-to-day living.

“I personally think in the warmer weather, we could begin to find our footing, assuming again that we’ve got the health care infrastructure, especially broad-scale testing, that we’re going to need to give us that confidence,” Murphy said. “I think this is a June or July much better reality if we keep doing our part, especially stay at home right now."

Schools and non-essential businesses have been closed for about a month in state as officials continue to urge people to stay home and remain at least 6 feet apart when they must leave their homes.

 

NOT ABLE TO GO OUT is not the same as officials urging people to stay home.

 

That was an April article discussing the extension of a lockdown ordered in March.  Do you enjoy getting clubbed in the head by facts?

 

Murphy orders N.J. residents to stay home, closes non-essential retail businesses in state lockdown to fight Coronavirus

Gov. Phil Murphy on Saturday announced he’s putting New Jersey into near-lockdown mode to combat the spread of the coronavirus, ordering nearly all of the state’s 9 million residents to stay at home and mandating that non-essential retail businesses be closed until further notice.

 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

Link to this "near-lockdown" order?

[GG]

Just now, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

Link to this "near-lockdown" order?

 

Usually I'd tell you to do your on homework Sue, but it's too enjoyable to club you in the head with facts.

 

Enjoy the reading

 

2. All New Jersey residents shall remain home or at their place of residence unless they are 1) obtaining goods or services from essential retail businesses, as described in Paragraph 6; 2) obtaining takeout food or beverages from restaurants, other dining establishments, or food courts, pursuant to Paragraph 8; 3) seeking medical attention, essential social services, or assistance from law enforcement or emergency services; 4) visiting family or other individuals with whom the resident has a close personal relationship, such as those for whom the individual is a caretaker or romantic partner; 5) reporting to, or performing, their job; 6) walking, running, operating a wheelchair, or engaging in outdoor activities with immediate family members, caretakers, household members, or romantic partners while following best social distancing practices with other individuals, including staying six feet apart; 7) leaving the home for an educational, religious, or political reason; 😎 leaving because of a reasonable fear for his or her health or safety; or 9) leaving at the direction of law enforcement or other government agency.

 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

1 minute ago, GG said:

 

Usually I'd tell you to do your on homework Sue, but it's too enjoyable to club you in the head with facts.

 

Enjoy the reading

 

2. All New Jersey residents shall remain home or at their place of residence unless they are 1) obtaining goods or services from essential retail businesses, as described in Paragraph 6; 2) obtaining takeout food or beverages from restaurants, other dining establishments, or food courts, pursuant to Paragraph 8; 3) seeking medical attention, essential social services, or assistance from law enforcement or emergency services; 4) visiting family or other individuals with whom the resident has a close personal relationship, such as those for whom the individual is a caretaker or romantic partner; 5) reporting to, or performing, their job; 6) walking, running, operating a wheelchair, or engaging in outdoor activities with immediate family members, caretakers, household members, or romantic partners while following best social distancing practices with other individuals, including staying six feet apart; 7) leaving the home for an educational, religious, or political reason; 😎 leaving because of a reasonable fear for his or her health or safety; or 9) leaving at the direction of law enforcement or other government agency.

 

 

Did you forget to read everything after unless?

 

(Nobody was locked down per Magox's definition)

 

here it is as a reminder - Lock downs means that things are shut down and people are not able to go out except for necessary items.

Edited September 24, 2020 by wAcKy ZeBrA

[GG]

Just now, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

Don't worry, I found it. Here's the section that matters.

 

https://nj.gov/infobank/eo/056murphy/pdf/EO-107.pdf

 

2. All New Jersey residents shall remain home or at their place of residence unless they are 1) obtaining goods or services from essential retail businesses, as described in Paragraph 6; 2) obtaining takeout food or beverages from restaurants, other dining establishments, or food courts, pursuant to Paragraph 8; 3) seeking medical attention, essential social services, or assistance from law enforcement or emergency services; 4) visiting family or other individuals with whom the resident has a close personal relationship, such as those for whom the individual is a caretaker or romantic partner; 5) reporting to, or performing, their job; 6) walking, running, operating a wheelchair, or engaging in outdoor activities with immediate family members, caretakers, household members, or romantic partners while following best social distancing practices with other individuals, including staying six feet apart; 7) leaving the home for an educational, religious, or political reason; 😎 leaving because of a reasonable fear for his or her health or safety; or 9) leaving at the direction of law enforcement or other government agency.

 

aka

 

You're not locked down per Magox's definition. 

 

Quite, the turnaround.  

 

There was no lockdown

Ok, the lockdown order doesn't fit a broad definition,

Show me the lockdown order

No, not that lockdown order, the one that shows the lockdown order

OK, the real lockdown order is not really a lockdown order, because it doesn't fit my interpretation of the lockdown order

 

Does that summarize your position?

 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

1 minute ago, GG said:

Does that summarize your position?

 

 

 

My position is nobody in the United States fully locked down per  the definition below

 

Lock downs means that things are shut down and people are not able to go out except for necessary items

[B-Man]

A Church That Endured the Spanish Flu Sues D.C.’s Mayor Over ‘Selective’ Pandemic Persecution

 

 

 

 

[GG]

7 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

 

My position is nobody in the United States fully locked down per  the definition below

 

Lock downs means that things are shut down and people are not able to go out except for necessary items

 

No, your position is that you take a different interpretation of what "necessary" means.  For most functioning adults, NJ was in a true lockdown in March.

[WEATHER DOT COM]

20 minutes ago, GG said:

 

No, your position is that you take a different interpretation of what "necessary" means.  For most functioning adults, NJ was in a true lockdown in March.

 

lol

 

You are entering Rhino territory. Have a good day

[B-Man]

 

 

TYRANNY IMPOSED FOR THE GOOD OF ITS VICTIMS: 

 

Ohio Woman Arrested and Tased For Not Wearing a Mask at Son’s Outdoor Football Game.

 

 

 

 

[ziltoid]

27 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

TYRANNY IMPOSED FOR THE GOOD OF ITS VICTIMS: 

 

Ohio Woman Arrested and Tased For Not Wearing a Mask at Son’s Outdoor Football Game.

 

 

 

 

Everyone eating inside at a restaurant would like a word with the rule makers here.  If you're sitting you can't catch or spread it.  It's only when you stand up, duh.

Edited September 24, 2020 by BeerLeagueHockey

[B-Man]

 

Marriott CEO Admits Hotels are Engaging in ‘Hygiene Theater,’ Again Praises Totalitarian Measures. 

 

“It’s communicating to folks we care about what you feel and want you to stop and think about if you’re having any symptoms, and we also want to communicate to you that you’re now entering a place in which we’ve got protocols in place to protect you and others in the environment.”

 

 

 

It’s all about the feelz.

 

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

5 hours ago, GG said:

 

Uhm, things were shut down and people did not go out except for necessities.  I take it you were here in late March to prove there wasn't a lockdown?

My brother and his wife have not left their house since March....for ANYTHING 

[GG]

7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

My brother and his wife have not left their house since March....for ANYTHING 

 

Now there's obedience.

[keepthefaith]

8 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

My brother and his wife have not left their house since March....for ANYTHING 

 

We know some that have behaved similarly and they are not at risk people at all. 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, keepthefaith said:

We know some that have behaved similarly and they are not at risk people at all. 

 

We live in LA and thus the city has been shuttered most of that time compared to other cities/states. The hilarious bit for our household is that my significant other is not at risk under any definition (under 35, fit, no pre-existing conditions or comorbidities) yet she refuses to go into any stores or do anything "risky" (other than nightly/daily walks with neighborhood friends -- masked up of course). However, she has NO problem sending me out to do all the "risky" stuff even though I'm actually at risk (immuno-suppressed, no other comorbidities though)  

 

But I know better than to ask, "shouldn't you be the one to do this?"

 

[SoCal Deek]

6 minutes ago, GG said:

 

Now there's obedience.

He works for Google and she is a 100% nutcase!

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

He works for Google and she is a 100% nutcase!

 

That makes sense.  

[Alaska Darin]

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

We live in LA and thus the city has been shuttered most of that time compared to other cities/states. The hilarious bit for our household is that my significant other is not at risk under any definition (under 35, fit, no pre-existing conditions or comorbidities) yet she refuses to go into any stores or do anything "risky" (other than nightly/daily walks with neighborhood friends -- masked up of course). However, she has NO problem sending me out to do all the "risky" stuff even though I'm actually at risk (immuno-suppressed, no other comorbidities though)  

 

But I know better than to ask, "shouldn't you be the one to do this?"

 

#Feminism

[SoCal Deek]

4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

That makes sense.  

Actually it doesn't. My lame arse little brother can't even bother to visit with his aging FATHER during all of this! Shameful.

[Deranged Rhino]

6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Actually it doesn't. My lame arse little brother can't even bother to visit with his aging FATHER during all of this! Shameful.

 

No, that's very sad and I'm sorry to hear it. I only meant that someone who works for Google having that kind of fear/obedience makes sense.