Chicken Boo Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 How many of you that scoff at Isaac Bruce, Chris Carter, etc. think that Steve Tasker should be in the Hall of Fame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 18 hours ago, Just Jack said: I checked, this is the list for 2020 https://www.profootballhof.com/15-modern-era-player-finalists-announced/ No Tasker this is absurd. The best Special Teams player (who is not a kicker or punter) of all time not in the Hall. wtf. Instead, lets have the 35th best wr, safety or whoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, RyanC883 said: this is absurd. The best Special Teams player (who is not a kicker or punter) of all time not in the Hall. wtf. Instead, lets have the 35th best wr, safety or whoever. many in my life didn't understand Jim Kelly getting in..... so Tasker doesn't have the love outside most of Bills fans... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, row_33 said: many in my life didn't understand Jim Kelly getting in..... so Tasker doesn't have the love outside most of Bills fans... what other QB took a team to 4 straight SB’s? Not even Brady in a watered down AFC East. Kelly had to go against Marino twice or 3 times every year, also Warren Moon in AFC, Elway, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: what other QB took a team to 4 straight SB’s? Not even Brady in a watered down AFC East. Kelly had to go against Marino twice or 3 times every year, also Warren Moon in AFC, Elway, etc. i'm just reporting and they are 100% serious, i fully disagree of course, he wasn't a superelite QB but he belongs there but there's a lot of downplaying of that 4 SB era, craziness... Edited January 3, 2020 by row_33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: McNabb not performing in a Superbowl is no excuse for TO acting the way he did. TO missed out on first ballot despite his obvious talent and production because he was a bad teammate. Appreciate the correction on Harrison. I agree that is why the voters made him wait. I just disagree with their actions. Was Michael Jordan a good teammate? By many accounts no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: I agree that is why the voters made him wait. I just disagree with their actions. Was Michael Jordan a good teammate? By many accounts no. I don't watch or in fact care about basketball. You Americans had four goes at creating decent sports. You are batting at .250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: I don't watch or in fact care about basketball. You Americans had four goes at creating decent sports. You are batting at .250 basketball hall of fame, did you score 20 points in a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) I'm guessing the following make it: Steve Atwater, Safety – 1989-1998 Denver Broncos, 1999 New York Jets Tony Boselli, Tackle – 1995-2001 Jacksonville Jaguars Isaac Bruce, Wide Receiver – 1994-2007 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 2008-09 San Francisco 49ers LeRoy Butler, Safety – 1990-2001 Green Bay Packers Alan Faneca, Guard – 1998-2007 Pittsburgh Steelers, 2008-09 New York Jets, 2010 Arizona Cardinals Torry Holt, Wide Receiver – 1999-2008 St. Louis Rams, 2009 Jacksonville Jaguars Steve Hutchinson, Guard – 2001-05 Seattle Seahawks, 2006-2011 Minnesota Vikings, 2012 Tennessee Titans Reggie Wayne, Wide Receiver – 2001-2014 Indianapolis Colts 53 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't watch or in fact care about basketball. You Americans had four goes at creating decent sports. You are batting at .250 Naismath was Canadian. Edited January 3, 2020 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Ennjay said: Atwater was a beast and I think is more than deserving. But there's a lot of old-boy-network nonsense in NFL HOF voting that favors visible people. For example, Howie Long was a good DE but to go in as quickly and early as he did? What if he's not on Fox every week? For this reason I expect Lynch to go in and for that other committee to vote for Jimmy Johnson (notwithstanding his crap job in Miami). I'm not saying -- yet -- that Long, Lynch and Johnson may not belong in the HOF. I'm saying they get breaks that other people don't. John Lynch definitely deserves it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 13 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: To be considered one of the top 2 or 3 WRs of your era. You can’t just look at catches. Wayne wasn’t even best WR on his team. Moss, Harrison, Carter, Calvin Johnson, TO, Fitzgerald all were more dominant while their careers overlapped with Bruce, Holt, and Wayne. So Wayne can't be a HOF because every one you mentioned is in or headed to the HOF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) Atwater, Boselli, Polamalu to me should be no brainers. They were all dominant. Hutchinson and Lynch would be my 2nd tier. Anyone else is a toss-up. 3 safeties certainly won’t happen. Edited January 3, 2020 by Locomark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: So Wayne can't be a HOF because every one you mentioned is in or headed to the HOF? Yes that would be my argument. Again a very good player just not HOF worthy compared to his peers in the same era I'm surprised Hutchinson is not mentioned as much as others. He was much better player than Faneca. Played at a very high level for longer than Boselli. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Bryant Young!?!? Come on, man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) Bill Cowher elected to Pro Football Hall of Fame's centennial class Jeff Legwold ESPN Senior Writer Former Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher was formally named the first member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame's centennial class on Saturday, when the Hall's president, David Baker, informed Cowher of his selection to be enshrined during CBS' "NFL Today" program. The Hall's centennial class was selected by a blue-ribbon panel this past week. The remainder of the 15-member class will be revealed Wednesday morning. Cowher, a Crafton, Pennsylvania, native who coached the Steelers for 15 seasons, was visibly moved by the announcement. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28465916/bill-cowher-elected-pro-football-hall-fame-centennial-class Edited January 12, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I am at a complete loss as to why Steve Atwater is not already in the HOF. The man was an all time great. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Congrats, Coach Cowher! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Congrats, Coach Cowher! Yeah but...contrarian, I know...does a "special" centennial class, chosen by a "blue-ribbon panel" cheapen the HOF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Yeah but...contrarian, I know...does a "special" centennial class, chosen by a "blue-ribbon panel" cheapen the HOF? Eye of the beholder, I guess. I was thrilled with the premise initially as it was way past time to right a True Wrong regarding great AFL players who’ve been subbed by the old guard NFL types. But as the whittling down continued through the year, it became very clear our beloved AFLers will never get their due. So yes! NOW that we have a clearer understanding of likely inductees, it’s Same Old, Same Old. Just a bigger and yes, watered down class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said: Eye of the beholder, I guess. I was thrilled with the premise initially as it was way past time to right a True Wrong regarding great AFL players who’ve been subbed by the old guard NFL types. But as the whittling down continued through the year, it became very clear our beloved AFLers will never get their due. So yes! NOW that we have a clearer understanding of likely inductees, it’s Same Old, Same Old. Just a bigger and yes, watered down class. Agree. If they had righted some wrongs nobody would have been unhappy. Maybe this is how Tasker gets in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Cowher seems like a weak selection for HOF. Never really changed the game and one SB win. I think this guarantees cough kin a spot eventually 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: Cowher seems like a weak selection for HOF. Never really changed the game and one SB win. I think this guarantees cough kin a spot eventually 1 more than Marv ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said: 1 more than Marv ? Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:20 PM, Just Jack said: I checked, this is the list for 2020 https://www.profootballhof.com/15-modern-era-player-finalists-announced/ No Tasker Not surprised at all. Special teams are only considered lightly important in the NFL, teams do not sink large resources into Special teams squads, they are primarily made up of backups, and # 4 & 5 WRs, it’s mostly lip service when “all three phases” is mentioned, ( that means STs didn’t suck). It’s the lowest priority of all three phases of the game. Right or wrong, that’s the case. When the budget for STs is on the same level as the O & D it will only then share equal importance. It is what it is. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Eye of the beholder, I guess. I was thrilled with the premise initially as it was way past time to right a True Wrong regarding great AFL players who’ve been subbed by the old guard NFL types. But as the whittling down continued through the year, it became very clear our beloved AFLers will never get their due. So yes! NOW that we have a clearer understanding of likely inductees, it’s Same Old, Same Old. Just a bigger and yes, watered down class. ...but isn't there a Veterans' Committee that reviews guys presented 67 times?......isn't that how Kramer got in (FINALLY)?.....don't see it as a taint..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Congrats, Coach Cowher! Loved how they pranked him with the news in the pre-game show. The look in his eyes when he saw Dave Baker come up behind him on the set was priceless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 How can Boselli be in the finalist list & not Tasker the dude was in the pro bowl a ton of times I don't get how some of the players get there & others like him don't, sure it's nice to be considered but with the resume Tasker has he should have been in a long time ago !! Not that Boselli wasn't a good player he was the only tackle i ever saw stone wall Bruce he always had a hard time against him & that in it self is saying something but i don't think his resume is any where near what Taskers is !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) Polamalu and Atwater should be there and I'd really like to see Sam Mills make it. Edited January 14, 2020 by GreggTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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