Hedge Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) There are quite a few of these types of videos out there, where ill people are being locked in their own homes by the government (and if/when they die there is great speculation that they are never counted in the death statistics): Edited February 6, 2020 by Hedge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Hedge said: ... There are quite a few of these types of videos out there, where ill people are being locked in their own homes by the government (and if/when they die there is great speculation that they are never counted in the death statistics): ... i don't know about the veracity of this. the doors open inward, affixing a lock to the outside of them is not really going to stop them from opening. additionally, did they lock the windows and install shatterproof glass? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 CORONAVIRUS UPDATE: Newborn becomes youngest person diagnosed with coronavirus as infections near 30K. More Princess cruise ship passengers have coronavirus. Russia Blocks OPEC Response to Coronavirus: The rejection of the Saudi plan is a setback for the OPEC-Moscow alliance. Russia can’t afford to cut production. Thanks, frackers! Coronavirus cases in US likely to rise but ‘no reason for considerable anxiety,’ says NIH Director Francis Collins. We’ll know if he’s right in a couple of weeks. All 645 Indian evacuees from Wuhan tested negative. Record 73 dead in China in 24 hours as death toll rises to more than 560. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 This can't be a good omen.... https://nypost.com/2020/02/06/li-wenliang-chinese-doctor-who-sounded-alarm-on-coronavirus-dead-from-disease-at-34/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 33 minutes ago, Foxx said: i don't know about the veracity of this. the doors open inward, affixing a lock to the outside of them is not really going to stop them from opening. additionally, did they lock the windows and install shatterproof glass? I had the same questions as you. As you noted, yes, it can be seen that the door opens inwards. When chained, however, it's only going to open inward as far as the give of the chain allows (unless the door handles get broken off), which in this case would not even be enough to get a small dog through. Are there other points of egress from the structure that haven't been impeded? Quite possibly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Hedge said: I had the same questions as you. As you noted, yes, it can be seen that the door opens inwards. When chained, however, it's only going to open inward as far as the give of the chain allows (unless the door handles get broken off), which in this case would not even be enough to get a small dog through. Are there other points of egress from the structure that haven't been impeded? Quite possibly. agreed. my only point here really is that i'm quite sure there are other avenues of exit. not to mention, that if one was really ingenuous, they would simply pop the hinge pins and the door is easily removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: This can't be a good omen.... https://nypost.com/2020/02/06/li-wenliang-chinese-doctor-who-sounded-alarm-on-coronavirus-dead-from-disease-at-34/ Surprised the party didn't kill him first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 HMM: Doctor who sounded alarm on coronavirus not dead despite conflicting reports, hospital claims. Well, stay tuned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I have been on a cruise ship for the last 3+ weeks. When we disembarked in Sydney, the ship took over an extra hour to clear. We did an “ut oh” when we saw the white suit and masked inspectors on our floor on our way out. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I have been on a cruise ship for the last 3+ weeks. When we disembarked in Sydney, the ship took over an extra hour to clear. We did an “ut oh” when we saw the white suit and masked inspectors on our floor on our way out. Was the cruise supposed to be 3+ weeks long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Interesting... https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/rumours-swirl-after-president-xi-21445247 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Doc said: Was the cruise supposed to be 3+ weeks long? Yes. We were not quarantined. I just found it interesting that in light of those ships in Japan being on lockdown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 @Buffalo_Gal perhaps this was cause for your, 'delay' disembarking. Coronavirus fears trigger biosecurity and border operation as Chinese men try to enter Australia by boat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Cruise ship docks in NJ. Passengers to be tested for corona virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 11 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Yes. We were not quarantined. I just found it interesting that in light of those ships in Japan being on lockdown. I hear the 3 hour cruise go on, and on, and on ...................... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 18 hours ago, B-Man said: HMM: Doctor who sounded alarm on coronavirus not dead despite conflicting reports, hospital claims. Well, stay tuned. Fake News, unfortunately.... https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-doctor-who-issued-early-warning-on-virus-dies-11581019816 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 China grows isolated as airlines cancel more than 50,000 flights amid coronavirus epidemic. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Foxx said: @Buffalo_Gal perhaps this was cause for your, 'delay' disembarking. Coronavirus fears trigger biosecurity and border operation as Chinese men try to enter Australia by boat Australia has insanely tough biosecurity and border security laws. Thanks for the article! Edited February 7, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 If this is true, it explains why they locked down so many people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Are they cremating everyone no matter the cause of death? A quick search shows that about half of all deaths result in cremation in normal times. Another quick search shows that about 50,000 people die each year in NYC. That’s an average of 135/day. NY is a little more than half the size of Wuhan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 https://healthvigil.com/flu-season-deaths-us-worlswide/ Flu season deaths in the Unite States More than 200,000 people are hospitalized each year in the United States for the flu illness and its complications and between 3,000 and 49,000 people die each year from the flu. The number of flu deaths every year varies. For example, The average number of flu deaths during the 1990s was 36,000. Average number over a longer time frame from 1976 to 2007 was 23,607 deaths. If you take the number of deaths year wise, you will find a vast variation with a low of 3,349 deaths during the flu season of 1986-87 to a high of 48,614 in 2003-04. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) And these are just the official numbers being reported, which are more than likely quite inaccurate. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The cruise from hell continues: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------ But it's no worse than the seasonal flu...of which you can actually make a proactive choice to protect yourself from getting in the first place (unless the strains put into the vaccine turn out to be wrong...which has happened before). It's on top of the seasonal flu, it's not replacing it. And pay no heed to the fact that you are comparing a full year of US flu statistics (which are more than likely fully and accurately reported) to Chinese government statistics which are widely thought to grossly understate the infections and deaths and **these numbers all occurred in basically just 3 weeks**. Seasonal flu's are usually directly responsible for travel bans and for locking down major cities that house millions of people, right? Edited February 10, 2020 by Hedge 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Hedge said: And these are just the official numbers being reported, which are more than likely quite inaccurate. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The cruise from hell continues: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------ But it's no worse than the seasonal flu...of which you can actually make a proactive choice to protect yourself from getting in the first place (unless the strains put into the vaccine turn out to be wrong...which has happened before). It's on top of the seasonal flu, it's not replacing it. And pay no heed to the fact that you are comparing a full year of US flu statistics (which are more than likely fully and accurately reported) to Chinese government statistics which are widely thought to grossly understate the infections and deaths and **these numbers all occurred in basically just 3 weeks**. Seasonal flu's are usually directly responsible for travel bans and for locking down major cities that house millions of people, right? An important follow up that the media never seems to make when reporting flu statistics is to add to the misleading concept that getting immunized against the flu is a binary works/doesn't work scenario. You can make that statement if you are only discussing the ability of the vaccine to prevent infection against the circulating seasonal strains. However having a high circulating anti-influenza "non-matching" serum titer, which you will have if you are immunized, will still very likely offer you protection in the form of less severe symptoms and duration of illness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Jaraxxus said: Is there some threshold that determines what is and what is not a pandemic? DuckDuckGo.com is your friend. This virus appears to have a 2.2% death rate. That’s much less than the usual influenzas that appear every year. The flu kills mostly the very young, the very old, and those with compromised immune systems. The h1n1 viral pandemic by contrast infected people of all ages and gave a much higher percentage of pneumonia than ordinary flus do. It’s also more likely than you die from the pneumonia. It’s not clear yet what the age distribution stats are. The B word about this virus is that it’s new therefore no one has immunity, so it has the potential to infect a lot more people worldwide than a “normal” flu. As @BillsFanNC just said above, everyone has some protection from the regular flus even if you don’t get a flu vaccine. It’s called the “herd effect.” There is no herd effect for this virus as it’s new. Next year, maybe. Purell does NOTHING to stop these viruses. Everyone needs to wash their hands regularly for 15 seconds scrubbing vigorously with SOAP and 110 degree water. Then dry them with a single use device (paper towel or air dryer). DON’T touch your face or lips or you can inject yourself with the virus if your hands or fingers have picked it up from surface contact. Don’t travel to China. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Nanker said: DuckDuckGo.com is your friend. It it a better friend than google? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, bbb said: It it a better friend than google? Yes. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 USA TODAY COLUMN: The coronavirus has killed hundreds, but is China giving us the full picture? . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 hours ago, bbb said: It it a better friend than google? Absolutely! They don't track your surfing. Google lives to sell your data to its advertisers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 CORONAVIRUS UPDATE: Coronavirus cases outside China may be ‘tip of the iceberg’ – WHO. Coronavirus’ ‘case-fatality rate’ could range from 1% up to 18%. Coronavirus in Singapore: Of the 45 cases so far, local cases exceed imported ones. Coronavirus kills 97 in the deadliest day of the outbreak. Inflation in China is running rampant because of the coronavirus. Nissan to temporarily halt production at Japan factory due to coronavirus – Nikkei. Coronavirus causing Apple supply chain disruptions. LPGA cancels 2 Asian golf tournaments due to coronavirus. Coronavirus breakthrough could help curb spread of the virus. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Nanker said: DuckDuckGo.com is your friend. 2 hours ago, bbb said: It it a better friend than google? 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Yes. But are they as good a friend as pornhub? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Will the mayor of Wuhan come to America and enter the Democrat primaries? He might have a better chance to stay alive if he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 This thing has killed what? 200 people over the course of a month. Mortality rate roughly 3 percent, which I don't buy because that's based on confirmed cases and God knows how many people had the virus, but were never diagnosed. There won't be any doubt when a true threat emerges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Nanker said: Will the mayor of Wuhan come to America and enter the Democrat primaries? He might have a better chance to stay alive if he does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 4 hours ago, /dev/null said: But are they as good a friend as pornhub? ?♀️ I’ve never been on a pr0n site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 15 hours ago, Nanker said: DuckDuckGo.com is your friend. This virus appears to have a 2.2% death rate. That’s much less than the usual influenzas that appear every year. The flu kills mostly the very young, the very old, and those with compromised immune systems. The h1n1 viral pandemic by contrast infected people of all ages and gave a much higher percentage of pneumonia than ordinary flus do. It’s also more likely than you die from the pneumonia. It’s not clear yet what the age distribution stats are. The B word about this virus is that it’s new therefore no one has immunity, so it has the potential to infect a lot more people worldwide than a “normal” flu. As @BillsFanNC just said above, everyone has some protection from the regular flus even if you don’t get a flu vaccine. It’s called the “herd effect.” There is no herd effect for this virus as it’s new. Next year, maybe. Purell does NOTHING to stop these viruses. Everyone needs to wash their hands regularly for 15 seconds scrubbing vigorously with SOAP and 110 degree water. Then dry them with a single use device (paper towel or air dryer). DON’T touch your face or lips or you can inject yourself with the virus if your hands or fingers have picked it up from surface contact. Don’t travel to China. this is not correct. The death rate of seasonal flu is very low. Some 20-30 times less than this novel coronavirus. Not to mention it has so many parallels to 1918 Spanish Flu... Just had two trade shows cancelled in India and China... pretty serious *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 4% for regular flu. According to the CDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Why did China lock down so many people if this isn’t serious? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Bakin said: this is not correct. The death rate of seasonal flu is very low. Some 20-30 times less than this novel coronavirus. Not to mention it has so many parallels to 1918 Spanish Flu... Just had two trade shows cancelled in India and China... pretty serious *****. What are the parellels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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