Do the "look at me" actions of Shaq and Oliver bother you?

[Formerly Allan in MD]

9 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

We are 9-3

Can't get enough of that.

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

Thats alot of trash talk for a .5 sack

did ANY of the dancing mocking hurt the Bills on the field?

[Bronxbomber21]

4 minutes ago, bigK14094 said:

Wasn't it Marv Levy who told the team that when they scored a touchdown  (or a sack)...."Try and look like you have been there before"   I think that is good guidance.   All those gestures are not going to get you paid more.  Your play gets you paid, not your antics.

The didnt look like a the were part of a process after the game they looked like a bunch of LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME individuals

[RocCityRoller]

My issues weren't with the fun mimicry like the Zeke feed me/ first down mock, and I thought Tre White's Dak dance was hilarious.

 

Don't get a taunting penalty, fine. Show some emotion Great!

 

But the DLs yelling out to the fans and mocking them, and the shout out that 'this was why Dak doesn't get deserve to get paid' was low class and pathetic.

 

I love the juice and energy Phillips/ Lawson and now Oliver seems to be feeding on. But after the fun imitations it started getting out of hand.

[DRA3196]

I compare their antics to that of Kelly when winning the 4th AFC Championship said "WE'RE BAAACK".

Doesn't bother me at all. Since the SB XXV loss to the Giants, we have never been liked by the media or the league. It's a love/hate relationship with everyone associated with the league or teams within the league. Any football fan, commentator, broadcaster, talking head, football fan have NEVER had anything good to say about anything regarding the Bills. Throughout the league Bill Polian was thought to be a joke as a GM til he went to Carolina built that franchise then moved on to Indianapolis and helped the Colts build a winner with Peyton Manning.

"Same ol' Bills" has been a montra within the NFL since Scott Norwood went "wide right".

 

Every chance we get to laugh at another opponent or make fun of, I am all for it. We have talent and we have coaching to go along with the best fanbase in the league. It's time that the Bills made noise within the league. If we hurt a few feelings along the way......so what. 

Edited November 30, 2019 by DRA3196

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Bronxbomber21 said:

The didnt look like a the were part of a process after the game they looked like a bunch of LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME individuals

And none of it matters except to the Portion of the fan base that doesn’t like it. 

1 minute ago, RocCityRoller said:

My issues weren't with the fun mimicry like the Zeke feed me/ first down mock, and I thought Tre White's Dak dance was hilarious.

 

Don't get a taunting penalty, fine. Show some emotion Great!

 

But the DLs yelling out to the fans and mocking them, and the shout out that 'this was why Dak doesn't get deserve to get paid' was low class and pathetic.

 

I love the juice and energy Phillips/ Lawson and now Oliver seems to be feeding on. But after the fun imitations it started getting out of hand.

you mean they waived to the most Arrogant Fan base in Sports. After being called frauds. Cry me a river 

[Captain_Quint]

1 hour ago, DC Tom said:

 

If only they were 4-8, then we wouldn't have to deal with this *****.  Winning only hurts the franchise.

Further proof that nothing good happens when you beat a NFC team.

[Buffalo Junction]

35 minutes ago, StHustle said:

 

Do you consider Josh Allen's celebrations to be "look-at-me" or are his a-okay?

They’re okay because Allen is having the time of his life. 

[Bronxbomber21]

49 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

just embarrassed a Cowboys OL that is talked about as one of the best in the league. In their house. After being told they are frauds. 
 

jesus people it is entertainment 

 

aaron Darnold dances and talks a ton of trash as well. (All players do)

So what happens if Buffalo gets stumped by the Ravens and they start doing the same #&:; are the Ravens acting low class?

3 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

They’re okay because Allen is having the time of his life. 

Allens is pure emotion not scripted and thought out thats a difference

Edited November 30, 2019 by Bronxbomber21

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Bronxbomber21 said:

So what happens if Buffalo gets stumped by the Ravens and they start doing the same #&:; are the Ravens acting low class?

it is the game. So Nope. Again NONE OF IT MATTERS. Unless it is causing hurt to your team in the form of penalties. Get over it

[That's No Moon]

1 hour ago, PUNT750 said:

It's great these 2 defensive lineman are making big  plays and helping the TEAM win.  Personally, I don't feel the look-at-me celebrations flatter either of them. 

Uhm, nope.  Go watch some Youtube of Bruce Smith and Cornelius Bennett, it makes anything Oliver and Lawson are doing look tame.

[Buffalo Junction]

3 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

Allens is pure emotion not scripted and thought out thats a difference

I was commenting on how the being held overhead by a lineman with his arms out is very “dirty dancing” like... 

[Bronxbomber21]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

it is the game. So Nope. Again NONE OF IT MATTERS. Unless it is causing hurt to your team in the form of penalties. Get over it

Lol im over it just dont be crying when it happens to the Bills because you can bet there will be a thread about it 

[BillsFan692]

5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

it is the game. So Nope. Again NONE OF IT MATTERS. Unless it is causing hurt to your team in the form of penalties. Get over it

Thats like, your opinion man. And you're welcome to have it. Doesn't mean it's right, or a barometer for how "most others" feel. 

There is a fine line between being classless and being competitive. Good spirited competitive celebration should be applauded and supported. Acting like trash and cocky/arrogant isn't exactly what the bills were going for when they rebuilt this team as stated time and time again so I don't really understand your position in trying to defend "any and all actions" outside of the game as "Totally fine".  

I'm not saying explicitly that they have done anything wrong at this point, but I bet the coaching staff is mindful of it.

 

Edited November 30, 2019 by BillsFan692

[Bronxbomber21]

1 minute ago, That's No Moon said:

Uhm, nope.  Go watch some Youtube of Bruce Smith and Cornelius Bennett, it makes anything Oliver and Lawson are doing look tame.

And look at how that ended up 

[MAJBobby]

6 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

So what happens if Buffalo gets stumped by the Ravens and they start doing the same #&:; are the Ravens acting low class?

Allens is pure emotion not scripted and thought out thats a difference

so Allen is OK. Others is look at Me. Got it. 
 

so tell me did you like Allen trying to throw the ball out of the Stadium?

1 minute ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

Lol im over it just dont be crying when it happens to the Bills because you can bet there will be a thread about it 

don’t worry you won’t see me crying. Maybe the same people upset about the Bills doing it will be here crying 

[That's No Moon]

Just now, Bronxbomber21 said:

And look at how that ended up 

Yeah, Super Bowls, Hall of Fame. It was terrible.

[JaCrispy]

12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

did ANY of the dancing mocking hurt the Bills on the field?

Exactly...I guess it’s time to cue the “the fun police”.

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, BillsFan692 said:

Thats like, your opinion man. And you're welcome to have it. Doesn't mean it's right, or a barometer for how "most others" feel. 

There is a fine line between being classless and being competitive. Good spirited competitive celebration should be applauded and supported. Acting like trash and cocky/arrogant isn't exactly what the bills are going for when they rebuilt this team as stated time and time again so I don't really understand your position in trying to defend "any and all actions" outside of the game as "Totally fine". 

 

seems those thinking these are classless are in the minority 

[Warcodered]

38 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Actually I think he's had the trifecta of roughing the passer, unnecessary roughness and unsportsmanlike conduct this year.     Only Bill to have both a RP and a UR.  And I don't think anyone had a hard time seeing him coming in to blast Amari Cooper for his first flag yesterday.   It was blatant.  If you are talking about the other penalty which was hands to the face that was a bad call but it was totally unnecessary for him to put his hands on Dak there.  He just gets fired up and can't reign it in.   Like in the Dolphins game last year when his taunting penalty set up the Dolphins winning TD.   

 

 

He hasn't been that badly penalized this year and I don't know if you know this but guys that get to the QB a lot tend to get some of those it's hard to avoid with how protected QBs are now.

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

And look at how that ended up 

4 straight SB and HOF jackets. 

2 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said:

Thats like, your opinion man. And you're welcome to have it. Doesn't mean it's right, or a barometer for how "most others" feel. 

There is a fine line between being classless and being competitive. Good spirited competitive celebration should be applauded and supported. Acting like trash and cocky/arrogant isn't exactly what the bills were going for when they rebuilt this team as stated time and time again so I don't really understand your position in trying to defend "any and all actions" outside of the game as "Totally fine".  

I'm not saying explicitly that they have done anything wrong at this point, but I bet the coaching staff is mindful of it.

 

and it Continues. Hmmm seems McD is fine with it too

[Buffalo Junction]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

seems those thinking these are classless are in the minority 

I certainly have no problems with it. They haven’t crossed over to trash talking in the media during the week or dancing during a blowout loss. ?‍♂️  They should have fun. They’re getting paid to play a game.... I hope they enjoy it. 

[BillsFan692]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

seems those thinking these are classless are in the minority 

I'm pretty sure that almost everyone agrees with the phrase "It's not about winning or losing, it's about how you play the game."  Nobody likes a showboating ass clown, a cheater, or a sore loser. 

Things matter. To suggest "none of it matters" is really just out there... 

I'm not saying the bills players the OP referenced are any of those things, I am saying it's crazy to think people arn't "mindful of it".

 

[Nick the Greek]

Maybe it’s Zeak who set himself up for it.. doing his dumb little feed me gesture after getting a first down.

 

hes allowed to do it, but we can’t do it back? 

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, BillsFan692 said:

I'm pretty sure that almost everyone agrees with the phrase "It's not about winning or losing, it's about how you play the game."  Nobody likes a showboating ass clown, a cheater, or a sore loser. 

Things matter. To suggest "none of it matters" is really just out there... 

I'm not saying the bills players the OP referenced are any of those things, I am saying it's crazy to think people arn't "mindful of it".

 

If it matters why are they 9-3?  Ooo yeah It doesn’t matter as long as their play backs it up. And it is

Edited November 30, 2019 by MAJBobby

[BillsFan692]

4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

4 straight SB and HOF jackets. 

and it Continues. Hmmm seems McD is fine with it too

I've just noticed this trend developing recently with our team, so I don't think you can say "yet it continues, guess McD is fine with it", it's a developing situation that I am sure at some point McD will have to handle.

Edited November 30, 2019 by BillsFan692

[That's No Moon]

4 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said:

And look at how that ended up 

Here. It's all of Bruce's sacks.  All of them. Tell me if any of this is different from what you are complaining about and remember that at the start of the video Bruce was on a terrible football team.

[MAJBobby]

4 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said:

I've just noticed this trend developing recently with our team, so I don't think you can say "yet it continues, guess McD is fine with it", it's a developing situation that I am sure at some point McD will have to handle.

these celebrations and mocking has been going on all season. Why are you just now noticing it???  Ooo because they are finally showing Bills on Sidelines. 

[Patrick Duffy]

[BillsFan692]

 

8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

these celebrations and mocking has been going on all season. Why are you just now noticing it???  Ooo because they are finally showing Bills on Sidelines. 

There is nothing wrong with celebrating after a big play, there isn't any reason the players can't celebrate.  I haven't seen anything wrong with any of Ed Oliver's celebrations. 

Just in case you forgot your position in this argument is that "NONE OF IT MATTERS": Taking shots at the fans/or personal shots at other players on the opposing team... well that's just trashy *****, sure some players do that around the league, doesn't mean everyone has to be okay with it, or that everyone is okay with it. Certainly doesn't mean "NONE OF IT MATTERS". To some, it matters quite a lot.  Our coaching staff and GM in particular put a great value on how the players conduct themselves both on the field and off.

Again, there are famous quotes like "It's not about winning or losing, but how you play the game" for a reason. But this is probably the most pertinent one, since obviously this stuff does matter: "Be humble in victory and gracious in defeat." Wise words that echo through the decades because apparently this stuff matters after all. 

I just chalk it up like everything else: The Bills are learning how to win. There will be growing pains!
 

Edited November 30, 2019 by BillsFan692

[MAJBobby]

Just now, BillsFan692 said:

 

There is nothing wrong with celebrating after a big play, there isn't any reason the players can't celebrate.  I haven't seen anything wrong with any of Ed Oliver's celebrations. 

Just in case you forgot your position in this argument is that "NONE OF IT MATTERS": Taking shots at the fans/or personal shots at other players on the opposing team... well that's just trashy *****, sure some players do that around the league, doesn't mean everyone has to be okay with it, or that everyone is okay with it. Certainly doesn't mean "NONE OF IT MATTERS". To some, it matters quite a lot. 

Again, there are famous quotes like "It's not about winning or losing, but how you play the game" for a reason. But this is probably the most pertinent one, since obviously this stuff does matter: "Be humble in victory and gracious in defeat." Wise words that echo through the decades because apparently this stuff matters after all. 

 

does any of those quotes change a scoreboard?  A win or loss column?  A trophy case?  
 

once you can show me it does I will agree it matters. 

[That's No Moon]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

does any of those quotes change a scoreboard?  A win or loss column?  A trophy case?  
 

once you can show me it does I will agree it matters. 

and the meek shall inherit the Earth....after the bold whip every one else's behind and make it safe for the meek to poke their heads outside.

[Virgil]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

main question. Are these celebrations hurting the team with penalties?  If the answer is NO you have nothing to complain about 

Call me old (again) or crazy to want my athletes to act in a way I’d want my kid to act on the field.  You can celebrate, have fun, get hyped, and whatever else passionately without being disrespectful.  
 

But again, I’m old and frail so...

[BillsFan692]

1 minute ago, Virgil said:

Call me old (again) or crazy to want my athletes to act in a way I’d want my kid to act on the field.  You can celebrate, have fun, get hyped, and whatever else passionately without being disrespectful.  
 

But again, I’m old and frail so...

At least this time you didn't post a novel -- Just joshin' ya;)

Edited November 30, 2019 by BillsFan692

[Virgil]

36 minutes ago, Paulus said:

I disagree... ***** the Cowboys. 

You do make a compelling argument ?

 

If it were against the Pats, I’d probably support them dragging Brady around the stadium Achilles style 

1 minute ago, BillsFan692 said:

At least this time you didn't post a novel -- Just joshin' ya;)

Are you challenging me?!

 

I’ll add chapters to the next thoughts.  It’ll get real.  ?

[GreggTX]

I don't see that it matters much at all. I just want results. They can dance all they want or not.

[MAJBobby]

5 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Call me old (again) or crazy to want my athletes to act in a way I’d want my kid to act on the field.  You can celebrate, have fun, get hyped, and whatever else passionately without being disrespectful.  
 

But again, I’m old and frail so...

what is disrespectful about waiving to a fan base that declared themselves America’s Team?  What is disrespectful waiving bye to a fan base that called you frauds all week?

 

 

all this from a fan base that loves throwing Dildos on the field?  Loves throwing people thru tables?  Gets so drunk they don’t remember the game

Edited November 30, 2019 by MAJBobby

[McBean]

2 hours ago, PUNT750 said:

It's great these 2 defensive lineman are making big  plays and helping the TEAM win.  Personally, I don't feel the look-at-me celebrations flatter either of them. 

go home. You’re still drunk from last night 

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, Virgil said:

Call me old (again) or crazy to want my athletes to act in a way I’d want my kid to act on the field.  You can celebrate, have fun, get hyped, and whatever else passionately without being disrespectful.  
 

But again, I’m old and frail so...

These aren’t kids though. These are grown men; this is their job. This isn’t a game to them. This is their livelihood. This is how they feed their family. They put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into it. I have no issue with the emotion. 

[MAJBobby]

6 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

and the meek shall inherit the Earth....after the bold whip every one else's behind and make it safe for the meek to poke their heads outside.

what is funny to me is this disrespect talk coming from fans that love that we toss people thru tables and toss dildos on the field.