Phil The Thrill Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 15 hours ago, Process said: Bills game plan today was to not blitz Brady and it really exposed how desperate this team is for pass rushers along the DL. Brady had all day all game. Ideally we will have two new starters next year. What do we do with the guys we have and who do we get? Hughes- don't see a reason to cut or trade him. Keep him as a vet situational player but his days as a starter should be over. Lawson- really hope the bills don't re sign him. He's been solid this year no doubt, but it's also the first year he's really even been noticeable. In a contract year hmm? And right now our d line is full of "solid" guys, our problem is we have no real impact players. He's going to get overpaid, use the money to go out and get some stud playermakers that will really make a difference. Murphy- he has to go, right? Does anyone have a case for not cutting him? He's completely useless out there. If Ngakoue makes it to FA he should be our #1 target. We have the cap space, get him. We also need to take a guy rounds 1/2 of the draft. DE is an interesting position. The FA class at DE is pretty strong, so even if Shaq does walk, there will be options to replace him. I don’t know if I see this team giving Yannick a huge deal. I think we might be more likely to draft at the position or sign a few players in FA like they did at OL this season. I think we certainly need to get out of the Murphy contract and Hughes becomes interesting....because like McCoy this year, I can see them moving on from him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I’m not sold on Lawson. Not that he can’t play. Just whether or not he is a process guy this year because it’s his contract year!! I’ll leave it to McDermott!! Murphy, Hughes and Alexander need replacing IMO! Alexander breaks my heart because he’s my kind of player but I remember thinking that his level of play has suffered recently or he is injured?! He’s not making many plays of late. Hughes could be used in situational packages for another year? We need fresh blood but guys who don’t wait until their 5th year to show it!! And that goes for Phillips too!! Ya gotta love Ed Oliver and I think in time he would be very good at DE for a handful of plays!! He has the skillset for it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampton Josh fan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Shaq is a must resign. He plays well against the rush and numerous pressures with 6 sacks. Hughes has given us great play but he must go with his cap commitment. Draft a good edge rusher and get a lower tier free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 16 hours ago, The Jokeman said: My worry is Shaq disappears after getting a pay raise. He's been solid this year but still a depth guy. Yet also have concerns with position long term which makes me look to the draft compared to free agency. All of our DE except rookie Johnson are in decline. Time to do cuts, save $$ and bring in younger veterans, a high calibre stud, a 1st round pick or take a couple of shots 4th round or lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 We could use a Bosa - Watt level talent. Any more brothers coming out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 16 hours ago, NewEra said: OL imo. Our OL is much better than last year. Not hard to do when you have a bottom 2 OL. I think we’re middle of the pack or maybe bottom 1/3 of the league when we have Ford playing RT. Nsekhe plays fine when healthy. He’s 33+ with bad knees. I don’t think he can be counted on next year as anything more than a swing tackle. Ford should be at guard. RT is #1 (followed by WR) on my biggest needs list. Building a dominant OL for JA would be my #1 goal. Giving JA another WR (over 6’1) number 2. Watch the last two offensive plays. Ford gets blown by on both plays. He’ll improve, but his foot speed is clearly lacking. Dawkins literally trips over his own feet on the 4th down play. OL couldn’t be counted on when JA needed him most Between Shaq and Murphy, I think one will return and we’ll draft a DE in rd 1 or 2. https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2019/08/28/2020-nfl-draft-offensive-tackle-prospects-to-watch-for-in-2019/ Here are 10 possible offensive tackles who have the size and the skill to maybe add to the offensive line. I think that once you are past the top 15 picks, drafting a OT is starting to become more of a crap shoot. Most will be adequate, a few will flame out and a few will be really good. Use the 1st round pick on WR or DE and upgrade the OL with the second round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Edge rusher and WR are the two biggest needs. Hughes is at the end, and Murphy stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 16 hours ago, HOUSE said: A loss to the Patriots can make people crazy. For real! All these hot takes are priceless! Its like “cut all the defensive ends!” ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 3 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said: All of our DE except rookie Johnson are in decline. Time to do cuts, save $$ and bring in younger veterans, a high calibre stud, a 1st round pick or take a couple of shots 4th round or lower. We can be short sited though as we also have concerns at RB, depth on the O-line and arguably at LB. As yes we need to improve for 2020 want to be able to be in a position to be at the best of the AFC East in 2021 and beyond. I'm all for bringing a mid priced ticket to replace LorAx and improve our WRs after Brown and Beasley and maybe a better #2 CB yet we have to remember we also need to reup core guys like Hyde/Poyer/White/Milano too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Hughes has been dealing with a groin injury for the better part of the year & they have him signed to a extension i don't see him going anywhere . I think the rookie Daryl Johnson can be a better player if he can up his weight & strength a bit which he should be able to & he can take Shaqs spot at DE seeing as he's a McD pick . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Hughes has a $9.5M cap hit in 2020. Hughes Dead Money if he is cut is $10.85M. There is no chance he will be cut. If traded Hughes Dead Money is $4.2M and for $5.3M (2020 cost) for the team trading for him there is a chance a trade could happen but unlikely IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Has Clowney been extended yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 12:18 AM, Process said: Bills game plan today was to not blitz Brady and it really exposed how desperate this team is for pass rushers along the DL. Brady had all day all game. Ideally we will have two new starters next year. What do we do with the guys we have and who do we get? Hughes- don't see a reason to cut or trade him. Keep him as a vet situational player but his days as a starter should be over. Lawson- really hope the bills don't re sign him. He's been solid this year no doubt, but it's also the first year he's really even been noticeable. In a contract year hmm? And right now our d line is full of "solid" guys, our problem is we have no real impact players. He's going to get overpaid, use the money to go out and get some stud playermakers that will really make a difference. Murphy- he has to go, right? Does anyone have a case for not cutting him? He's completely useless out there. If Ngakoue makes it to FA he should be our #1 target. We have the cap space, get him. We also need to take a guy rounds 1/2 of the draft. I agree, at least 2 new pass rushers are needed, 1 through the draft and 1 through free agency would be ideal. Cut Star Louteleilei and Trent Murphy and do not resign Shaq Lawson. Ngakoue should definitely be a target and most likely will be but unfortunately he will command a kings ransom which we could pay and probably should if we cut those other 2. A tall WR with solid hands should also be at the top of the list as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 5:16 AM, BillsinChesterSprings said: With the bounty of talent the Bills have drafted in the last 3 drafts, I would not hesitate to trade to the GMEN 2# 1's and a 2nd for the the #2 overall this year and draft Chase Young. Chase is a generational talent and will be on rookie contract for 4 years. I don’t think that gets us to #2 overall. I agree our drafting has been great, steady and consistent. I think we should stick to that process one more year. That would include DE and WR this year. That would pretty much address every position on our team in the last 3-4 drafts with impact players that fit out process and schemes. That would give us a strong base of talent, depth and upside at all positions. Then plug and play through the draft moving forward. Keep up the great drafting. Then the following year and moving forward it would be more flexible to trade up for those types of players. But, not make a habit of it. We have a great blueprint. Let’s rinse and repeat our off seasons. Don’t need to get fancy and make the big splash and win the offseason. JMO On 12/22/2019 at 9:47 AM, whorlnut said: Or the other way around. With how much McD loves defense, I could honestly see a first round round DE followed by a second round WR. Last night was proof. He got the lead and instantly went into conservative mode right after Allen hit Brown on the deep td. Instead of riding that momentum, they went run, run, run, punt on the next series and were content on putting it into the defenses hands. They will draft a DE in the first, which wouldn’t upset me too bad as long as they go offense in the next two rounds. Someone like Gross-Matos would be awesome in this defense. Agree on everything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 11:35 AM, The Jokeman said: My worry is Shaq disappears after getting a pay raise. He's been solid this year but still a depth guy. Yet also have concerns with position long term which makes me look to the draft compared to free agency. Here is my thoughts and Shaq analysis.... - a reach when drafted - drafted for a 3-4 defense - missed training camp his rookie year and first 8 games (approximately) - team had poor management, coaching, leadership - earned playing time and confidence with McD - we have heard from Shaq and Inner circles of the Bills Shaq has learned how to be a professional and prepare as one - now in 4th year performing - one of very few holdovers from previous regime, adapted and grew as a person, player and professional - a late bloomer with the right direction, coaching, health and environment - IMO he can’t be a #1 DE - BUT, is a good #2, very good #3 What is that worth. $8-10 million a year? 4 year deal front loaded. No brainer. $12 million plus and I am not sure the value. We do have cap room now to front load. Hughes is fine. Cut Murphy. Draft a pass rusher. Sign Shaq. Franchise Philips if we can’t sign him. If we can sign him....similar deal as Shaq. Less years on Phillips the better with Harrison and Oliver. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Can we give the Johnson kid a go this weekend versus the JETS. He may prove to be a Diamond in the rough. He had a great preseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Do The Reich Thing said: Has Clowney been extended yet? What? Please tell me this is a joke. Clowney has 3 sacks this year. You know who else has 3 sacks and more tackles than the clown? Yeah Trent Murphy does. Please tell me you don’t want to cut Murphy and let Shaq walk to pay clowney 100 million because you’ve heard his name before. He played a lot of healthy snaps for Seattle earlier this year before being in his current banged up status as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 12:52 AM, LB48 said: The PATS made Murphy play the fool today. How many times did they give him an inside rushing lane and then run to where he was supposed to be? He took the bait every time and left our LB's trying to cover for him. Murphy- another lousy tackler too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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