Week 17: NJ Jets at Buffalo Bills PostGame

[PolishPrince]

1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said:

Teams still does nothing special- however they did clean up some towards the latter part of the season.

Exactly. For having so many guys on the roster only for ST... I would expect them to be better

1 hour ago, MDH said:

You’re quoting posts from September when I clearly said, “they’ve been very solid since early season.”

Edit: Also, do you know who was inactive for several early season games? Robert Foster. Coincidence?

 

So then why do we need Senorise Perry? Neal is the only gunner I see actually making plays 

[RiotAct]

13 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

It actually reinforced to me, the strides this team made as a unit.  

 

This game reminded me of week 1, only this time around is was 2nd stringers out there and they were unable to scrap out a win. 

 

I believe the first unit would have dominated the Jets today. 

agreed, I think we win comfortably if all of our “A” guys were in there.

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

 

[CSBill]

5 hours ago, deraeler said:

Need to vent. Normally accepting of these decisions, but what an exercise in futility.  What did this team IMPROVE UPON or LEARN today?

Instead, more of the same mistakes were made, injuries sustained to important players, and confidence damaged going into the playoffs.  Another great defensive effort completely wasted.  I get the game had no meaning, but look at the Dolphins win - everyone can beat the Pats but us, and now this casts an even brighter light on how big a Bills win COULD HAVE BEEN in Foxboro.

 

I've seen far better executed high school games.  I feel the team should be refunding tickets to those fans who stuck it out in the crappy weather to watch this.  I only spent the electricity to power my TV and I feel completely ripped off.

 

One and done in the playoffs - you heard it here.

 

This was the worst coaching display I've seen in the McBeane era.  When is Daboll going to learn that just because a play works once it doesn't mean it will work TWICE IN A ROW??!?  What do they do at practice all week, once again Foster is in a COMPLETELY separate stadium from his quarterback.  Your tight ends still don't know how to get out of bounds????  Why is Lee Smith still here??? Because he knows he can commit whatever stupid penalties he wants since there are no other blocking tight ends on the roster.

Ever seen a touch-screen pass? Our own defense must run all over these guys in practice...and yet they apparently can't teach the offense anything.

 

So once JJ Watt crushes Josh - because as we all know, he has to hang onto the football until the DB's get the memo on where the ball is going - now we have zero confidence in Barclay to do anything competent as his replacement and have to endure more questionable o-line configurations due to injury.  Nice.

 

I just can't see ANY benefit to having played this game, they should have forefeit and saved everyone the embarrassment, except oh yah - they would have to refund the tickets.

Well, that explains it.  I wouldn't have minded the injuries if this team could have gone into the playoffs on a positive note with some CONFIDENCE!, or having learned SOMETHING!!

 

Can't blame JOSH and his audibles in this one.  What needs to change this off-season?  IS this all Daboll?   or Sean?  Just incredibly low player IQ? What???!??

 

Take it out on your dog next time. No, that would not be fair to your dog. Just become a Pats fan, you'll fit right in there.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 hours ago, MDH said:

Other than the Pats’ punt block the ST have been solid all year on coverage and return units.  Not sure of this 50/50 stuff

you're referring to.

 

Miami.  Fake punt.  Gave up TD on return.

 

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I would in a heartbeat.  Even for just 1 year.  Barkley's arm is deader than a 45 year old Chad Pennington. 

 

No.  Look at the track record that guy has as a backup.  Every guy he backs up gets hurt or benched.

Every. Guy.

[97bills]

6 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Can someone PLEASE explain why Duke WIlliams is not on the active roster every week over guys like Robert Foster?

They have been all year

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

35 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

 

 

 

something tells me that Bojo had a lot more opportunities this year in order to hit that record. 

[Boatdrinks]

3 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

something tells me that Bojo had a lot more opportunities this year in order to hit that record. 

Well, 85 was a 2-14 season iirc. Not sure about ‘06, but Moorman might have been the MVP of that team. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, Da webster guy said:

Sweeney no but Duke was the 3rd leading receiver in the league today so far, busted a 100 yds with backup qb playing Jets starting defense.

Gotta consider mcKenzie returns kicks and the Duke stays active, as much as I love Roberts.

 

Given we don’t know what Roberts injury is, may not be a choice

3 hours ago, mannc said:

Tre White was an excellent punt returner at LSU.  I’d put him back there if Roberts can’t go.

 

That’s not how you use your best defensive player.   Fortunately, you aren’t making our gameday roster decisions.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

10 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Well, 85 was a 2-14 season iirc. Not sure about ‘06, but Moorman might have been the MVP of that team. 

it’s one of those weird records. You need to play on a team with a mediocre offense basically. If your O is too terrible, then you probably don’t get Many of those pooch-type kicks. 

[Madmax09]

The better QB was waiting for his first playoff game today. Josh will keep improving each year. The one thing he has that Sam doesn’t is that josh is a winner. The dog mentally. Go Bills!!!!

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, RochesterRob said:

  Hopefully, this is the week where Daboll sets personal preferences aside and goes all out for the sake of winning.  Maybe the play today of Yeldon, Duke, Sweeney, etc. has raised Daboll's confidence in them that Daboll will buck his previous preferences in terms of personnel.

 

Well, I don’t know too much about it, but from what I do know, I don’t think there’s a huge amount of room for personal preference of the OC to factor into it.

As I understand it, they grade the guys all the time. They grade their every game snap. They grade their every practice snap.  The position coaches give input to the OC and HC about how the guys in their units are developing.  Someone in a quick-response article pointed out a couple mistakes Williams made - running a route short of the sticks? A drop?  McDermott alluded to Williams needing to work on some fundamentals in his presser.

 

Williams has developed a lot since preseason and even earlier this season.  There is always a “mesh point” where a developing guy is ready to overtake the guy ahead of him and there can be a delay in the coaches pulling the trigger - the entrenched starter gets some benefit of the doubt, and when ST are in play that complicates things.  But I think it’s a bit tin-foil-hat to attribute Duke not playing to some kind of personal preference of Daboll.

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

6 hours ago, Golden*Wheels said:

Maybe pulling an offensive weapon out of nowhere (Duke) is just what we need for a run.

 

O needs somethin, that's for sure.

 

McDermott has been saving him for the Playoffs

 

 

[Da webster guy]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Given we don’t know what Roberts injury is, may not be a choice

 

That’s not how you use your best defensive player.   Fortunately, you aren’t making our gameday roster decisions.

 

Well we used Micah Hyde back there in punt returns already, he's a huge part of our defense.  And lots of other great returners like Rod Woodson, Deion Sanders, Edelman, Tyreek were their teams best skill position player.

 

I expect they'd use Micah again instead of Tredavious, simply because he's so sure handed and taken reps there since camp and in the regular season, but I disagree with you on that comment.   Its a critical position that can swing a game one way or the other.

 

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Given we don’t know what Roberts injury is, may not be a choice

I didn’t realize that Roberts was injured. If he is out, I think that almost automatically would bump Duke to the active roster.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

A lot of hay has been made today about how Yeldon needs to be active. I would like to point out that Yeldon averaged 2.6 YPC on seven carries for 18 yards. Gore averaged 4.3 YPC for 26 yards on six carries, and Gore did all his work up the middle. Motor is the clear starter. Who is Yeldon meant to supplant?

 

I've said it a hundred times but Yeldon should have been cut and Shady kept as the third. Would make us a better team going into the playoffs.

 

 

4 hours ago, mannc said:

Tre White was an excellent punt returner at LSU.  I’d put him back there if Roberts can’t go.

 

i could see this,  put your best guys out there no matter what, its playoff time.

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:

I didn’t realize that Roberts was injured. If he is out, I think that almost automatically would bump Duke to the active roster.

 

He DNP all week this week and was listed as "out" on final injury report.  Injury was listed as "foot".  No details.

 

5 minutes ago, Da webster guy said:

Well we used Micah Hyde back there in punt returns already, he's a huge part of our defense.  And lots of other great returners like Rod Woodson, Deion Sanders, Edelman, Tyreek were their teams best skill position player.

 

I expect they'd use Micah again instead of Tredavious, simply because he's so sure handed and taken reps there since camp and in the regular season, but I disagree with you on that comment.   Its a critical position that can swing a game one way or the other.

 

Fair.  I just recall a lot of concern about using Micah in that role in 2018 and the explanation of acquiring Roberts that we didn't want to keep risking Micah

 

[TigerJ]

4 hours ago, GG said:

 

I wouldn’t call two key players leaving in walking boots, minor.

It would have been better to come out of the game with no injuries, but Levi Wallace is less of a key player than a number of other starters.  It would be very hard to replace Tre White for instance.  Losing Levi leaves the depth a little thin, but there is no reason that Kevin Johnson can come in and a decent job in a starting role.  Same thing with Nsekhe.  I'd love to have him available against Houston, but Ford has been coming on in the last couple weeks.  If he can stay healthy, the line should be OK.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 hours ago, gobills1212 said:

Wasnt a horrible waste as it was nice to see Duke. I feel like he could be a safe posession WR type that will reel balls in. Nice effort on a well placed Allen pass early on and save the bad drop - showed what he brings and I like it bc its a bit different than the other starters. I dont love sitting Foster, but like the idea of what Duke brings to the table so itll be interesting to see how they handle it. Easiest is sit Roberts but they prob feel as though they need his for the return game. Earlier in the year id say sit McKenzie as he didnt show much as an actual WR, but hes come on the last few weeks and has found a nice niche w/his sweeps. Foster is prob most likely to be replaced but even that could be different as if he and Barklet were on the same page and he looked up he may have had a catch and run down the seam for a TD. At the end of the day i guess Duke gets the nod bc he took advantage while foster didnt - but he has shown his wirth in the past. Again, will be interesting to see how it shakes out. I also liked where Sweeney seems to be at. We hadnt seen him in a while and although id imagine Kroft gets the nod as the vet, TS seemed to show progress and potential even if it is for next year.

 Also, i posted this in another thread but since it is likley to be shut down bc its pure nonsense ill post here...

 

Did anyone else hear the idiot named Aaron who called the post game show to say how Barkley really came on as the game progressed and asked if he showed enough to come into camp to compete for the starters job? Because i kid you not, that was a call. As was a guy who actually took time out of his day to wait on hold to ask-get this- why there wasnt a penalty for the Jets players celebrating on the field for Barkleys fumble (which was called a fumble on the field) and wanted the refs to retroactively call a penalty for the celebration once it was deemed an incomplete pass. 

Now granted, its my fault for listening and to be fair its not like a show that takes callers is going to be super high end - but good grief! These are actual living, breathing people who CLAIM to be fans of this team.... and they may be, but they obviously arent embarrassed so ill just be embarrassed for them. Surely the Pats bandwagon can fit a few more tools on board...

 

I, foolishly thought 6 pts would be enough to silence the small crowd of fans who dont understand the concept of a FQB and think Barkley will magically lift the O to 35 point games BUT that wasactly the 2nd call on that subject... the 1st rightfully was hung up on;)

 

Honestly i think they should do away with call ins because they are embarrassing. Get competent hosts who actually know something about football, get the coaching and player sound bites on and use twitter to read select questions that are intelligent and coherent.

 

I think call radio has run its course and its time for more professional programming.

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 hours ago, billsfan_34 said:

Teams still does nothing special- however they did clean up some towards the latter part of the season.

 

getting rid of special teams would solve these problems 

 

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

A few observations about the jets game:

 

1) we ran a ton of play action today— something we seem to not do as much with JA. Seemed like it really opened up the middle of the field with Duke and Sweeney catching balls. Am hoping we see more of that next week.

 

2) Barkley doesn’t have the arm, so he makes

up for it by releasing quicker. This caused all kinds of problems today with receivers not out of their breaks or looking back for the ball yet when the ball was right on them. 

 

3) Not to beat a dead horse, but Duke was like a man among boys out there. He made good catches and got good YAC. He also got himself open, unlike Foster. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

2 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

 

 

 

 

If he can get consistent we will have something here. Now about that kicker ...

 

 

[mannc]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

That’s not how you use your best defensive player.   Fortunately, you aren’t making our gameday roster decisions.

Returning punts is not particularly risky.  For years, Antonio Brown returned punts for the Steelers and OBJ did the same for the Giants.  And of course there’s Deion Sanders and Patrick Peterson, both of whom returned punts for years when they were the also the best defensive players on their respective teams.  Plenty of other examples, too.  

[iinii]

7 hours ago, Do The Reich Thing said:

So... by that logic you’re saying Barkley > Allen?

Nope. I am saying that when Josh matures and plays more like Wilson, Brees, Rodgers.... then he will be a vet and the mentor. Barkley may be a vet but he isn’t a starter. And that is what a veteran looks like to me. No participation trophies, more like the Lombardi trophy.....

[Franco_92]

Bojorquez got that record with only like 2 of those punts being inside the 17 yard line...the dude is a magnet for the 19 it seems like, even if he's punting from the 50. 

This game was so miserable to be at. Not because of the weather - my gear kept me warm and dry. Fans in our section had no freaking clue where their seats were, because they were sloshed, and all decided to pile into my row. There were probably 50% more people in my row than there are seats, and it happened to the three rows in front of and behind me too, probably people that were on the entire wrong side of the 300s anyway. None of them spent a lick of time focusing on the game, just drunkenly shouting at each other, standing on the benches, faced away from the field, so that we all had to stand the whole game to see over them. Sitting wasn't an option, because they didn't want to get their jeans wet, because all they wore/brought to the stadium for the 45 degree downpour day were jeans and a sweatshirt. Guys next to us were getting stumbled into and beer spilled on them all game. There weren't enough empty seats for my group of 4 to move until the 3rd quarter was just about over. Just a thoroughly miserable time because of a bunch of clowns. 

[Chandler#81]

8 hours ago, TwistofFate said:

He did suck, but keep things in perspective.  He's with a team of 2s playing against 1s, who actually wanted to win. 

My perspective has been that Barkley isn’t worthy of an NFL job. It stems from college through 3 pro teams to today. No moxy, no creativity, no awareness. I hope we’re done with him this offseason.

8 hours ago, deraeler said:

Need to vent. Normally accepting of these decisions, but what an exercise in futility.  What did this team IMPROVE UPON or LEARN today?

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Oh yeah! I can see you’re gonna be a fine contributor here! I have a keen eye for new talent and you, my friend, have what it takes to be a game changer here. 

This said, surviving here past 2019 will be a huge hurdle for you..

 

8 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I still think Matt has a chance to stick

 

I dont take a lot of stock in today's game because our OL was in shambles........and he provides that "mentor QB"that McDermott likes.

 

But make no mistake.....if Josh goes down...we are doomed

You think he sticks, but we’re doomed if he plays?? 

Thanks. I was going to take you to task on this point, but Dr. Jekyll foiled your Mr. Hyde..

6 hours ago, PolishPrince said:

Then let Hyde fair catch again. We essentially have 4 gimmick players. 1 returner only. 2x gunner only in Perry and Foster, and McKenzie only used on sweeps and faking a sweep.... not to mention we also have DiMarco who plays like 10 snaps at most a game (but is special teams ace), and a pure blocking TE in Smith. With all of our special teams ace's I wonder why our ST still has such poor days. Its like 50-50 if they are going to be fantastic, or crap.

ST penalties are way down this year. Still no pressure on kickers but few teams do. I think it’s mediocre to fair kickers who inevitably give our overall STs a bad name. Still not a fan of Bojorwhichamagig nor Hoosegow.

4 hours ago, GG said:

 Tiny moral victory is that Jets dropped 2 spots in draft order to No. 11.  Sadly they have the weakest SoS of the 7-9 teams, and didn’t drop into the mid round.

I’ll take 11 for them. It means they’ll likely package up way to many picks to move up for a suspect player in the top 5. Very Jetsy

3 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

 

 

 

 

What the tweet fails to recognize is they were barely 30 yard punts. He’s bad and has been from his 1st day here. Not dependable.

1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

I've said it a hundred times but Yeldon should have been cut and Shady kept as the third. Would make us a better team going into the playoffs.

 

 

 

i could see this,  put your best guys out there no matter what, its playoff time.

 

 

Shady’s been benched. He was washed up last year. But don’t truth intervene your narrative.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said:

My perspective has been that Barkley isn’t worthy of an NFL job. It stems from college through 3 pro teams to today. No moxy, no creativity, no awareness. I hope we’re done with him this offseason.

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

 

Oh yeah! I can see you’re gonna be a fine contributor here! I have a keen eye for new talent and you, my friend, have what it takes to be a game changer here. 

This said, surviving here past 2019 will be a huge hurdle for you..

 

You think he sticks, but we’re doomed if he plays?? 

Thanks. I was going to take you to task on this point, but Dr. Jekyll foiled your Mr. Hyde..

ST penalties are way down this year. Still no pressure on kickers but few teams do. I think it’s mediocre to fair kickers who inevitably give our overall STs a bad name. Still not a fan of Bojorwhichamagig nor Hoosegow.

I’ll take 11 for them. It means they’ll likely package up way to many picks to move up for a suspect player in the top 5. Very Jetsy

What the tweet fails to recognize is they were barely 30 yard punts. He’s bad and has been from his 1st day here. Not dependable.

Shady’s been benched. He was washed up last year. But don’t truth intervene your narrative.

 

so you think Yeldon is better than shady ???

[Chandler#81]

4 minutes ago, arcane said:

Bojorquez got that record with only like 2 of those punts being inside the 17 yard line...the dude is a magnet for the 19 it seems like, even if he's punting from the 50. 

This game was so miserable to be at. Not because of the weather - my gear kept me warm and dry. Fans in our section had no freaking clue where their seats were, because they were sloshed, and all decided to pile into my row. There were probably 50% more people in my row than there are seats, and it happened to the three rows in front of and behind me too, probably people that were on the entire wrong side of the 300s anyway. None of them spent a lick of time focusing on the game, just drunkenly shouting at each other, standing on the benches, faced away from the field, so that we all had to stand the whole game to see over them. Sitting wasn't an option, because they didn't want to get their jeans wet, because all they wore/brought to the stadium for the 45 degree downpour day were jeans and a sweatshirt. Guys next to us were getting stumbled into and beer spilled on them all game. There weren't enough empty seats for my group of 4 to move until the 3rd quarter was just about over. Just a thoroughly miserable time because of a bunch of clowns. 

Damn. A game from Hell! Sorry you had to endure that.

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said:

My perspective has been that Barkley isn’t worthy of an NFL job. It stems from college through 3 pro teams to today. No moxy, no creativity, no awareness. I hope we’re done with him this offseason.

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

 

Oh yeah! I can see you’re gonna be a fine contributor here! I have a keen eye for new talent and you, my friend, have what it takes to be a game changer here. 

This said, surviving here past 2019 will be a huge hurdle for you..

 

You think he sticks, but we’re doomed if he plays?? 

Thanks. I was going to take you to task on this point, but Dr. Jekyll foiled your Mr. Hyde..

ST penalties are way down this year. Still no pressure on kickers but few teams do. I think it’s mediocre to fair kickers who inevitably give our overall STs a bad name. Still not a fan of Bojorwhichamagig nor Hoosegow.

I’ll take 11 for them. It means they’ll likely package up way to many picks to move up for a suspect player in the top 5. Very Jetsy

What the tweet fails to recognI ize is they were barely 30 yard punts. He’s bad and has been from his 1st day here. Not dependable.

Shady’s been benched. He was washed up last year. But don’t truth intervene your narrative.

I say this because if your backup has to play any length of time you most certainly are doomed.   I think with the starters and this defense Matt can make pull out 2 wins out of 3 games

[Chandler#81]

Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

so you think Yeldon is better than shady ???

No. But Yeldon was getting the roster spot because McB signed him early and expensively in FA DUE to having seen enough from McCoy. This is pretty clear.

1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

I say this because if your backup has to play any length of time you most certainly are doomed.   I think with the starters and this defense Matt can make pull out 2 wins out of 3 games

I don’t. At all.  

[Franco_92]

3 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Damn. A game from Hell! Sorry you had to endure that.

Shoulda just stayed home, but it's only the second one I've been able to go to since 2013, and the first ever with my sister. We'll get to one earlier in the year next season. 

And we're going to Houston to play in the playoffs, so that helped things too!

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Just now, Chandler#81 said:

No. But Yeldon was getting the roster spot because McB signed him early and expensively in FA DUE to having seen enough from McCoy. This is pretty clear.

 

And they made a mistake and thats not my narrative, its just the facts. You know i love McBeane but they arent always right. Bottom line is he could help us more than Yeldon who has been on the bench much longer.

 

 

 

[Chandler#81]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

And they made a mistake and thats not my narrative, its just the facts. You know i love McBeane but they arent always right. Bottom line is he could help us more than Yeldon who has been on the bench much longer.

 

 

 

A mistake to cut McCoy? Far from fact, that’s delusional. McB got everything out of Shady they could, while not being one of ‘their guys’ and a fast falling career. We’ll agree to disagree here. 

 

PS I’m no fan of Yeldon either, but he and Lee Smith were very quick FA additions -specifically to address vets McCoy & Clay who they didn’t believe in.

[eball]

My only "hot" take here is that the Jets' starters couldn't put up more than 13 pts against Buffalo backups and were actually outgained for the game.

[CNYfan]

I thought 94 had a nice game.  

 

Back-up QB is a need; do we need a Vet with Josh going into his 3rd year, or can we go to a developmental asset?

 

The Duke stuff is overblown I think, he dropped a pass, or two, and looked slow.   

 

Neal played fairly well, I thought.

 

Houston

[RiotAct]

8 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Honestly i think they should do away with call ins because they are embarrassing. Get competent hosts who actually know something about football, get the coaching and player sound bites on and use twitter to read select questions that are intelligent and coherent.

 

I think call radio has run its course and its time for more professional programming.

 

 

hey they’re just doing what the cruise ships do now (except for the luxury lines): use the customers as entertainment!

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Tough to draw a lot of conclusions from what was essentially a glorified exhibition game (which many here wanted exactly that, fwiw), that still took its toll injury wise unfortunately. Coaches have their work cut out this week and Daboll especially needs to step up. 

[RochesterRob]

10 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Well, I don’t know too much about it, but from what I do know, I don’t think there’s a huge amount of room for personal preference of the OC to factor into it.

As I understand it, they grade the guys all the time. They grade their every game snap. They grade their every practice snap.  The position coaches give input to the OC and HC about how the guys in their units are developing.  Someone in a quick-response article pointed out a couple mistakes Williams made - running a route short of the sticks? A drop?  McDermott alluded to Williams needing to work on some fundamentals in his presser.

 

Williams has developed a lot since preseason and even earlier this season.  There is always a “mesh point” where a developing guy is ready to overtake the guy ahead of him and there can be a delay in the coaches pulling the trigger - the entrenched starter gets some benefit of the doubt, and when ST are in play that complicates things.  But I think it’s a bit tin-foil-hat to attribute Duke not playing to some kind of personal preference of Daboll.

 

 

  I look at coaches like school teachers of which many coached a sport.  They all have human biases which influences their decisions.  Does Daboll give preference to one player that clearly grades inferior to another player?  Most likely not.  But I would imagine in most situations that players probably grade closer to one another than we think which opens the door to personal preferences.  I'd like to think that Joe Fan can readily see the difference between two athletes but he does not spend the up close time to watch them in practice and the film room.

[CardinalScotts]

2 hours ago, CNYfan said:

I thought 94 had a nice game.  

 

Back-up QB is a need; do we need a Vet with Josh going into his 3rd year, or can we go to a developmental asset?

 

The Duke stuff is overblown I think, he dropped a pass, or two, and looked slow.   

 

Neal played fairly well, I thought.

 

Houston

we lead the league in drops and Duke hasn't been playing

Duke also broke a tackle - the last time 19-10-15 has done that ?   hasn't been this year

Barkely is fine if needed....with back up all over in the pouring rain and not having played for 17 weeks hard to jump out there and look sharp. What was the practice rep break down? Josh did start

Corey Liuget has been a great signing looks a lot like the Phillips grab

Edited December 30, 2019 by CardinalScotts