Injuries to starters this Sunday

[Putin]

30 minutes ago, thurst44 said:

In his eyes, it may not be so "meaningless." I suspect he values going into the playoffs on a strong win (as opposed to a painful loss) is worth taking a chance on injuries. The philosophy -- at least my stab at a guess at it -- is that they'll have two more weeks to get to the point where they can potentially beat a Ravens and Patriots on the road. It's a long shot, but sometimes talented teams get hot at the right time. I've lived in NYC area since college and have seen the Giants pull that trick off twice. 

 

I like the move, but, yes, if Allen is hurt in this game, it will be hard to defend in retrospect.

Your making some valid points , but at the end of the day  all that matters is having our starters on the field in Houston , we can agree on that right ??  

 

 

[Captain Hindsight]

We've seen guys injured by slippery mats. I refuse to play scared and its not like they couldnt use a tune up game against a bad jets team

[Putin]

16 minutes ago, brianb386 said:

I am with McDermott on this one. I don't want a week off after a loss going into the playoffs. I want our starters to play long enough to get some good things going and build momentum.

So it’s a must win game then ? Since we don’t want to be going in to the playoffs after a loss ?

[row_33]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

blame Gregg for it. 
 

and then I blame YOU 

 

jinx threads are bad juju

Oh yes, maybe a bounty on Josh

[Just Joshin']

What about the chance of injury driving to the stadium?  This is a risk that must be mitigated.  Keep the key players home!

[Putin]

Just now, Just Joshin' said:

What about the chance of injury driving to the stadium?  This is a risk that must be mitigated.  Keep the key players home!

How old are you ?

[row_33]

16 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

We've seen guys injured by slippery mats. I refuse to play scared and its not like they couldnt use a tune up game against a bad jets team

read a few studies on the high number of knee injuries in football for WR simply running patterns in practice 

[IDBillzFan]

Only a Bills fan can finish Christmas dinner and start a thread to determine who they need to blame for something that may not even happen.

 

When you're first instinct is to assign blame, do yourself a favor and ignore your instincts.

[Beast]

15 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I just can’t see any positive that comes out of any starter playing. You aren’t going to be able to build on anything against that team. All that can happen is bad IMO. It’s truly senseless. We are in the best spot that we have been in for 20 years. Why risk something dumb? It’s rhetorical. There’s no actual answer.

 

There aren't enough players on the team to bench every starter. You know that, right?

 

Not to mention, players get tired and substitute packages.

Edited December 26, 2019 by Binghamton Beast

[Jobot]

It's football.  People get hurt.  It looks like the offense needs more game reps to make improvements necessary for a playoff run more than it would benefit the team to rest.  You can't have it both ways.

[Clemfield2622]

I do not trust the starters being out there as long as Henry Anderson is too.

 

Let us not forget

 

 

Edited December 26, 2019 by Clemfield2622

[row_33]

My sense of crushing impending doom when things seem good with the Bills will not abate until the game is over....  

 

 

[brianb386]

35 minutes ago, Putin said:

So it’s a must win game then ? Since we don’t want to be going in to the playoffs after a loss ?

I wouldn't say must win, but I feel it is important to fo into the playoffs with momentum. If the starters leave the game after a couple scoring drives but the Jets starters beat our backups, I think that is better than our starters resting after the loss to New England.

[PetermansRedemption]

14 minutes ago, Clemfield2622 said:

I do not trust the starters being out there as long as Henry Anderson is too.

 

Let us not forget

 

 

“Let me crawl 4 feet and dive into the back of the guys legs” such an idiot. Joke of a league when fans can find things like these yet the league can’t, or won’t do anything about it. 

[Just Joshin']

38 minutes ago, Putin said:

How old are you ?

I will use the  sarcasm font next time.

[Rocbillsfan1]

Brown Beasley Morse Allen and Singletary should be sat. They have nothing to prove or accomplish in 1 regular season game against the jets. There isn’t anything that is going to magically make them better for playing this game to get ready for the playoffs. 

 

White edmunds Hyde should be inactive for the defense possibly a few more if possible Hughes? Phillips? This has to be the dumbest move by this coach yet. 

[Putin]

33 minutes ago, brianb386 said:

I wouldn't say must win, but I feel it is important to fo into the playoffs with momentum. If the starters leave the game after a couple scoring drives but the Jets starters beat our backups, I think that is better than our starters resting after the loss to New England.

So what your saying they basically want to get the ( bad taste / loss to pats******) out of their mouth with couple of positive drives against the Jets would do that ? 

 

Edited December 26, 2019 by Putin

[brianb386]

34 minutes ago, Putin said:

So what your saying they basically want to get the ( bad taste / loss to pats******) out of their mouth with couple of positive drives against the Jets would do that ? 

 

I think it would help

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said:

 

There aren't enough players on the team to bench every starter. You know that, right?

 

Not to mention, players get tired and substitute packages.

There is though. You know that right?

[Beast]

1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

There is though. You know that right?

 

No, there isn't. At all. 
 

Why don't you list for me every player, and the positions they will play throughout the game, and do not include any starters in it.

 

Don't forget to include Special Teams, Nickle and Dime packages, Short yardage formations, etc, and, like I said, include substitution for tired players.

 

Simply put, it can't be done. To even insinuate that no starters should play is ignorant to what goes during the game.

[Royale with Cheese]

I just don’t think our offense is strong enough to skip a week.  I would play the starters for at least a half.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

12 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said:

 

No, there isn't. At all. 
 

Why don't you list for me every player, and the positions they will play throughout the game, and do not include any starters in it.

 

Don't forget to include Special Teams, Nickle and Dime packages, Short yardage formations, etc, and, like I said, include substitution for tired players.

 

Simply put, it can't be done. To even insinuate that no starters should play is ignorant to what goes during the game.

You know that’s not what anyone’s saying. Every starter of the 22 guys on offense and defense is what we are talking about. Which is why I have said any starter that matters several times. And there are enough guys to do that.

Edited December 26, 2019 by Brianmoorman4jesus

[ColoradoBills]

FFS you can't sit all the starters.  There are only 9 OL and 5 LBs.

Take 4 away from the DL and the other 5 have to play the full game with one substitution?

 

Let McDermott do what he is going to do.  The depth will play a lot more snaps and some starting vets won't play but 

a few snaps.

 

LOL, "nothing exceeds like excess" on this board sometimes.

[Beast]

2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

You know that’s not what anyone’s saying. Every starter of the 22 guys on offense and defense is what we are talking about. Which is why I have said any starter that matters several times. And there are enough guys to do that.

There are NOT enough guys to do this. My god.....it has NEVER happened.  Even in the Bills hay day, they rested a handful of guys and that was it because there are not enough players on an active roster to rest 22 players.

[Rocbillsfan1]

2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I just don’t think our offense is strong enough to skip a week.  I would play the starters for at least a half.

But then who plays the second half? You can only have so many active players. I would activate 5 to 6 people on offense and 5 to 6 on defense mainly the ones I listed above. It is pure lunacy to put a couple of your main starters on the field for a couple of series. That is pure coach speak bs that somehow this one week of prep is going to give them that extra training they need for he playoffs. There is zero evidence to support that this is somehow going to make everything better in the playoff game. And if they are calling a vanilla gameplan anyways and don’t do well is that going to decrease their confidence for next week? You don’t risk playing your top talent, it’s just stupid. 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

the obvious choice is obvious.

 

these are not seasoned vets. they are a young inexperienced team that needs all the experience and momentum they can get going into the postseason.

 

that said, the risk of injury is there in this game as it is in any game that they play. no HC should be the blame of injury from a game these young men are paid to play. I support his decision to play the starters.

 

 

 

[Doc Brown]

Oh.  It will be blamed on McDermott.  If White gets significantly injured against the Jets and then Hopkins has a monster game to beat us fans won't be forgiving.

[Royale with Cheese]

20 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said:

But then who plays the second half? You can only have so many active players. I would activate 5 to 6 people on offense and 5 to 6 on defense mainly the ones I listed above. It is pure lunacy to put a couple of your main starters on the field for a couple of series. That is pure coach speak bs that somehow this one week of prep is going to give them that extra training they need for he playoffs. There is zero evidence to support that this is somehow going to make everything better in the playoff game. And if they are calling a vanilla gameplan anyways and don’t do well is that going to decrease their confidence for next week? You don’t risk playing your top talent, it’s just stupid. 

New England plays their players even when they clinch....

[C.Biscuit97]

You can’t be scared.  The pats would play 80 year old Brady in a meaningless week 17 game. Allen and the offense could use the work.  It’s kinda amazing how healthy they have been (knocking on wood).  Can’t fault anyone if something fluky happens.  

[Rocbillsfan1]

9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

New England plays their players even when they clinch....

Maybe they are playing for a 1 or 2 seed which means a bye and home playoffs games but I would love an example when there is no meaning to the outcome that they left Brady to play a whole game. 

Just now, C.Biscuit97 said:

You can’t be scared.  The pats would play 80 year old Brady in a meaningless week 17 game. Allen and the offense could use the work.  It’s kinda amazing how healthy they have been (knocking on wood).  Can’t fault anyone if something fluky happens.  

Yes you can it’s called the coach. 

[BillsfaninSB]

21 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

New England plays their players even when they clinch....

they have something to play for.   A loss and a win by KC puts them at #3.  That’s practically a wild card spot. 

[C.Biscuit97]

2 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said:

they have something to play for.   A loss and a win by KC puts them at #3.  That’s practically a wild card spot. 

They do it even when they have the one seed clinched.  

[Gugny]

2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

New England plays their players even when they clinch....

 

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

They do it even when they have the one seed clinched.  

 

New England's opponents are also not allowed to hit New England players.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

9 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said:

 

No, there isn't. At all. 
 

Why don't you list for me every player, and the positions they will play throughout the game, and do not include any starters in it.

 

Don't forget to include Special Teams, Nickle and Dime packages, Short yardage formations, etc, and, like I said, include substitution for tired players.

 

Simply put, it can't be done. To even insinuate that no starters should play is ignorant to what goes during the game.

Offense

5

22/20/32

82

16

18-slot

77 they split neither is a starter

71

61 

65

70 they split neither is a starter

89

85 2 TE sets

 

defense 

92

96

94

90 or 93 whichever you consider 

51

52

57- in 4-3

29

33

28

31

46 in nickel move 33 inside 

I don’t want them to literally bench every starter. I want the 10-15 guys that we absolutely need in the playoffs to sit in a meaningless game. And there are things you can do to add a guy from the ps here and there to actually do this if it was necessary. I just wanted to put it out there that on a technicality with the RT situation it could be done. Even though I really was talking about all the main players. The only actual starting spot of the 22 where you would run into a numbers issue would be that other tackle. It wasn’t really a big deal I just couldn’t not answer or try to do it when you asked.